SimonButtle Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Moyes has come out today and said that Rodwell's return has been held up for a bit longer, Jack seems to have a touch of the injuries about him sadly, when back and fit should we maybe cut our losses with him in the summer and sell, we know there will be buyers and it would allow us to keep Felli and Barkley, and Baines without the threat of the bank looming over us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 I think we need to cut our losses with the people who bring players back from injury when they aren't fit to be honest. Rodwell and Coleman have suffered in this regard (did jags?) Anyhow, that's where I am with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 I think we need to cut our losses with the people who bring players back from injury when they aren't fit to be honest. Rodwell and Coleman have suffered in this regard (did jags?) Anyhow, that's where I am with it... Well yes, our backroom staff leave a lot to be desired i do agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) no we should keep the players we have and only sell if they want to leave. People commenting saying sell rodwell fellani etc to raise cash in the past, dont no a thing about this club and should no to well by now that selling players doesnt mean we will replace them dont mean you above either but to hear sell fellani on here makes me think alot of people dont actually go the game and watch match of the day to judge players. Edited February 10, 2012 by Blue4Ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 I don't understand "cut our losses" when he didn't cost us anything in the first places . If we were to sell it'd be pure profit wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 no we should keep the players we have and only sell if they want to leave. People commenting saying sell rodwell fellani etc to raise cash in the past, dont no a thing about this club and should no to well by now that selling players doesnt mean we will replace them dont mean you above either but to hear sell fellani on here makes me think alot of people dont actually go the game and watch match of the day to judge players. I was only offering the option, personally there are others id sell before Rodwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 If we were to sell it'd be pure profit wouldn't it? Indeed it would. For me Rodwell can go, he's not an amazing player and for the money that people are going to offer for him I don't see why Moyes has fought to keep hold of him. With the £20,000,000 or so that he will go for we could bring in decent players who could cover the cracks in our team not to mention that he is starting to get injury prone (the sooner teams find out about that we will be lucky to get £10,000,000 for him). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelouch Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Get rid, Moyes can easily buy 2-3 players if we sell him for that creative spark we need since we lost Arteta and Pienaar I'd happily get rid for that and possibly another striker for Jela. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 I don't understand "cut our losses" when he didn't cost us anything in the first places . If we were to sell it'd be pure profit wouldn't it? ok, maybe thats not the right title, what i meant was, maybe we are not seeing the best of him due to injuries, so should we just sell when we know we can get money, i was just trying to raise the idea, personally id sell others ahead of Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 ....personally id sell others ahead of Jack So would I . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftaylor Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Is it still his hammy thats causing him issues? Im not a physio but I would expect that to be a 100% preventable injury. If so someone should be making sure he gets treatment every day for that thing even when he isn't carrying a knock, otherwise he won't progress (and he hasn't). I remember a while ago he had a bit of a moan that Moyes wasn't giving him enough minutes and that as a developing player he needed time on the pitch. Bit ironic that he says that and doesn't keep himself healthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 A few people on here need to listen to a bit of take that - patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBlood81 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 IF we managed to get £20mil+ for him and IF we got to reinvest most of it then i'd take it in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelouch Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 A few people on here need to listen to a bit of take that - patience. Patience for what? He's very injury prone and if we can get 20 mil from him we'd be laughing. Moyes will fish more gems from the market to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) I would rather keep jack rather than get 4 shit lower league players in anyway. moyes might have got good players in for cheap in the past but imo how the transfer market has gone, we wont be getting anymore of them sort of players for cheap like the artetas pienaars etc.. we will have to train them from a young age like we have tryed with a few but that means time we need players in who can play now and I no they dont come cheap but 2 good players is better than 5 poor ones to fill the squad. bit off topic but watching us in the last 10 games ive never seen a team look so lost trying to score it really does make you think moyes has them practicing defending corners and freekicks all day, the way we attack teams. rant over now ha Edited February 10, 2012 by Blue4Ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 hasn't he had the same injury multiple times? i blame that on poor management..rushed back too quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Patience for what? He's very injury prone and if we can get 20 mil from him we'd be laughing. Moyes will fish more gems from the market to replace him. Don't think you can call him injury prone yet, he's hardly been around for 5minutes. He's still young and developing. He's got to be part of our future unless he gets his head turned. Anyway Gerrard's always been 'injury prone' hasn't he? Not done bad for that lot! Edited February 10, 2012 by c1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adziom Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 There's a reason Rodwell is touted as a potential £20 million player. He's been showing good signs of development throughout this season and I think its a bit soon to rule him out just because he's had a spate of injuries. Cleverley, Young, and now Phil Jones are going through a similar phase at Man Utd, and nobody's ruling out their careers, so lets just have some patience and wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Although He has not "yet" become the player He was and has been touted a big factor in that could be down to injuries and so on but do people seriously believe the money gained from his sale would be pumped back into the squad!? We would sell a good young English talent and get far less for him in his current state and not see a penny of it put back into the team. It's a no win situation in a sense as a supporter as we should be building around players such as Jack and Ross but don't have the funds to and if we sell such players it would be ploughed into debt payments and not the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickfitz Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 What if selling Rodwell, Barkley and Fellani would make the club death free but in limbo for a few years not been able to buy and having to use a lot of youth players due to small squad. Would that be better than the limbo we find ourself currently in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 No the only lure in selling players from the club's point of view is wiping out debt which is all well and good for their pockets but people would mask it saying it would attract a buyer but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't the obsession with buying clubs seems to have run dry. The chances are we would end up in a relagation dogfight and sooner or later will face the drop which would cripple this club and at a good chance permanently. I wouldn't say we are in limbo as such either we've gone abit stale if anything Moyes needs to freshen things up and play a different system/players be abit more positive and tactically astute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 What if selling Rodwell, Barkley and Fellani would make the club death free but in limbo for a few years not been able to buy and having to use a lot of youth players due to small squad. Would that be better than the limbo we find ourself currently in. Only if we don't get relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 no we should keep the players we have and only sell if they want to leave. People commenting saying sell rodwell fellani etc to raise cash in the past, dont no a thing about this club and should no to well by now that selling players doesnt mean we will replace them dont mean you above either but to hear sell fellani on here makes me think alot of people dont actually go the game and watch match of the day to judge players. Ive not missed a game this season, seen them all, either live on telli or afterwards. Ive been one of those saying that it would be worth it at 20 mil plus. Without replacing Rodders. Do I like the lad? Yes, do I think he is worth 20 mil plus? No I dont, I think that english players are crazy over rated. Value wise at least. 20 mil would get the banks off our backs, would make Everton more sellable. Thinking with your heart isnt always the best thing! I still would like to keep Jack tho, if possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 It'll be interesting to see how this Silva Junior lad looks. He's also a central midfield player and if he impresses and shows a bit more attacking flair than Rodwell has shown then it may tempt Moyes/Kenwright to sell if a good bid comes in. That's not to say I expect this lad to take over but he would certainly be competing for a similar position. With Gibson now in the side as well Rodwell may find himself dropping to the bench more often again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 With Gibson now in the side as well Rodwell may find himself dropping to the bench more often again. Not if Gibson keeps showing what he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Not if Gibson keeps showing what he has. agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adziom Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11671/7614565/Growing-concern-for-Rodwell Looks like we'll have to wait until at least next season to see what kind of player he can be at this rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Hmm, I wonder if playing him as soon as he shows signs of recovery will be having a difference? Give the kid a break, end his season now, get him on a beach for a couple of months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Be interesting to see how he uses him when Gibson returns, hopefully he'll rest him so he recovers properly.. On selling him due to club debt, I think the club will cash in on Fellaini before selling Rodders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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