RuffRob

This is the game in which all the players need to stand up and be counted - it is a proper 6 pointer. I can forgive the performance away to Chelsea if we get a reaction from the players and we get a deserved win against Forest. Beating Forest on Sunday is far more important than putting in a performance at Stamford Bridge. If the embarressing manner of Mondays defeat give the team the kick up that is needed for this run in, then it may not turn out to the be as bad a result as it initially looks. 
The fans will well and truly get behind the team if they show the fight that is expect. 
 
 

This is the game in which all the players need to stand up and be counted - it is a proper 6 pointer. I can forgive the performance away to Chelsea if we get a reaction from the players and we get a deserved win against Forest. Beating Forest on Sunday is far more important than putting in a performance at Stamford Bridge. If the embarressing manner of Mondays defeat give the team the kick up that is needed for this run in, then it may not turn out to the be as bad a result as it initially looks. 
The fans will well and truly get behind the team if they show the fight that is expect. 
 
 

could have wrote that myself.
This season 'horribilus' just has to now play itself out in the terrible state we are in both on and off the pitch from both our own doing and outside influences on the club. A whole season dogged by PSR and a somewhat questionable takeover.
Given the crap going on around the place - changing manager etc would be nothing more that a coin flip at best, why waste the money or have another mangerial change chalk up against the club. May as well be seen as a club who now give the manager every chance to turn shit around. Also why pay a manager off and simply let them off the hook. It fuck all to do with playing style now, all about grinding out results to get over the finsh line. 
 

Not dressing anything up. Unless he's actively coaching them to finish and pass well in training but bottle it when it counts, then I'll take it all back. But there's only so much you can do with those factors (and more) that are part of the overall problem before you look clueless. Honestly don't know anyone who would get this group performing as individuals and a team with the cloud hanging over the club and the years of bad mentalities in and around the club.
I've defended him in the past because the players were creating chances. But even the chances have dried up and I've not noticed much change in tactics (partly because he hasnt got a squad to change around) so it can only be in the players heads to improve things. 
But all that aside, if we could afford to sack him he would've been gone already and I would be pissed off that yet another manager with yet another style hasn't been given time rather than be annoyed at losing him. I think thats always been my stance, i can defend circumstances but I get angry with the situation and keep insisting on 1 manager just for that 1 element of stability.
Whichever new owner we get will have him out the door on day one (he might already know this and maybe that's affecting him too, though he doesn't seem the type to me). But who turns this groups head around? Genuinely don't know and maybe a fire sale is going to be beneficial, so long as we have a manager in place.
That's not me accepting the poorness of our play, that's me recognising we're in a shit place and if I thought changing the manager would improve things, I'd be supportive of it. But I don't believe it will beneficial.

He comes across as a very nice lad.  I'd love to see him get fit and and make his comeback with us. 
 

It's not acceptance of average at all, it's realising that reality is reality. And the reality is for us that we're pretty shit and that it's going to take a long time to improve to the extent that we challenge for anything remotely looking like success.
We're nowhere near chasing success currently but what I want us to chase is progress. That means finishing at least one place further up the league every season, possibly getting through to a further round in each cup (possibly because knock-out competitions are hard thing to get through).
What it doesn't mean is getting irate because the team isn't challenging for titles/cups all because we won a league in 1987. Times change. You have to realise where you currently are and where you want to get to. But it takes time and you need to have a bit of perspective.
Now, that does not mean that I don't want to get back to what we once were. Nil Satis Nisi Optimum means a hell of a lot to me, I have it tattooed on my skin. Nothing but the best is good enough is a fantastic motto to follow and we absolutely should live by it, but 'the best' doesn't really mean actually being the best of all. It means being the best you can be and the best we can be is not the best of all.
We need to learn to walk again before we can run.

Again, it's not about acceptance of average, average to poor is just the reality after many many cock ups.

makes sense to do that - can't go in to the final round of games not knowing what is needed. I fucking hope we don't need to go to Arsenal needing any sort of result!!. 
 
 

