Paddock Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 Zenit's manager just yesterday contradicted everyone who has reported anything like Everton having a deal in place with Zenit. Hesaid he has offers from2 English clubs and 2 in Italy which proves he's spoken and they know he has to clubs, he never said any had been accepted by Zenit but all the reports coming from every single press source both British and abroad say no club has matched Evertons bid which may be the stumbling block as he may not want to come here but Zenit may now be saying unless they match Evertons bid he'll either have to stay or go to Everton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted July 24, 2016 Report Share Posted July 24, 2016 All this "I don't blame him stuff and everyone want's to better themselves I'd listen to other companies etc" stuff doesn't wash with me. It's not like he's getting paid £350 a week atm and now it could go up to £500 we are talking £120k a week here (allegedly) wherever he goes he will get millions in signing on fees, boot sponsorships, wages etc 120ka year is 6.25 mila year give or take a few quid which equates to over 30 million over a 5 year contract. Does he need to hold out for a few more?Who says it's just about money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted July 25, 2016 Report Share Posted July 25, 2016 Why the hell is Carvalho getting mentioned here? Completely different play who again will offer nothing go forward. I'd prefer the two players. But if it was between Witsel and Carvalho it would be witsel all day. For the last several years, Witsel actually has been that number six type for Belgium. He sits just in front of the centre backs, doesn't venture forward himself and doesn't put a lot of risk in any of his passes. He's been criticized for slowing the game down too much (walking with the ball for a bit when he receives it and probably passing it to a full back rather than forward). He says that he still plays as a box-to-box for Zenit, but apart from a couple of European matches against lowly Belgian competition, I haven't seen him play for them so couldn't say how he's doing for them. For Belgium at least, he's basically James McCarthy. He's more athletic etc. but he plays the game the same way. He should be partnered with someone who has more verticality to his game, who passes forward more directly, etc. Besic probably fits that part more than McCarthy and Barry, but is he actually good enough? Maybe Tom Davies could be that player, I'd like to see him in midfield rather than at rightback in the rest of preseason. chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Kristof TerreurGeverifieerd account @HLNinEngeland 2 uur2 uur geleden Axel Witsel's advisor in @hlnsport: "The reason why he's linked to so many clubs? Agents negotiating in our name, while we don't know them." Seems like their might not be a lot of truth to any of these rumours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 I'd rather have the Portuguese lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 26, 2016 Report Share Posted July 26, 2016 Never really been interested in us signing the lad and constantly seeing his name has compounded that further Decent player who's not worth the money being mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 "the esk" on twitter says this is close - and it has been for a while but the situation changed regarding timings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted July 27, 2016 Report Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) Italian newspaper Tuttosport says that Witsel is their main transfer target now that they signed Higuain and they *claim* that WItsel would stall Everton's approaches because he'd prefer to play for the Italian champions. Again, this is just talks from a sensation loving newspaper. Edited July 27, 2016 by Mirallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 this thread/transfer is painful, in my view if he wanted to sign for us he would have done so by now. badaids 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 have any bids been accepted for him? He plays for a Russian team - they only sell players when they are awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 have any bids been accepted for him? He plays for a Russian team - they only sell players when they are awful. Not any more. Zenit have huge financial problems now because Gazprom are no longer bank-rolling the club. That's why they just shipped Hulk off to China and are looking to off-load Witsel. Added to this, following Russia's piss-poor showing in the Euros, the government has issued a kind of 'directive' to the 4 main clubs (CSKA, Spartak, Zenit and Locomotive) to bring through more young Russian players and ship out the expensive foreigners. CSKA are havng a similar 'cull' of their own foreigners right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Noise suggesting he's on the verge of a Juve move. Waiting for the Pogba deal to be finalised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Noise suggesting he's on the verge of a Juve move. Waiting for the Pogba deal to be finalised. He was only going to come here if there was absolutely no other option. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 He's said that he thinks it's better if he stays with Zenit for another year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) He's said that he thinks it's better if he stays with Zenit for another year. Basically, teams he WANTED interest in him, weren't. Juve will buy a decent Pogba replacement for a 3rd of the price, he'll move to Juve next year on a free and bank some serious dollar. Edited August 11, 2016 by Lowensda Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Glad this is over. He clearly didn't want to come here so fuck him. Matt and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 *sighs with relief* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Many sources suggested he had the contract since the beginning of the window, if that wasn't good enough, i'm more than fine with him not coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Many sources suggested he had the contract since the beginning of the window, if that wasn't good enough, i'm more than fine with him not coming. The actual people involved contradicted that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 be available for a lot less next year if we want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 be available for a lot less next year if we want him. I wouldn't go anywhere near him. He allegedly had an excellent offer on the table from us, if it's not good enough now it should be withdrawn, there's plenty of other players. Lowensda and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 I wouldn't go anywhere near him. He allegedly had an excellent offer on the table from us, if it's not good enough now it should be withdrawn, there's plenty of other players. true.... all being well we will be able to attract a better player next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 All reports suggested we were overpaying him (based on other options).....so I don't think it was greed Esk. Think you just got this one wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 All reports suggested we were overpaying him (based on other options).....so I don't think it was greed Esk. Think you just got this one wrong. For the life of me I don't get why people believe any of these "in the knows". They've all been talking about Witsel, Carvalho and Mata. None had any inkling about Gueye, Williams, Bolasie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 For the life of me I don't get why people believe any of these "in the knows". They've all been talking about Witsel, Carvalho and Mata. None had any inkling about Gueye, Williams, Bolasie... Simple: people want news and will take anything to get their fix. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 For the life of me I don't get why people believe any of these "in the knows". They've all been talking about Witsel, Carvalho and Mata. None had any inkling about Gueye, Williams, Bolasie... This is the best part. Where were they when 'actual' targets were in the process of signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Said this the other day. Every target any "ITK" have named hasn't arrived yet not one of them has called ""Williams, Gueye, Bollasie or Kone. Not a single person named any of those, if they were genuinally ITK they would have know surely. I think some of them do get snippets of info, someone posted a piconTwitter of Gueye getting hisphotos done at FF it was taken from an upstairs window so he clearly has a pal who works there but I think that's about as far as their info goes myself. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Said this the other day. Every target any "ITK" have named hasn't arrived yet not one of them has called ""Williams, Gueye, Bollasie or Kone. Not a single person named any of those, if they were genuinally ITK they would have know surely. And I think this is a credit as to how Everton go about their business. Lowensda and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Said this the other day. Every target any "ITK" have named hasn't arrived yet not one of them has called ""Williams, Gueye, Bollasie or Kone. Not a single person named any of those, if they were genuinally ITK they would have know surely. I think some of them do get snippets of info, someone posted a piconTwitter of Gueye getting hisphotos done at FF it was taken from an upstairs window so he clearly has a pal who works there but I think that's about as far as their info goes myself. Fourth Official called Williams, Gueye and Walsh but hasn't said anything else about other targets. I have made decent money backing what he has said! Just be careful that you don't follow the ones he retweets or states the source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Back to Witsel, I have never been that impressed with him and the supposed deal struck me as a massive waste of money so all in all I am glad it hasn't gone through. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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