MikeO Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Scores again. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 good i'm glad he's back in the goals, we need him this weekend at sunderland to bag a few. 3 points to keep our good form going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 good i'm glad he's back in the goals, we need him this weekend at sunderland to bag a few. 3 points to keep our good form going. I wish Monday was the weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 I wish Monday was the weekend! shit, had a holiday yesterday so i'm all off romey. sorry WISH IT WAS FUCKING MONDAY ALREADY SO WE CAN KICK SOME MACKEM ASS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Monday game followed by a Friday game, the World's gone mad. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Monday game followed by a Friday game, the World's gone mad. The Everton site says we play Boro on Saturday at 5:30? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Tim still scoring for Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 The Everton site says we play Boro on Saturday at 5:30? Josh told me we were playing Friday earlier, I'll go and give him a slap . (Well I would do if he wasn't likely to hit back harder ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 https://twitter.com/squawka/status/772816846722506752 Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Josh told me we were playing Friday earlier, I'll go and give him a slap . (Well I would do if he wasn't likely to hit back harder ) He might still be right, it is the Everton site! Let me know which one is right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) Monday night the Sunderland game Boro the following Saturday late KO Edited September 7, 2016 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 https://twitter.com/squawka/status/772816846722506752 Really hope we're still in the 2 week challenge.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 https://twitter.com/squawka/status/772816846722506752 I do wish these sites would put context behind some stats..... Rom:- 151 games - 60 goals (1 in 2.5) Icardi:- 120 games - 58 goals (1 in 2) Kane:- 86 games - 49 goals (1 in 1.75) Berardi - 92 games - 40 goals (1 in 2.3) Dybala - 125 games - 40 goals (not sure where they got his stats from) Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Really hope we're still in the 2 week challenge.... fact not opinion matt... fact not opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 fact not opinion matt... fact not opinion. Yup, fact is he's the best u23 goal scorer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Yup, fact is he's the best u23 goal scorer yup - fact is he played more games than the others and has the second lowest goals to games ratio. That's why I hate lack of context in stats - its like car salesman trickery. I asked a salesman what is your APR on your finance on this car over the 3 years? - his reply? "You will only pay £20 per week". I asked again - what is your APR? his reply was "Is £20 a week out of your budget?"....... quietly I do my sums using his £20 a week spin..... my reply was "OK - thanks for not telling me that the APR is 29.9%, I understand that the car will cost £20 per week to repay but if I use my own credit card it will work out at £14 per week as you are skimming a third off, if you were up front with me I would have made that choice and maybe still bought the car.... you lost a sale" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 yup - fact is he played more games than the others and has the second lowest goals to games ratio. That's why I hate lack of context in stats - its like car salesman trickery. I asked a salesman what is your APR on your finance on this car over the 3 years? - his reply? "You will only pay £20 per week". I asked again - what is your APR? his reply was "Is £20 a week out of your budget?"....... quietly I do my sums using his £20 a week spin..... my reply was "OK - thanks for not telling me that the APR is 29.9%, I understand that the car will cost £20 per week to repay but if I use my own credit card it will work out at £14 per week as you are skimming a third off, if you were up front with me I would have made that choice and maybe still bought the car.... you lost a sale" Aaah, come on man! That was too easy You're right, but thats the beauty/problem with stats - both are actually correct and it depends on how you want to interpret them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 What does it matter if there's maybe 2 or 3 U23 strikers who are a tad more efficient blablabla even that needs a context btw... What matters is that he's a good, effective and consistent goalscorer who has evolved to bring more qualities into the game than just bagging goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Same old, same old. Both sides right. I thinks it's naive to think that opposition doesn't count. England playing Accrington? Players makes debut and scores four. England playing Argentina? Player makes his 20the cap and scores one. Will the manager drop one for the other? Of course neither is actually more likely. Though experience would choose the senior player...caps wise. Does that make the debutant shit? Again .could go either way. But on my playing career I found it easier to score past the church wickets than i did against bridgenorth town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 yup - fact is he played more games than the others and has the second lowest goals to games ratio. That's why I hate lack of context in stats - its like car salesman trickery. I asked a salesman what is your APR on your finance on this car over the 3 years? - his reply? "You will only pay £20 per week". I asked again - what is your APR? his reply was "Is £20 a week out of your budget?"