If they can turn us from a financial fuck up to a potential cash cow of a club - all credit to them. Aren't we looking for somebody to unlock our 'potential'. Then they will have done a significantly better job than anybody else in the past +20years. 
The main thing that has been wrong with Everton is its been poorly run at the top ownership level -  so why wouldn't they favour sorting our how the club is run and managed in the first instance rather than selling tangible assets for what would most likley have to be sold cheaper than what they have just raised the funds to purchased - the sum of its parts are not worth as much as Everton as a whole . 777 are doing the exact opposite of selling asset at Genoa - they are buy and looking to improving them there. I would be looking at what they are doing in Genoe (the current biggest football club in their portfolio) to mabye get the best idea of what they might do with us, rather than speculation on what the doom mongers are writing about. To me there are easier less risky ways to turn a quick buck than buying a football club. I really don't think thats what this buy out is all about. 
I am aware of the warning signs and all the negative stuff thats out there about them, but I want to be causiuosely optomistic about 777 Partners as it looks highly likley that they will be the new owners. I don't want to focus on negatives before they have even stepped foot in the building - been nothing but negatives about this club for far to long. 
I am not nieve, and I realise it's all about making money. The best way to make money - and big money in football is to make the club and everything around it better and grow the Everton brand. 
I think 777 Partners see us very much as a sleeping giant and believe they can awake that giant and bring us in to the modern footballing arena to the benefit to both shareholder and fans alike. isn't that what we all want as fans from a owner?
I don't have a problem with that - smart, current and innovative people running the show is what this club need more than anything and I think this is what 777 Partners beleive they can bring to the show to get best value out of purchasing Everton. If 777 Partners are pulling together the best part of a billion to aquire us, then we will be getting the upmost attention and efforts from their very best people. This mob are going to be about running us effectively rather than chucking money at problems.
We have had autocratic leadership at this club for to long, individuals who think they know best in running a football club making all key desision, and doing it badly - time to go for a more democratic and stratigic leadership.
This cup has the potential to be just as much half full as it is to be half empty. 
 
 
 

I hear a lot of scare mongering about what 777 Partner are going to do once they aquire us.
Everton are not a cash cow, our revenue is pretty poor in PL terms for anybody at the moment and I don't see how a 'quick buck' is going to be turned by buying something for more that it's potentially worth, and then 'selling off' the best part of the business. 
Evertons biggest issue over the past 5-6 year (and beyond) is that its not been properly run as a world class PL footballing business.  
To me surly the best way to make money out of a poorly run football club is to actually run the club properly and increase the Everton brand globally.
We have seen club run by some very nieve owners who have thrown money around all over the place, with it pretty much all wasted.
I am fairly sure 777 Partners will.be putting their top sports business  people to work on the Everton project. It will not be about how much money they can throw at the project, I will be about making Everton a good or great footballing business.
Although, I say it with a degree of caution, I think the 777 Partnership takeover has the potential to improve this club massively - time for new blood and new approach. 

unfortunately that's a big only. it's go to the point now that teams smell blood around Everton. Forest and Luton will be look at us winnable games. 
fucking hell do we miss Gana when he doesn't play.

I hear a lot of scare mongering about what 777 Partner are going to do once they aquire us.
Everton are not a cash cow, our revenue is pretty poor in PL terms for anybody at the moment and I don't see how a 'quick buck' is going to be turned by buying something for more that it's potentially worth, and then 'selling off' the best part of the business. 
Evertons biggest issue over the past 5-6 year (and beyond) is that its not been properly run as a world class PL footballing business.  
To me surly the best way to make money out of a poorly run football club is to actually run the club properly and increase the Everton brand globally.
We have seen club run by some very nieve owners who have thrown money around all over the place, with it pretty much all wasted.
I am fairly sure 777 Partners will.be putting their top sports business  people to work on the Everton project. It will not be about how much money they can throw at the project, I will be about making Everton a good or great footballing business.
Although, I say it with a degree of caution, I think the 777 Partnership takeover has the potential to improve this club massively - time for new blood and new approach. 

unfortunately that's a big only. it's go to the point now that teams smell blood around Everton. Forest and Luton will be look at us winnable games. 
fucking hell do we miss Gana when he doesn't play.

We that was well and truly a thrashing. This team's confidence is at rock bottom.
Everything to do with this club at the moment saps the joy and enthusiasm out of fans. 
A reaction to tonights performance is a must against Forest. This team have to show something for the fans to react positively too next weekend. 
I fear it's shit or bust for this team. If the fans turn on player, I don't think they have the character to deal with it as we would need.
we desperately need to see a win on Sunday.
 
 

well that's me pretty much £20 ligher  . I am hating the red shite even more this afternoon as I had them nailed on to beat Palace. 
 

well that's me pretty much £20 ligher  . I am hating the red shite even more this afternoon as I had them nailed on to beat Palace. 
 

well that's me pretty much £20 ligher  . I am hating the red shite even more this afternoon as I had them nailed on to beat Palace. 
 

well that's me pretty much £20 ligher  . I am hating the red shite even more this afternoon as I had them nailed on to beat Palace. 
 

well that's me pretty much £20 ligher  . I am hating the red shite even more this afternoon as I had them nailed on to beat Palace. 
 

I was kind of thinking the very same thing. Moshiri (Usmanov) where the billionaire's who have own the club over the past 6 years or so and they have had both plenty of time and the resources to restructure RMF financing under their watch.This debt wasn't an issue 3-5 years ago when money was being wasted left right and centre on bang average players.
There have been poor decisons going back many a year, which all just seem to compound themselves. We have had plenty of back luck on the way mind you, but much of our trouble are bourne of poor decision making.
My personnal take on this - modern football clubs need to be run by modern global sport focused business people and it has been for sometime, 'romantic' local owners are simply out of their depth in the PL era, however well their intentions might be.
I think Kenwright thought he was going to get the next Abramavich (via Moshiri) for the club when he sold his shares - but that dream slowly turned in to a nightmare and culminated into a total cluster fuck once Usmanov's ability to invest was forced out of the equation and now Moshiri is scurrying off behind him and simply trying to get as much of his money back as he can. The whole thing is a financial mish mash now Moshiri simply wants out. 
 

