Avinalaff Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 That's the first time I've seen Van Persies tackle. It's a lot worse than Shelvey's in my book. The guy has both feet off the ground and a stretched out leg charging towards the ball. No way is he in control, nor could he avert from collision had an ankle been there ~(imo). Should be off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Never a pen, I don't understand why he never got a yellow for it. Exactly what me and Josh were saying watching it...has to be one or the other. I'd like to see chucking yourself down in the penalty area punished with a red personally....or maybe a penalty at the other end? That'd soon stop it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Exactly what me and Josh were saying watching it...has to be one or the other. I'd like to see chucking yourself down in the penalty area punished with a red personally....or maybe a penalty at the other end? That'd soon stop it . There was mentions of an independent committee to deal with diving after Ivanovic. I think that would be the best route, give anyone caught diving or trying to con the ref in any other way a 3 game ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 That's the first time I've seen Van Persies tackle. It's a lot worse than Shelvey's in my book. The guy has both feet off the ground and a stretched out leg charging towards the ball. No way is he in control, nor could he avert from collision had an ankle been there ~(imo). Should be off. Initially yes but he slides into the challenge with one foot. Only a sending off when both feet leave the ground going into the challenge. Not a sending off no where near, well in control of himself and that shows because he gets to the ball before the Liverpool player does and there is no intent from RVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 The liverpool player goes in with his studs over the ball....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Can't believe people don't think shelvies was a sending off, as soon as you leave the ground with both feet going into a tackle its a red. It was a rush of blood to his head, you could see he was getting pumped up just before it after he was arguing with Ferdinand and then tried to take a quick free kick which failed. Occasion went to his head, could see it again when he tried blaming SAF when he was going off! He did get the ball but as soon as you leave the ground, you've gotta go pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 I'm well into my 40's so a bit rusty with the exact rules compared to those who still play, but what I will say is that any contentious fouls should come under scrutination by an official who specializes in that aspect, taking full advantage of modern technology. In a game that has millions of pounds at stake, it isn't right that players can be sent off wrongly, as the outcome can't be changed. It's fine referees admitting mistakes, but it's too late then. There should also be a deterrant for those players who wish to cheat, be it by feining injury, diving, handling, or assault. Once they know it will be reviewed on camera, they'll quit doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Can't believe people don't think shelvies was a sending off, as soon as you leave the ground with both feet going into a tackle its a red. It was a rush of blood to his head, you could see he was getting pumped up just before it after he was arguing with Ferdinand and then tried to take a quick free kick which failed. Occasion went to his head, could see it again when he tried blaming SAF when he was going off! He did get the ball but as soon as you leave the ground, you've gotta go By your instruction, the United player would have been sent off, as he was the one with both feet going into the tackle. I saw only one foot with Shelvey. There are enough video replays in this thread that display this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Who cares....we had a couple of goals ruled out the other night!.....Human error, it's what makes football heatbreaking, exciting and controvertsial.If we consult every incident durng a game with a 4th official a game could last 2hrs.Goal line cameras, penalty decisions, bad tackles, whos throw is it, was it a corner, did he racialy abuse a player, was the wall the correct distance away etc, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Who cares....we had a couple of goals ruled out the other night!.....Human error, it's what makes football heatbreaking, exciting and controvertsial.If we consult every incident durng a game with a 4th official a game could last 2hrs.Goal line cameras, penalty decisions, bad tackles, whos throw is it, was it a corner, did he racialy abuse a player, was the wall the correct distance away etc, etc Too easily corrupted. It's not just about the fans to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 By your instruction, the United player would have been sent off, as he was the one with both feet going into the tackle. I saw only one foot with Shelvey. There are enough video replays in this thread that display this. Watch the Van persie one again... his foot is off the ground, then when he goes into the tackle, its on the floor as he "slides" into the tackle... Shelvey jumped in and IMO was wound up and did something pretty stupid pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Also, here's a brilliant twitter account which takes the best comments off RAWK and posts them, love it! "It's over. It's Liverpool 1, Football Association 2. This is Europe, has Mr Alex Ferguson now bought European refs too A man like Rafa, who is at the cutting edge of football, will never be accepted by some people because they fear what they dont understand. I wish people would stop making out that Kenny Dalglish dragged LFC down and wasted a ton of money along the way. It just isn't true. Didn't deserve score line. And how shit was the referee..it just gets worse every fooking season [referring to a non-United game] I see Downing as a vital cog to our top-half aspirations. A true