Romey 1878 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 They can keep dreaming for that price. Also, Gibbs anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 They can keep dreaming for that price. Also, Gibbs anyone? ...give us Gibbs and Chamakh and we'll start negotiating add-ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 ...give us Gibbs and Chamakh and we'll start negotiating add-ons. That isn't what I meant. I meant they already have Gibbs so I didn't think they'd want to spend upwards of £10million on a player they don't need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 http://www.bluekipper.com/players/80-something_fishy/2600-swap_deal_for_miguel.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 That isn't what I meant. I meant they already have Gibbs so I didn't think they'd want to spend upwards of £10million on a player they don't need. The funny thing is, if Gibbs played regulary for Arse he'd more than likely be in the England squad ahead of Baines - he may not be quite as good but that would be the case with the bias towards the Champs League teams. I do really like Gibbs as a player and think he'll end up a class player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Lets be honest we should be buying a decent left winger to compliment Baines not selling him! Pienaar on loan next season coz he cant get a game at Spurs ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/859948-gael-clichy-to-be-offered-for-leighton-baines-swap-as-liverpool-track-deal Strait swap for Gael Clichy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/859948-gael-clichy-to-be-offered-for-leighton-baines-swap-as-liverpool-track-deal Strait swap for Gael Clichy! As. Fucking. If. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 http://www.metro.co....pool-track-deal Strait swap for Gael Clichy! ]The fact that Juventus are thought to be ready to offer £13.2million for Clichy illustrates how highly the Arsenal manager rates Baines.[/size] Really? 13.2m is a good offer for one of the best LBs in the world right now? Didnt they value Cole at 25+m when Chelsea were sniffing around? This whole speculation is a joke anyway. If anyone goes it will be Rodwell or Felli but I doubt very much that it will be Baines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 Think its time to get me spray paint out 'fcuk off the lot of you Baines is going nowhere' would look good in bold letters all round Gp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted April 5, 2011 Report Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) swap for clichy is todays rumour. didnt read it has already been posted, sorry! Im abit rusty with the forum atm I dont believe for a second this deal will happen, more like they offer Gibbs. Edited April 5, 2011 by aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2011/04/city-to-move-for-baines/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NilSatisNisiOptimumNews+%28Nil+Satis+Nisi+Optimum%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Not a chance we'll let him go for £15m, certainly not to City. Double it and then it'd be worth answering the phone....no say no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/244037/Manchester-City-bid-20m-plus-Bridge-for-Baines I wouldnt like to see it happen but I think it would be hard for the club to turn down if it were true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 Bridge is an awful player, so I'd hope that if we are tempted we'd tell them we want money and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/244037/Manchester-City-bid-20m-plus-Bridge-for-Baines I wouldnt like to see it happen but I think it would be hard for the club to turn down if it were true I agree, Bridge would be a decent replacement but his injuries seem to have caught up with him since when he went on that amazing run of not missing a game for southampton and then chelsea. He'd no doubt want his bezzie mate SWP to join him (still think he'd be decent for a few seasons for us). If they really want him though we'll have £20m plus Kolarov!!! and either Johnson or Milner or Richards to sweeten the deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2011/04/30/moyes-quells-baines-sale-talk Seems to have slipped under the radar this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 He is a very valuable team player. If cole was touted at £30m at his peak then I think that's what we should look for in baines. For me it all depends on garbutts development. I would take £20-£30m for him with a decent enough left back thrown in. Then use the money to strengthen up front. Would be horrible to see him go though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 He is a very valuable team player. If cole was touted at £30m at his peak then I think that's what we should look for in baines. For me it all depends on garbutts development. I would take £20-£30m for him with a decent enough left back thrown in. Then use the money to strengthen up front. Would be horrible to see him go though. Whats the point in letting him go to strengthen the front line if we let our biggest supplier of assists go? I'd rather see Rodwell go if we need the money, Baines is a must keep at all costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Whats the point in letting him go to strengthen the front line if we let our biggest supplier of assists go? I'd rather see Rodwell go if we need the money, Baines is a must keep at all costs. Very sensible that Matt, glad someone doesnt see pound signs but the bigger picture! Losing Baines and what he brings to the team would be an almighty fcuk up, simples!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Ok.... Look at it from a different perspective, if we had £30m would you spend it on baines if he played for another team? Given that he is more or less doing the job of a left winger (which we don't have doing a good job) as I said, I would be gutted to see him go. We could sell rodwell, I'm coming round to the idea more now he seems to have hit a wall in his development. Baines should be one of the players that we build a team around, problem is we don't have money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Another worry id have Hafnia is we know what Baines is good at we could go and blow a fortune on a lb who turns out to be turd! You dont have to look to far to see it can happen how much was Glen Johnson again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Ok.... Look at it from a different perspective, if we had £30m would you spend it on baines if he played for another team? Given that he is more or less doing the job of a left winger (which we don't have doing a good job) as I said, I would be gutted to see him go. We could sell rodwell, I'm coming round to the idea more now he seems to have hit a wall in his development. Baines should be one of the players that we build a team