If we hadn't had 8 points deducted this season, and we where already pretty much safe (since pretty much Xmas) around mid-table (rather than in a relagation battle), you can't help but wonder if the 777 Partners would have found it significantly easier in raising the funds for purchase of Everton FC had we already had one foot in next years PL. 
Ground broken and comittment to the build made and then the overnight enforced loss of the actual Russian billionarie who we all know was behind the ownership of the club and the real money behind everything, three years of relegation battles, 18months of talk of PSR, whole season of being charged and docking of points, 30-40% raise in the cost of construction works - as well as poor management there are some massive slices of very bad luck in the timing of what is arguble the single biggest investment the club has ever made - all now currently now being done on a rudderless ship. 
I am going to hazard a guess that the stadium will possibley come in around £150 to 200M over the original budget forcast.  

I was kind of thinking the very same thing. Moshiri (Usmanov) where the billionaire's who have own the club over the past 6 years or so and they have had both plenty of time and the resources to restructure RMF financing under their watch.This debt wasn't an issue 3-5 years ago when money was being wasted left right and centre on bang average players.
There have been poor decisons going back many a year, which all just seem to compound themselves. We have had plenty of back luck on the way mind you, but much of our trouble are bourne of poor decision making.
My personnal take on this - modern football clubs need to be run by modern global sport focused business people and it has been for sometime, 'romantic' local owners are simply out of their depth in the PL era, however well their intentions might be.
I think Kenwright thought he was going to get the next Abramavich (via Moshiri) for the club when he sold his shares - but that dream slowly turned in to a nightmare and culminated into a total cluster fuck once Usmanov's ability to invest was forced out of the equation and now Moshiri is scurrying off behind him and simply trying to get as much of his money back as he can. The whole thing is a financial mish mash now Moshiri simply wants out. 
 

I was kind of thinking the very same thing. Moshiri (Usmanov) where the billionaire's who have own the club over the past 6 years or so and they have had both plenty of time and the resources to restructure RMF financing under their watch.This debt wasn't an issue 3-5 years ago when money was being wasted left right and centre on bang average players.
There have been poor decisons going back many a year, which all just seem to compound themselves. We have had plenty of back luck on the way mind you, but much of our trouble are bourne of poor decision making.
My personnal take on this - modern football clubs need to be run by modern global sport focused business people and it has been for sometime, 'romantic' local owners are simply out of their depth in the PL era, however well their intentions might be.
I think Kenwright thought he was going to get the next Abramavich (via Moshiri) for the club when he sold his shares - but that dream slowly turned in to a nightmare and culminated into a total cluster fuck once Usmanov's ability to invest was forced out of the equation and now Moshiri is scurrying off behind him and simply trying to get as much of his money back as he can. The whole thing is a financial mish mash now Moshiri simply wants out. 
 

If we hadn't had 8 points deducted this season, and we where already pretty much safe (since pretty much Xmas) around mid-table (rather than in a relagation battle), you can't help but wonder if the 777 Partners would have found it significantly easier in raising the funds for purchase of Everton FC had we already had one foot in next years PL. 
Ground broken and comittment to the build made and then the overnight enforced loss of the actual Russian billionarie who we all know was behind the ownership of the club and the real money behind everything, three years of relegation battles, 18months of talk of PSR, whole season of being charged and docking of points, 30-40% raise in the cost of construction works - as well as poor management there are some massive slices of very bad luck in the timing of what is arguble the single biggest investment the club has ever made - all now currently now being done on a rudderless ship. 
I am going to hazard a guess that the stadium will possibley come in around £150 to 200M over the original budget forcast.  

If we hadn't had 8 points deducted this season, and we where already pretty much safe (since pretty much Xmas) around mid-table (rather than in a relagation battle), you can't help but wonder if the 777 Partners would have found it significantly easier in raising the funds for purchase of Everton FC had we already had one foot in next years PL. 
Ground broken and comittment to the build made and then the overnight enforced loss of the actual Russian billionarie who we all know was behind the ownership of the club and the real money behind everything, three years of relegation battles, 18months of talk of PSR, whole season of being charged and docking of points, 30-40% raise in the cost of construction works - as well as poor management there are some massive slices of very bad luck in the timing of what is arguble the single biggest investment the club has ever made - all now currently now being done on a rudderless ship. 
I am going to hazard a guess that the stadium will possibley come in around £150 to 200M over the original budget forcast.