f**king winner in my book. top 3 of Borini, Dempsey and Suarez would be deadly, as they can play similar style to Barca top 3 players (Sanchez,Messi,Pedro) To me, following the biblical thing, Kenny Dalglish is, and always has been, Jesus McChrist." https://twitter.com/RAWK_Meltdown Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Watch the Van persie one again... his foot is off the ground, then when he goes into the tackle, its on the floor as he "slides" into the tackle... Shelvey jumped in and IMO was wound up and did something pretty stupid Had it been Barton he'd be in jail by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 gonna have to give up on this one, as soon as i saw this i new it was a red. The one screen shot of the tackle going round is very clever too as it shows the tackle just before shelvey brings his other leg into the tackle (in the scissor movement) which was way over the ball. Nobody seems to be taking into account that it was a young lad playing in a highly emotional game. You could see it coming as he was arguing with Ferdinand before the incident and then at the pace he was charging down their defenders he was either going run straight into Evans or Dive into a tackle and he chose option B. I think its clear the adrenaline went to his head, you could see it afterwards also, he was trying to fight the world when he was coming off the pitch. Like C said in the other thread, when you leave the ground its a Red. And no i'm not a "Bias Blue" i was acutally watching the game with 3 kopites at the time and was saying how they were by far the better team and how Utd really dont look like title contenders. I also gave them optimism that they could eventually break out of that dreaded relegation zone..... But as soon as i saw the challenge i knew it was a Red, and Shelvey was stupid because he had let himself get wound up. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 gonna have to give up on this one, as soon as i saw this i new it was a red. The one screen shot of the tackle going round is very clever too as it shows the tackle just before shelvey brings his other leg into the tackle (in the scissor movement) which was way over the ball. Nobody seems to be taking into account that it was a young lad playing in a highly emotional game. You could see it coming as he was arguing with Ferdinand before the incident and then at the pace he was charging down their defenders he was either going run straight into Evans or Dive into a tackle and he chose option B. I think its clear the adrenaline went to his head, you could see it afterwards also, he was trying to fight the world when he was coming off the pitch. Like C said in the other thread, when you leave the ground its a Red. And no i'm not a "Bias Blue" i was acutally watching the game with 3 kopites at the time and was saying how they were by far the better team and how Utd really dont look like title contenders. I also gave them optimism that they could eventually break out of that dreaded relegation zone..... But as soon as i saw the challenge i knew it was a Red, and Shelvey was stupid because he had let himself get wound up. Completely agree regarding the challenges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A3t1eyrCQAEGzSa.jpg:large Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 http://pbs.twimg.com...EGzSa.jpg:large Brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Kelvin MacKenzie wants an apology . http://www.bbc.co.uk...eyside-19727779 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 What a tit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 What a bellend! Has anyone noticed the amount of times the new S*n advert has been on? It's cropping up all over the place. I think they're worried that the whole Hillsborough "Truth"...has really shit on their image in the public domain. Which is good. I hope their reputation has been smeared. But just seeing how hard they're trying to rectify that, is quite laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Words fail me. People died that day as we all know and these people are treating it like a business case. Its shocking. pete0 and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Kelvin MacKenzie wants an apology . http://www.bbc.co.uk...eyside-19727779 Cameron in his speech put all the blame on the Yorkshire police, choosing his words wisely to avoid any connotation the government had in the whole affair. Pissed me off. On Mackenzie, to borrow Pete Price's favourite word, flabbergasted but not surprised. It's disgusting how they're all passing on the blame and not admitting their part, disgrace of a nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Some people are unbelievable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Some people are unbelievable! According to the radio he also wants "recompense" . The man's delusional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/sep/27/brendan-rodgers-liverpool-luis-suarez?newsfeed=true Is he for real??? I quite admired Rodgers before he took over at The Shite but he is already sounding like a true Kopite Gobshite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Er, if ref's read that (which they will) then they're going to give decisions less often. What a soft shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 I quite admired Rodgers before he took over at The Shite but he is already sounding like a true Kopite Gobshite Said the same thing the other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Against Leeds the other night (we didn't deserve to win) Anichebe was climbed all over by a Leeds defender, probably the worst piece of penalty area wrestling since Carrigher tride to pull Lescott out of the ground.......two blatent penalties, they happen every day in football........poor liverpool, why oh why can't we all just agree to give them exactly what they want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 It doesn't take long for the Artists to do their work ................... Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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