Tonsta

Settle for a point against Villa, we were in and out of the game today, a bit more belief needed, and certainty better passing required.

Thought we missed a trick by not bringing on Gomes for the last half hour, best passer at the club, and them playing such a high line.

Condolences to his family, RIP Bill 

I find this guy hard to swallow.

A friend of mine who supports Birmingham, said he was ok, he did not pull up any trees, and was not always first choice.

But he said he refused to go to his house for a meal.

I think because of the comments coming in the have changed the name, don't believe it for one minute 

21 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

When he was sent over to the screen he didn't have to go with what Pawson said. So mostly Pawson but Kavanagh shouldn't be absolved of all responsibility.

No i'm not absolving him, but when someone tells you i have looked at this from all angles and its a red, as we know they go with the VAR view, they think another top ref is putting me right, and that's the problem.

I don't think this is anything to do with Kavanagh,he did not even give a foul,  its 100% Pawson.

12 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

You really think it's just Pawson? I wouldn't trust any of the PGMOL to run a bath.

Maybe not but he sure has a vendetta against EFC.

That twat pawson again, this time in VAR, he would not send the shits C/B off, but once again got involved to send our player off, we should seriously complain to the P/L about him being involved in any of our games.

Like my Dad used to say at christmas, expect nothing and you wont be disappointed, But COYB

A lot to choose from, but went for Godfrey, so long out and that clearance right on half time was as good as a goal.

Great early xmas present, players missing but so well drilled by the management, so long since we have been able to say that. COYB.

Branth for me, reads the game so well, great performance all round.

To be honest i would not put put Digne anywhere near the level Bains played at, thought he was very average and we did well to get our money back. IMO 

2 points, this obsession with young has to stop, and keeping him on for 20 mins after the penalty is beyond belief.

2np point MacNeil needs to show some bottle and work ethic, he has back to player he was under Lampard.

Very disappointed huge step backwards against the weakest man utd we have faced for a long time.

We played the occasion not the team in front of us.

25 minutes ago, barryj said:

 

Its great the way you lads keep us all up to date, A big Thank You.

just read sky are going to turn down the crowd noise. or use pre recorded crowd noise, so we don't offend the PL, or any viewers if we swear. It is us against the world.

22 minutes ago, FairWooney said:

While I agree with all the outrage about our punishment I think some of the details in the report really highlight how foolishly we've been run.

Sure Moshiri's early spend could have seen us progress up the league and work out well with us earning more revenue through league places and Europe, we over spent on some players, some players didn't meet expectations and some of the signings weren't best thought out so some of that can be excused.  There's was certainly a lot of optimism around some of the signings, especially someone like Klassen who turned out to be a complete failure.  I'd say the failing was not having a great balance in the quality of the signings we made.

One thing that really got me though was that I read that we budgeted to finish 6th under Benitez!

 We'd finished 10th the previous season under Carlo so I can only assume that budget was based on Carlo still being there, even still that seems madness to budget based on the maximum place that we were likely to be able to finish!  I'd have been budgeting at finishing around 10th though given they'd have known they weren't giving Rafa any money even that would have been a bit of a stretch!

The other thing I wasn't happy with was that it clearly seems that although the stadium isn't included in the finances and Moshiri has "bankrolled" a large amount of the build what has happened is that because all of his money has gone there we've had to take out a load of loans to cover the clubs shortfall.  Given that we were reliant on MSP and then 777 to give us further loans this year the stadium build is clearly and very sadly crippling us at the moment.  Hopefully once we move in we will see the extra revenue start to turn the finances around in our favour.  I guess this was the price to pay for getting a new stadium at last.

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The Ukraine war and Gylfi were big factors in our losses which were out of our control.  Unfortunately with the Russians we were the one club to majorly suffer from the blocking of their dirty money!  There was always excitement from a lot of fans at getting Usmanov money and it's ended up going against us.

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I don't agree with the 10pt deduction but my thoughts on the "no sporting advantage" would be that any club spending beyond their means is giving themselves an advantage.  Clearly our spending over the years shows that we haven't spent massively at all but had we spent £20 million less somewhere there's probably a reasonable chance it would have been by cutting spend within the squad.

I think the other reason that they're pushing for point deduction (beyond just making a show of someone, being us) is that a fine just doesn't do much of a job at changing the way that clubs run themselves.  They're quite happy to pay a fine and move on.

If the fine was of any consequence it would probably just take us closer to the brink!

While i agree with what you have said, how was a fine ok for Leicester in 2018 for doing exactly as we have done.are the teams that finished second and third that year going to sue them, and a fine was ok for the 6 clubs who tried to destroy the premier league, double standards or what.

1 hour ago, barryj said:

But didn’t Leicester only get a £3.1m fine for a breach of FFP in 2018 for a £21m breach in 2013-14 by the EFL! 

Just read the article, they said it was spent on a new ground, other infrastructure,sound familiar, and it was the year they were promoted back to the premier league,so clubs will be suing them then, how can this bunch of fools, clobber us. Sledge hammer to crack a nut.

City have avoided this for over 10 years, simply because they have an army of legal experts to block any case brought against them. in other words money, the very thing this whole issue is about, Chelsea the same. But the irony is completely lost on the tossers that run this shit show. We had the so called big 6 trying break the premier league  up for a super league, they get a small fine, no points deducted,  this corruption has to be halted in its tracks.

SD week by week is getting us away from the bottom, and looking like a team again.

Im hopeful of continuing our steady progress, and getting something out of this, maybe all 3 points. COYB.

Went for Braithwaite, reads the game so well. and is proactive not reactive.

I do think we should have used the bench more, we have good options now, the doucs and dom we done in, having said that 3 points make it a wonderful day COYB.