RuffRob

Its purely about the results now - period. We have actually played much better this season and come away with draws or defeats.
Purely results wise we should have confirmed safety today and perhaps been able to use the last 5 games of the season to give fringe players a proper run out with a little less pressure and more freedom to play, (although Patterson is rules out). It would have be great to see Chermiti start some games and see proper if he has raw talent for the prem. 
Dyche could have experimented a bit with players, formations, tactics etc. However, we will never know becasue we are still in a relegation fight.  
More than any other season there have been outside distractions from football being caused internally and externally. None of use really know how this has effected behind the scence on the footballing side of the club (because its been horrendus as a fan), I don't think this season the club would have survived another managerial swap out.  Far far more problems at the club this year than 'how we play'.
I have seen both positive and negative from Dyche and it actually very difficult to judge him properly given the turbulence around the place. Had a good run and had a bad run, and still 5 games to go.  This season has not been black and white. 

Its purely about the results now - period. We have actually played much better this season and come away with draws or defeats.
Purely results wise we should have confirmed safety today and perhaps been able to use the last 5 games of the season to give fringe players a proper run out with a little less pressure and more freedom to play, (although Patterson is rules out). It would have be great to see Chermiti start some games and see proper if he has raw talent for the prem. 
Dyche could have experimented a bit with players, formations, tactics etc. However, we will never know becasue we are still in a relegation fight.  
More than any other season there have been outside distractions from football being caused internally and externally. None of use really know how this has effected behind the scence on the footballing side of the club (because its been horrendus as a fan), I don't think this season the club would have survived another managerial swap out.  Far far more problems at the club this year than 'how we play'.
I have seen both positive and negative from Dyche and it actually very difficult to judge him properly given the turbulence around the place. Had a good run and had a bad run, and still 5 games to go.  This season has not been black and white. 

Its purely about the results now - period. We have actually played much better this season and come away with draws or defeats.
Purely results wise we should have confirmed safety today and perhaps been able to use the last 5 games of the season to give fringe players a proper run out with a little less pressure and more freedom to play, (although Patterson is rules out). It would have be great to see Chermiti start some games and see proper if he has raw talent for the prem. 
Dyche could have experimented a bit with players, formations, tactics etc. However, we will never know becasue we are still in a relegation fight.  
More than any other season there have been outside distractions from football being caused internally and externally. None of use really know how this has effected behind the scence on the footballing side of the club (because its been horrendus as a fan), I don't think this season the club would have survived another managerial swap out.  Far far more problems at the club this year than 'how we play'.
I have seen both positive and negative from Dyche and it actually very difficult to judge him properly given the turbulence around the place. Had a good run and had a bad run, and still 5 games to go.  This season has not been black and white. 

I think that’s exactly the manager & the senior players role in those moments. It’s very distressing to see a team mate injured in that sense but there is still a job to do & focus required.
Re watching the highlights and having a laugh as Gana scored. I said last as he it came out to him “don’t you even dare you gimp leg fuck” only for him to plant it in the bottom corner 😂😂

Sometimes asking others to calm down, can have a positive impact on the patient. I am just saying as I’ve seen it work to good effect in a clinical setting. I realise this is far from a clinical setting. Just putting out there.
Cheers.

Well i said in another thread i was making a 5 hour round trip because i did not trust them to turn up.
It worked, im know back home, exhausted, but very very happy, COYB.

Agree totally, I was desperately hoping for a reaction to the Chelsea game - another lackluster performance today and I would really have been fearing the worst - i.e maybe Dyche had lost the dressing room and players losing heart. However, the players did react positivley.
Gana totallty put Onana to shame today. I know they are not the same type of players, but all players can give 100% when they get on that pitch and lead by example - Onana frustrates on that front, and will be happy enough to see him move on in the summer especially if any sort of reasonable profit can be made.
 

Agree totally, I was desperately hoping for a reaction to the Chelsea game - another lackluster performance today and I would really have been fearing the worst - i.e maybe Dyche had lost the dressing room and players losing heart. However, the players did react positivley.
Gana totallty put Onana to shame today. I know they are not the same type of players, but all players can give 100% when they get on that pitch and lead by example - Onana frustrates on that front, and will be happy enough to see him move on in the summer especially if any sort of reasonable profit can be made.
 

Yeah brilliant.  Maybe Onana could look on and see what a midfield performance is meant to look like. 
 
posing prick sat getting splinters while a bloke 12 years older done more running in 90 minutes than he has in 2 months. 

some posts age better than other. 😆
 

There was a massive amonit of pressue on that game. That win in just a massive win all around. 
Great to see McNeil getting a goal, lets hope that given him that drive to have a few more pops at goal.
I can enjoy the rest of the weekend. 
This result and Luton's yesterday make the Liverpool game a bit of a free hit now for both players and fans to try and actually enjoy the game .

some posts age better than other. 😆
 

some posts age better than other. 😆
 

some posts age better than other. 😆
 

some posts age better than other. 😆
 

This is the game in which all the players need to stand up and be counted - it is a proper 6 pointer. I can forgive the performance away to Chelsea if we get a reaction from the players and we get a deserved win against Forest. Beating Forest on Sunday is far more important than putting in a performance at Stamford Bridge. If the embarressing manner of Mondays defeat give the team the kick up that is needed for this run in, then it may not turn out to the be as bad a result as it initially looks. 
The fans will well and truly get behind the team if they show the fight that is expect. 
 
