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2 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said:

Years of mismanagement, poor transfer decisions, back to back relegation fights. 

It's the club's fault that we're not an enticing option to go to anymore. 

Even if you believe this to be true, it’s a pointless observation. Short of a Time Machine, we can do nothing to change our past. 
 

Best to focus on what we can do to improve the club going forward. 

1 hour ago, Hafnia said:

Pretty sure there will be agents/clubs in the know before bobble announced it. 
 

his agent will have bandied him about as soon as our bid was accepted.  That’s their job to get them the best deal. 

Yeah it’s a bit silly to think that other clubs with interest  wouldn’t know.

14 minutes ago, Matt Tiger said:

I really like this kid but given that Chermiti is over the line this doesn't make sense. We have other needs that we should put whatever available resources we have left towards.

Presumably Maupay is gone shortly. Simms wasn’t the solution he might have been. DCL is constantly injured. Not a bad thing to have a couple bites of the apple. While we can’t spend now resources should start to be freed up here going forward so I don’t think it will hinder us too much.

1 hour ago, Palfy said:

Because AC Milan are reportedly interested him. So where if given the option would you choose. I would if him go back to my own country to play European football in a beautiful city with a lovely climate. Just guessing that might be the case with him. 

Depends what his goals are. If someone is ambitious about their career they might choose to play at the highest level in the Premier League. 

4 minutes ago, Matt said:

As a 19 year old, I find it a bit more understandable although I don't condone it. It's the more experienced heads that do that that really pisses me off. 

If he plays and they don’t really want to sell then he’s likely to stay with them. As much as we don’t love to see it it’s an effective tactic and I’m sure it’s encouraged by agents etc..

1 hour ago, AlbanyNYToffee said:

Guess dyche was completely right/serious/honest when he said nothing was imminent. FFS this club is sending me to an early grave. 

Doesn’t sound like this has much to do with the club. 

9 minutes ago, patto said:

Not heard a thing it all sounds too much money to me. 
bobble could be playing it down Fabs normally good. 

The money seems very unrealistic for us unless it’s structured in a way that we know the reigns will be loosened financially when the bulk of the payment is due.

1 hour ago, Hafnia said:

You’d never know.  Some players are too tough for their own good, he never stays down. 

Yep. Also, an injury is an injury. If you cannot perform better than the player behind you then you’re just hurting the team by being out there.

12 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Chelsea forums weren’t particularly positive about Salah. Around the same as as Daka when he managed to tighten up his game to go with pace. 

I imagine there were some on those same forums who weren’t overwhelmed by Lukaku, De Bruyne etc.. as well. 
 

Just have to trust our people to make good decisions with our incoming transfers. A big ask, I know 

1 hour ago, dunlopp9987 said:

Oh don't even care. The fact that it's even out there is hilarious

There is no chance that we would get to a point where we have agreed to a fee with a club without the player himself being aware of our interest. Just silly headlines to fill the space before the season starts.

7 hours ago, Bailey said:

But what if the rest of your squad are crap at crossing? 

Do you change every players role to get the best out of them even if it sacrifices team or do you sacrifice the individual for the benefit of the team? 

I touched on that a bit but that is certainly the balance, yes. Ultimately you want the best team results and you do that by putting as many players as you can in a position to be successful. If you run into conflicts while doing that, well those are the decision managers get paid for.
 

I will say that putting your striker in the best position possible to score is likely going to be where a manager leans as that’s going to be more important than ensuring some other players strengths are catered to.

1 minute ago, Palfy said:

I agree to a degree, yet we didn’t change our system to suit Maupay, we still played to him the same ball we would have played to DCL, it was never going to work or play to the little ability Maupay has, in your opinion that’s poor management is it not. 

I think if we know Maupay is a different player than DCL and we play the ball to him like he’s DCL then, yes, it’s a mistake. It’s not always that easy of course as you try to take the strengths of the whole team into account but we were very poor at putting the ball in the net last season. I think we can agree that continually throwing in crosses to a short striker who is more effective with the ball at his feet is a bad idea. 
 

At the least you tweak your system to fit the type of players you have. If you had a prime Baines/Coleman you’d never want to ask them to stay back defensively. You wouldn’t be getting the most out of them even if that’s the type of approach you prefer as a manager.

1 hour ago, Bailey said:

I understand your point but I disagree. Managers can only do so well with the tools at their disposal. If you want to get the best out of your football club, bearing in mind its an 11 man team sport, then the players need to fit they way the manager wants to play. You don't want 4 paceless defenders who are crap on the ball playing a highline when the rest of the team suits that style of football. 

The managers idea of how to win football games must combine with the players brought into that system. Its fundamentally important.

Maybe Iheanacho is giving you the same impression Maupay did?

