johnh Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Yup. I'm very happy that happened but it's not right. It's been happening (on a lesser scale) to the Liberals for my lifetime and longer but while the big parties benefit from the status quo it's not going to change. Turkeys voting for Christmas springs to mind. The big winners in the current structure are Labour, which is why the Tories want 'boundary changes'. Taking that into account, Labour were even bigger losers than appears. The Lib Dems vetoed the proposed boundary changes when in coalition so they may not come out of it too well. But it is almost certain to go ahead now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 The big winners in the current structure are Labour, which is why the Tories want 'boundary changes'. Taking that into account, Labour were even bigger losers than appears. The Lib Dems vetoed the proposed boundary changes when in coalition so they may not come out of it too well. But it is almost certain to go ahead now. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Our electoral system (from a couple of emails I've had today from organisations I belong to)... "The Tories gained 36% of a 67% voter turnout. This equates to roughly 20% of the electorate dictating policy to the other 80%." Not really. If one-third of the population chooses note to vote, they have absolutely no right to complain. Indeed, they should be dictated to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Not really. If one-third of the population chooses note to vote, they have absolutely no right to complain. Indeed, they should be dictated to. Fair enough; don't know how many can't be arsed to vote and how many make a conscious decision not to. But even ignoring all of them we have 36% of the (engaged) electorate running the country. Not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Not really. If one-third of the population chooses note to vote, they have absolutely no right to complain. Indeed, they should be dictated to.What happened to "the right to vote" and "freedom to choose"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 What happened to "the right to vote" and "freedom to choose"? I was waiting! Of course, everyone has the right not to vote. That's a basic freedom. However, by making that choice, don't you forfeit the right to complain if the outcome is over than you would like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 I was waiting! Of course, everyone has the right not to vote. That's a basic freedom. However, by making that choice, don't you forfeit the right to complain if the outcome is over than you would like? I moved abroad partly to avoid the disappointment of politics. I'll complain if and when I see something worth complaining about, even if I had voted and that party was in power. I can't complain that a party is in power, but thats not the point. I complain about the actions taken regardless of whether I support the party or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Very poor form, this. Risking this year's Christmas card, if you ask me.http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32697212 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Very poor form, this. Risking this year's Christmas card, if you ask me. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32697212 Ed Miliband deserves all he gets. Put personal ambition above family loyalty. David has been quite dignified over the years. I'm not a supporter of either but I don't think you can object to David sharing a bit of schadenfreude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Hilarious, but so predictable, that Farage's "resignation" lasted about ten minutes. "Unlike most politicians I keep my word!" Bullshit. Stage managed from the moment he lost in Thanet. Pleased personally, they might have found a leader who was a bit less of a laughing stock if he'd gone. Shot themselves in the foot I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 I see Andy Burnham has put his name in the hat for Labour leader. An Evertonian in number ten? Like the sound of that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 I see Andy Burnham has put his name in the hat for Labour leader. An Evertonian in number ten? Like the sound of that . I was hoping he'd have got it last time. About time there was at least one leader who knows what reality is like, and not some toff nosed knob who hasn't got a clue. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 This would make the Scottish Premier League a bit more marketable and entertaining . http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32736153 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 This would make the Scottish Premier League a bit more marketable and entertaining . http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32736153 that would be lovely. everton liverpool and celtic to battle it out for 1 champs league spot and a playoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 that would be lovely. everton liverpool and celtic to battle it out for 1 champs league spot and a playoff. Sorry to break it to you Mark but Manchester's above the red line also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) Sorry to break it to you Mark but Manchester's above the red line also. don't be sorry! my lack of english geography is not your fault! Man City, Man U, hull, everton, liverpool, newcastle, sunderland, and Boro if they make it up. I love it! Have the winner of the Northern league play the winner of the southern league and they are crowned champs of the island. Edited May 15, 2015 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 It's not unlike some entertainers threatening to leave for Canada whenever the Republicans win, or others threatening to leave for Texas when California pass yet another regulation. Mostly sore losers who will get over it with the passage of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 The polling companies who forecast the election results have completed a poll which asked the public how well the polling companies performed. 110% said they did well. Acknowledgements to Private Eye. MikeO and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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