 

I've not read it like that, tbh.
I've read that as him laying it on a plate for the players. Most years over the last 7 or so we end up with the same thing.
To me, he's saying he's fighting and they can too. But he's not going to get sacked because of them, like other managers have.
Now, for me, these words would carry more meaning if we hadn't been on a shit run...
However, I do agree there is an air of arrogance. Like...on one hand hes saying he's responsible etc etc, on the other he's on the players regards the past.
I'm a bit bored of hearing about the off field stuff (points, owners etc). I get it has an impact, but it's his job to get the results still...not then come back and say 'look how hard this is for me...'
It's still a results business and that long run wasn't acceptable.
Like I've said before, judgement day at the end of the season. For now, full support and limp over the line.

This is the game in which all the players need to stand up and be counted - it is a proper 6 pointer. I can forgive the performance away to Chelsea if we get a reaction from the players and we get a deserved win against Forest. Beating Forest on Sunday is far more important than putting in a performance at Stamford Bridge. If the embarressing manner of Mondays defeat give the team the kick up that is needed for this run in, then it may not turn out to the be as bad a result as it initially looks. 
The fans will well and truly get behind the team if they show the fight that is expect. 
 
 

This is the game in which all the players need to stand up and be counted - it is a proper 6 pointer. I can forgive the performance away to Chelsea if we get a reaction from the players and we get a deserved win against Forest. Beating Forest on Sunday is far more important than putting in a performance at Stamford Bridge. If the embarressing manner of Mondays defeat give the team the kick up that is needed for this run in, then it may not turn out to the be as bad a result as it initially looks. 
The fans will well and truly get behind the team if they show the fight that is expect. 
 
 

This is the game in which all the players need to stand up and be counted - it is a proper 6 pointer. I can forgive the performance away to Chelsea if we get a reaction from the players and we get a deserved win against Forest. Beating Forest on Sunday is far more important than putting in a performance at Stamford Bridge. If the embarressing manner of Mondays defeat give the team the kick up that is needed for this run in, then it may not turn out to the be as bad a result as it initially looks. 
The fans will well and truly get behind the team if they show the fight that is expect. 
 
 

This is the game in which all the players need to stand up and be counted - it is a proper 6 pointer. I can forgive the performance away to Chelsea if we get a reaction from the players and we get a deserved win against Forest. Beating Forest on Sunday is far more important than putting in a performance at Stamford Bridge. If the embarressing manner of Mondays defeat give the team the kick up that is needed for this run in, then it may not turn out to the be as bad a result as it initially looks. 
The fans will well and truly get behind the team if they show the fight that is expect. 
 
 

could have wrote that myself.
This season 'horribilus' just has to now play itself out in the terrible state we are in both on and off the pitch from both our own doing and outside influences on the club. A whole season dogged by PSR and a somewhat questionable takeover.
Given the crap going on around the place - changing manager etc would be nothing more that a coin flip at best, why waste the money or have another mangerial change chalk up against the club. May as well be seen as a club who now give the manager every chance to turn shit around. Also why pay a manager off and simply let them off the hook. It fuck all to do with playing style now, all about grinding out results to get over the finsh line. 
 

Not dressing anything up. Unless he's actively coaching them to finish and pass well in training but bottle it when it counts, then I'll take it all back. But there's only so much you can do with those factors (and more) that are part of the overall problem before you look clueless. Honestly don't know anyone who would get this group performing as individuals and a team with the cloud hanging over the club and the years of bad mentalities in and around the club.
I've defended him in the past because the players were creating chances. But even the chances have dried up and I've not noticed much change in tactics (partly because he hasnt got a squad to change around) so it can only be in the players heads to improve things. 
But all that aside, if we could afford to sack him he would've been gone already and I would be pissed off that yet another manager with yet another style hasn't been given time rather than be annoyed at losing him. I think thats always been my stance, i can defend circumstances but I get angry with the situation and keep insisting on 1 manager just for that 1 element of stability.
Whichever new owner we get will have him out the door on day one (he might already know this and maybe that's affecting him too, though he doesn't seem the type to me). But who turns this groups head around? Genuinely don't know and maybe a fire sale is going to be beneficial, so long as we have a manager in place.
That's not me accepting the poorness of our play, that's me recognising we're in a shit place and if I thought changing the manager would improve things, I'd be supportive of it. But I don't believe it will beneficial.

He comes across as a very nice lad.  I'd love to see him get fit and and make his comeback with us.