And fwiw Iheanacho is definitely not a left or right winger. He is probably best as a second striker IMO. I don't think he gets through enough of the hard graft required for a player that spearheads an attack in a team like ours.

Past experience! 

We signed Maupay when Lampard had us unable to advance the ball out of our own half!

I get what you’re saying but I think it just depends. Sure, when you’re signing players you want to have input from the manager and bring in players that fit his vision. Totally agree. My point is more that ultimately the manager’s job is to get the most out of his talent and put them in a position to be successful. 
 

If you have a striker who is great in the air you’d want to play in a way where lots of crosses came into the box. We also see it a lot where a player gets played out of position or is asked to do things that aren’t their strength and suffers for it. To me, if you’re a great manager you find a system that works best for your players rather than forcing them into something that won’t get the best out of them. Adaptability.

36 minutes ago, Bailey said:

I get this argument generally however a lot of people would have made similar comments about Maupay last season.

Decent player or not, does Iheanacho fit in with how Dyche is likely to play. If he doesn't, if he costs £1mil or £100mil it won't matter as whatever it will be is a waste of money.

 

This comes from the perspective of someone who has followed mostly  American sports for 30 years but..

The best coaches/managers, in my opinion, adapt to their talent. Yes, they have philosophies they want to impart but they do not fit square pegs into round holes. If you can’t get production out of good talent because it doesn’t fit the system you most prefer how good are you really? 

On 31/01/2023 at 16:21, BedfordBlue said:

I'm honestly done man everything about this club is shit now they really are useless 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is a strange comment. The player is not going on loan so we have no chance to sign him. Plenty to criticize at the club, but not this.

1 hour ago, Btay said:

I’d like to see him start though when we play like that. We’ve been a little bit hot & cold this season. Get Mcneil whipping crosses in whilst DCL is on the pitch and it’s just another dimension to the team. Hope he really kicks on after that goal though!

He can create. We don’t have many that can do that or that can shoot well from outside the box. He has certainly lacked consistency in between those moments of magic. We may simply have to live with that.

22 hours ago, Hafnia said:

His potential is frightening. He runs like he’s going for a jog but chews up ground, his rate of development will be quite quick I think.   He will have the odd stinker but overall I think it will be a matter of time before the elite start looking at him. 

Worth noting that almost every game the commentators mention how much potential he has. 

5 hours ago, Hafnia said:

Iwobi has loads of credit in the bank.  It’s the first time he’s ever had a run in centre midfield and he’s been superb. 
 

other players as we have seen before have dips that are attitude based, that to me is unacceptable. Fans get incensed by Tom Davies, I’m not a fan but there are far bigger culprits than him, talented players who just sometimes don’t fancy it. 

Yeah. I’ve never got the impression, even previously, that Iwobi couldn’t be bothered. Out of position, lacking confidence etc.. but for me he was always trying . The desire was there. Credit to him for sticking with it. If he can give us this level for the next 2,3,4 years he will be quite a cult favorite (or just a favorite) given his circuitous route to success.

17 hours ago, Hafnia said:

It’s amazing isn’t it. Players play shit and get pelters, play good and they get praise.  

I would say the issue comes when someone has played mostly very well for many many games and then gets hammered for one or two weaker performances, particularly when they come against better sides. At this point I think Iwobi has earned the benefit of the doubt. 

3 hours ago, plaidharper said:

A game off through suspension might help him sort his head.  Both him and Gray are trying to do too much by themselves offensively.  

I’m sure they feel the responsibility to replace Richie, especially without DCL.  It’s easy to forget how young Gordon still is. Hopefully the maturity comes and he can consistently be the player we have seen in flashes.

4 hours ago, RuffRob said:

I think he could do a job anywhere in midfield for us, and as injuries pop up I am sure we will start to see him become the go to replacement for all three of those currently starting.

It's going to be a  case then of making yourself undroppable. 

I think we saw a reminder last night that our team and midfield in particular is very much a work in progress and there will be bumps in the road. 

The experience and class of the Utd midfield really showed last night. Fernández, Eriksen and Cassamero. 

I think we are growing and I am sure over the next 18months Garner will be a big part of this. 

Good post. It’s just curious to me as I think we have basically 4 box to box types in Iwobi, Onana, Doucoure, Garner. Who fills the Gana role If need be? Who plays farthest forward? Do we bring in a true attacking midfielder? 
 

I trust Frank to figure it out but it’s all a bit uncertain from the outside looking in.

On 05/10/2022 at 21:20, dunlopp9987 said:

Soros is basically the Boogeyman to those on the right here in the states. They think he runs the world.

Can confirm. The impression on the right, not the world domination. 

Short but impactful debut. Here’s a question. Let’s say Garner pushes into the 1st team lineup this year or next. Whose place is he taking? What position is he now a backup for?