Romey 1878 Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 I do not fuck Fellaini! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 ten, that reminded me of the Terry Tate adverts.. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6238953685626218421 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 I know you put that link but who was Terry Tate? American footballer im guessing? And was he in ENglish ads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 I think this is music to the ears of potential buyers. They would go through the org structure of our club and get rid of anyone who is are have proven their incompetency. The club will no doubt be looking for a scapegoat in all of this, they will be left reeling after the token victory of Fellaini signing has had it's flames dampened. The club is in need of wholesale change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 I'm not sure you get what I meant with my post. My point was that when the BU or it's supporters have accused the club of underhand tactics to disrupt their plans (i.e. releasing luvvy duvvy articles when protests are planned) they're said to be being paranoid. But people can throw those accusations at the BU til the cows come home and it's not paranoia at all. It works both ways. And just because no one thought we were a shambles off the pitch a year ago doesn't mean we weren't, it's just that now maybe the "the truth" has come out. And if the shambles that's been shown is the truth then I'm glad the BU has brought it to light. Ignorance is not bliss when it comes to the club I love. I agree with this. Im going to reserve my judgement on the emails for now until there is more evidence about whether they are real or not. Having said that, the fact that the club have supposedly announced they are making investigations doesnt sound good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2011/11/everton-suspend-ian-ross/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Savage Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 And the inevitable Blog appears from Mr E. I'm starting to pity him more than loathe his smugness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) I agree Bailey, if it wasnt true they would just come out and say they are not real and we will be pursuing legal action against those who have done this. The investigation speaks volumes to me. I also agree with Mark. Just because the media/press were not talking about the shambles of the club, does not mean it wasn't happening. We have seen enough over the last ten years, and i'm sure i'm not the only one who has wondered how its been kept so quiet over the last decade. I think Ross should be in trouble with the people above him, I cant see them giving him the bullet to be honest. EDIT: as i post this Ross is suspended. Edited November 18, 2011 by StevO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Goodbye Mr. Ross, it's about time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Savage Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Do you reckon this news would make a national rag by the morning? If so , can Bill use his Hickson story again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news//2011/11/18/everton-fc-s-ian-ross-expected-to-take-new-role-as-robert-elstone-releases-statement-condemning-individuals-who-published-emails-100252-29803082/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Doubt it, it's not very interesting to an outsider (or even some Evertonians) is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Savage Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 I see your point mate but it does show that not everything is Rosey in Saint Bill's garden. They still haven't denied the existence of these emails yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 It's funny because Robert Elstone describes them as "alleged" in his blog on the official site. Ian Ross says his personal account was hacked.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 PA have it on their wire now. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gT8u74kj3o6bL3Q9EYA7btzrgB9w?docId=N0742841321655073776A It'll be on many websites tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 I dont believe for one second Ross was about to move to a different role, I hope we dont see or hear from him again after this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 I do Steve, I think he was likely to move to the Everton in the Community side of things. As I've posted in the past, he was named as one of three directors for the new free school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 I do Steve, I think he was likely to move to the Everton in the Community side of things. As I've posted in the past, he was named as one of three directors for the new free school. Do you think they will keep him on after his suspension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Probably, I imagine he knows where the skeletons are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/11-12/comment/editorial/19673.html? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanchesterCity Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I completely disagree that this puts investors off. If anything it works the opposite way. It gives rise to opportunism and stronger bargaining (from the buyer). If there's internal turmoil, they can exploit it and drive down the price. However, internal turmoil can also mean that nobody's making good decisions and they'll let good opportunities slip out of spite or just incompetence. I think the situation suggested in the emails is typical of most clubs. There are rumours that Man City were living hand to mouth. There are rumours that Newcastle were paying contractors to do work at up to 4 times the standard rate (being fleeced basically) It's 'normal' in as much as football clubs have (and still are) generally being run incompetently. Ironically, but businessmen who OUGHT to know better. Sadly, when it comes to football, they get as caught up in it all the fans. Taking a 'gamble' with future earnings, banking on staying up, relying in a cup run etc etc. I can't imagine Everton are any worse than most. But I do believe it's probably as much a shambles as elsewhere too. I even know (inside info) of one club where a guy had simply put himself on the company car list and had had a new company YEARLY for the last 12 (from memory) years without it ever being checked. Only when KPMG came in to do an audit was this picked up on - amongst a number of other anomalies! Amateur businesses with professional money. It sounds harsh, but that's the reality of most clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Savage Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Just read the emails . Meh, not that damaging in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 I even know (inside info) of one club where a guy had simply put himself on the company car list and had had a new company YEARLY for the last 12 (from memory) years without it ever being checked. Was it someone who worked for the club, or a member of the public? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanchesterCity Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) Was it someone who worked for the club, or a member of the public? Oh it was an employee of a club. NOT Everton. We was sacked in the end, and rightly so, but symptomatic of how shoddily run many clubs can be when someone can just slip himself on the list and it not be question for YEARS! God knows what the Inland Revenue do in such circumstances - backdate him for a company car? Not sure, effectively it was a stolen vehicle so can they chase him for the tax? - interesting... but I digress! Edited November 24, 2011 by BlueSky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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