around, problem is we don't have money... Yes I would try to, but i bet the other team wouldnt sell considering that between goals and assists he gets/creates 20 goals. Without this goals and assists this season we would be 10 places lower scrapping for our lives. Take into consideration that 750k per position (or so ive heard) thats 7.5m for 1 season. So although we might get 30m over a number of seasons, we would lose several due to dropping lower in the league (and ive no doubt we would without him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Yes I would try to, but i bet the other team wouldnt sell considering that between goals and assists he gets/creates 20 goals. Without this goals and assists this season we would be 10 places lower scrapping for our lives. Take into consideration that 750k per position (or so ive heard) thats 7.5m for 1 season. So although we might get 30m over a number of seasons, we would lose several due to dropping lower in the league (and ive no doubt we would without him). Problem being, the other team is unlikely to suffer the tight transfer restrictions we have and probably have 4 top quality strikers and wingers to choose from. In terms of selling players I would say: Billy>Anichebe>Heitinga>Arteta>Rodwell - Baines would be way down the list as he is class. But I think every player does have his price. Arteta i'm afraid seems to be a shadow of himself and I dont know if he is going to reach the heights he has done before. If Rodwell goes, then fingers crossed Ross Barkley can take his place and add more steel and attack minded play. Rodwell seems to have been stifled somewhat, I was expecting to see the odd 30 yard rocket, driving runs, ala Steven Gerrard when he made his impact. Instead Rodwell plays like Ray Wilkins and Jamie Redknapp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I read a stat that Baines was directly involved in 47% of all our goals this season...thats shocking yet incredible. Losing that would have us in shitcreek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) I read a stat that Baines was directly involved in 47% of all our goals this season...thats shocking yet incredible. Losing that would have us in shitcreek. I would be concerned that a LB was involved in 47% of our goals, firstly it shows how good Baines is and secondly it shows how much we lack creativity outside of him. I would be interested to see what that stat is post Peanuts... Good points made by all and £20 mill plus Bridge on paper sounds like a good deal given our current position, if we had financial stability i would be against this deal, like i would be against the rodwell deal, however we are not and we need 3 - 4 top players to help us move on up as we are being caught by the likes of Bolton, Villa etc... If Baines was to go for £20 mill plus Bridge it would not be the end of the world as we would receive a decent LB to replace him and it will allow Moyes to buy some creativity further up the field were it should be coming from, if you throw in Rodders and say Billy to the mix of sales thats c.£45 mill he would have to spend (if he is given all the funds) and surely that would be able to buy us the creativity and goal scorer that would mitigate the loss our best player this season? As pointed out in other posts Baines would not be top of anyones list of players to be sold but money talks and looking at the bigger picture this could benefit us long term? Edited May 3, 2011 by scouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I would be concerned that a LB was involved in 47% of our goals, firstly it shows how good Baines is and secondly it shows how much we lack creativity outside of him. I would be interested to see what that stat is post Peanuts... Good points made by all and £20 mill plus Bridge on paper sounds like a good deal given our current position, if we had financial stability i would be against this deal, like i would be against the rodwell deal, however we are not and we need 3 - 4 top players to help us move on up as we are being caught by the likes of Bolton, Villa etc... If Baines was to go for £20 mill plus Bridge it would not be the end of the world as we would receive a decent LB to replace him and it will allow Moyes to buy some creativity further up the field were it should be coming from, if you throw in Rodders and say Billy to the mix of sales thats c.£45 mill he would have to spend (if he is given all the funds) and surely that would be able to buy us the creativity and goal scorer that would mitigate the loss our best player this season? As pointed out in other posts Baines would not be top of anyones list of players to be sold but money talks and looking at the bigger picture this could benefit us long term? Bigger picture based on 47% of goals coming from or scored by him means relegation, that simple. What if the money doesnt buy replacements that create and score as often. Look at Bily - 10m for a few wonder goals and 1 or 2 decent games a season. Sorry, but under no circumstances would i sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Bigger picture based on 47% of goals coming from or scored by him means relegation, that simple. What if the money doesnt buy replacements that create and score as often. Look at Bily - 10m for a few wonder goals and 1 or 2 decent games a season. Sorry, but under no circumstances would i sell him. Based on what if's - what if we manage to replace him and bring in another Arteta, Cahill, Jags, Baines etc and it brings in more than the 47% of goals coming or scored? As I have said I am not advocating his sale by no means and the same arguments were projected when we sold Rooney and look what that did for the club! All I am saying is that I dont believe it would be the end of the world and lead to relegation if he was to be sold, thankfully we are not a 1 man team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Based on what if's - what if we manage to replace him and bring in another Arteta, Cahill, Jags, Baines etc and it brings in more than the 47% of goals coming or scored? As I have said I am not advocating his sale by no means and the same arguments were projected when we sold Rooney and look what that did for the club! All I am saying is that I dont believe it would be the end of the world and lead to relegation if he was to be sold, thankfully we are not a 1 man team. Neither Rooney nor Lescott provided nearly 50% of goals in their years at the club let alone in 1 season. I understand your point but dont think it applies here - Baines is more valuable than money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 If we did sell Baines and replaced him with a lb that ended up with the forward prowess of Tony Hibbert then we'd be relegated is that really worth 20-25 million quid? I dont fcuking think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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