MikeO Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 Just now, StevO said: Back to back away wins and someone is getting very excited. Consecutive Palfy, Romey 1878 and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 hours ago, MikeO said: Consecutive Welcome to my world Steve I would have said back to back, apologies if that doesn’t make you feel any better StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 15, 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2023 I'm not sure if this has already been posted in another thread, but I couldn't find it so here it is. https://www.theguardian.com/football/who-scored-blog/2023/nov/14/everton-relegation-table-sean-dyche-team duncanmckenzieismagic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 I had a feeling it would happen during the international break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 Suspended fine I'm guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said: So nothing happens because we appeal? Just keep appealing then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Matt said: So nothing happens because we appeal? Just keep appealing then The points deduction is immediate, despite the appeal. I was very confident we wouldn't get a points deduction because it just didn't make sense, this is absolutely disgusting. We have one charge and the maximum punishment is 12 points, so how is it proportionate to give a 10 point deduction? Wiggytop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/document/2023/11/17/49989e4e-01a2-44f9-a012-c3a31ae5536b/2023-11-17-Premier-League-v-Everton-FC-Decision-for-Publication.pdf Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt Posted November 17, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: The points deduction is immediate, despite the appeal. I was very confident we wouldn't get a points deduction because it just didn't make sense, this is absolutely disgusting. We have one charge and the maximum punishment is 12 points, so how is proportionate to give a 10 point deduction? I'm not worried about the season, I think this'll fuel an already emotive fan base even further. Europe here we come. Palfy, Wall Writer, Formby and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Louis said: https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/document/2023/11/17/49989e4e-01a2-44f9-a012-c3a31ae5536b/2023-11-17-Premier-League-v-Everton-FC-Decision-for-Publication.pdf Was wondering when you'd pop up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dunlopp9987 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 So somebody lay it out for me....how fucked are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt said: I'm not worried about the season, I think this'll fuel an already emotive fan base even further. Europe here we come. That's not the point, and I made no mention of being worried about the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 Just now, dunlopp9987 said: So somebody lay it out for me....how fucked are we? Not at all. I'm just angry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted November 17, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 Remember that time when the Snake 6 tried to destroy English football for their own gain and the media went to bat for them saying you can't punish the fans and then the PL basically did fuck all to punish them and handed them a tiny fine? Fuck the PL. Matt, duncanmckenzieismagic, MikeO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: That's not the point, and I made no mention of being worried about the season. Oh I know, I'm writing and reading in a rush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post badaids Posted November 17, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 What a disaster, this is really going to affect our ability to win the title this year. Formby, Newty82, StevO and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: So somebody lay it out for me....how fucked are we? Sanction relates to losses over a three-year period The Premier League referred Everton to an independent commission in March but did not reveal the specifics of the club's alleged breach. Everton posted financial losses for the fifth successive year in March after reporting a £44.7m deficit in 2021-22. Premier League clubs are permitted to lose £105m over a three-year period and Everton admitted to being in breach of the profit and sustainability rules (PSR) for the period ending 2021-22. Following a five-day hearing in October, the commission found in favour of the Premier League that Everton's losses during that period amounted to £124.5m. We're now 2 points from safety with 2/3rds of the season to play with confidence high in the team. A fine might've been worse! So not close to being fucked. Fucking livid though. Wiggytop and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: He’s literally twiddling his thumbs in that video. I’m not one to judge appearances but he doesn’t look like a Chong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Newty82 Posted November 17, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 Fuckin diabolical. Absolutely farce. How can they turn this round so quickly yet City, Chelsea and the rest crack on?! Anybody with just a smidge of footy knowledge will look at this and know its absolute bullshit. On the playing side. Fuck all yo worry about. These players have shown more character and togetherness than we've seen for years. This'll just light that fire even more. Romey 1878, Wiggytop, StevO and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 Couple of interesting points... The club supposedly were only £20mill over the 3 year limit. More interesting, we're supposedly being charged over interest payments on the new stadium. So, basically, if we'd decided not to progress as a club, we'd be OK Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 ...and there was the threat of an Independent Regulator coming into the Premier League. Coincidence? Or muscle flexing to show there's no need for an Independent Regulator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 The PL through it’s history have always tried to set examples by punishing what they consider are the smaller, weaker, and less favourable clubs, whilst the so called bigger and richer clubs never pay the penalty for their rule violations, even more so now with the threat of a breakaway super league should they punish the big boys and impede on their opportunities in this country and Europe. Thankfully we should be in a good position to recover from this and save our season, yet injuries to 2 or 3 players could be devastating for our survival. From the sounds of the Everton statement it would seem that we aren’t appealing against being guilty of breaking the FFP rules but the severity of the punishment for breaking those rules, if that’s the case then I sea our appeal falling on deaf here’s, and the likes of Leeds, Leicester, Southampton, Burnley ect lobbying the PL to make sure there is no reprieve. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Louis said: https://resources.premierleague.com/premierleague/document/2023/11/17/49989e4e-01a2-44f9-a012-c3a31ae5536b/2023-11-17-Premier-League-v-Everton-FC-Decision-for-Publication.pdf Thought these were interesting. 'For example, a deliberate cynical breach of the PSR to achieve a sporting advantage might increase culpability beyond that already arrived at by the extent of the breach. We do not think that this is such a case. Everton may have taken unwise risks, but it did so in the mistaken belief that it would achieve PSR compliance: it is not a case of a deliberate breach.' 'The Commission is satisfied that Everton’s PSR calculation in relation to 33 stadium interest was less than frank. The Premier League has made it clear that it makes no allegation of dishonesty. We consider, therefore, that Everton did not consciously intend to circumvent the Rules but there is no doubt that it failed to discharge the duty of utmost good faith imposed by B15. This is an aggravating factor that increases Everton’s culpability.' The ten point deduction is for being badly run. I think that will be reduced on appeal. The PLC may well be out to get us, and prove they have balls, but it once again shows how poorly we have been run since Moshiri took over. Colin Chong looks like a rabbit in headlines. I am hoping the club's lawyers won't be. Matt, StevO and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/13010266/explained-why-have-the-premier-league-deducted-everton-ten-points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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