....... quietly I do my sums using his £20 a week spin..... my reply was "OK - thanks for not telling me that the APR is 29.9%, I understand that the car will cost £20 per week to repay but if I use my own credit card it will work out at £14 per week as you are skimming a third off, if you were up front with me I would have made that choice and maybe still bought the car.... you lost a sale" If a car salesman does that they are in breach of FCA regs, risk losing their own ability to sell financial products and also risk their companies ability to sell financial products. In the case of a main dealer, that could lose them the franchise. Big problems. You should have reported him to FCA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Roms first touch has improved over the summer btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 What does it matter if there's maybe 2 or 3 U23 strikers who are a tad more efficient blablabla even that needs a context btw... What matters is that he's a good, effective and consistent goalscorer who has evolved to bring more qualities into the game than just bagging goals. Are they just going to add a year on to this stat every year as long as he has more games and more chances to score than his peers? Its a very obvious "spin" stat. lets say a kid aged 19 scores 30 goals in 30 games of his first season in the top flight ..... he will not make this list.... but you bet your bottom dollar he will be europes hottest property I'm not too sure about the other qualities you speak of, to me he is a player who unless he puts the ball in the back of the net doesn't offer much more - his hold up play and linkage is generally pretty poor, his work rate is questionable so yeah back to goals.... His last ones came in early march and he has been 13 league games without scoring - that is a consistent run of games without scoring. If this was Kone he would be dropped and ridiculed. Lets hope the 2 goals against Cyprus get him going again because he has looked pretty poor since March including the Euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 If a car salesman does that they are in breach of FCA regs, risk losing their own ability to sell financial products and also risk their companies ability to sell financial products. In the case of a main dealer, that could lose them the franchise. Big problems. You should have reported him to FCA. I'm more than aware of miss-selling..... payment protection springs to mind. He will have probably covered it in his waffle when you are about to sign the agreement. The trick is to identify the spin or at least be aware of what they are saying in their sales disclosure - most people aren't. They recall the spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Roms first touch has improved over the summer btw. I have dejavu - there has been many false dawns with this. He can have the odd game where it sticks and then the next game it bounces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 The sales game has changed now, they aren't like dodgy car sales guys from the past anymore. There are so many deals and bits of information on the net now that the best salesmen just put the info out infront of the customer and give complete honesty. But what you said isn't miss selling, its deception. If a customer asks a question about a financial product you have to answer it. Miss selling is if they give you a financial product in the deal without telling you. Must have gone to a bad bad place haf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 The sales game has changed now, they aren't like dodgy car sales guys from the past anymore. There are so many deals and bits of information on the net now that the best salesmen just put the info out infront of the customer and give complete honesty. But what you said isn't miss selling, its deception. If a customer asks a question about a financial product you have to answer it. Miss selling is if they give you a financial product in the deal without telling you. Must have gone to a bad bad place haf. Vauxhalls - ellesmere port..... he had bad shoes (always makes me weary on salesman). I would be very surprised if he was still working there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Can't wait till Tuesday....to see what boots Lukaku's wearing haha. I'll have to remember that one next time I buy a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Can't wait till Tuesday....to see what boots Lukaku's wearing haha. I'll have to remember that one next time I buy a car. More bothered about the attitude. His goalscoring should take care of itself... if he chooses the right attitude he will score goals and offer the team an edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Are they just going to add a year on to this stat every year as long as he has more games and more chances to score than his peers? Its a very obvious "spin" stat. lets say a kid aged 19 scores 30 goals in 30 games of his first season in the top flight ..... he will not make this list.... but you bet your bottom dollar he will be europes hottest property I'm not too sure about the other qualities you speak of, to me he is a player who unless he puts the ball in the back of the net doesn't offer much more - his hold up play and linkage is generally pretty poor, his work rate is questionable so yeah back to goals.... His last ones came in early march and he has been 13 league games without scoring - that is a consistent run of games without scoring. If this was Kone he would be dropped and ridiculed. Lets hope the 2 goals against Cyprus get him going again because he has looked pretty poor since March including the Euros. Fortunately some of us can see past his goals tally and can judge him as a player He came on as a sub against WBA when we were 1-0 down and didn't score but played a major part in turning that game around Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip1 Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Hey Hafnia, I am a Belgian fan of Everton since Rom is playing for the club. I am sic of all your comments on this thread. It seems you like it to hate Lukaku. I c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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