MikeO Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Current Player of the Season standings... Romelu Lukaku...104 Gerard Deulofeu...102 Ross Barkley...65 Arouna Kone...48 Steven Naismith...45 Tim Howard...34 Brendon Galloway...21 Seamus Coleman...21 Gareth Barry...20 Joel Robles...18 John Stones...14 Tom Cleverley...10 Ramiro Funes Mori...10 Phil Jagielka...5 James McCarthy...2 Bryan Oviedo...2 Aaron Lennon...1 Previous MOTM winners... Aston Villa (H)...Gerard Deulofeu West Ham (A)...Gerard Deulofeu Sunderland (H)...Arouna Kone Norwich (H)...Joel Robles Arsenal (A)...Brendon Galloway Manchester United {H)...Romelu Lukaku Liverpool (H)...Romelu Lukaku West Brom (A)...Gerard Deulofeu Reading (A)...Ross Barkley Swansea (A)...Ross Barkley Chelsea (H)...Steven Naismith Tottenham (A)...Tim Howard Barnsley (A)...Gerard Deulofeu Manchester City (H)...Seamus Coleman Southampton (A)...Romelu Lukaku Watford (H)...Arouna Kone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Deloufeu first half. Unsure if I can pick over the 90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Well it's certainly not Roberto Martinez. I could smack him one right now. Elston Gunnn and efc1111 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Odd game , decent first half followed by a completely gutless second half . Based on the first half I think McCarthy just edged it ahead of Romelu, superb first touch for the goal, Lukaku Based on the second half they can all fuck off but I thought Galloway, Ross and Kone were particularly shite Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Even though he hobbled off early, had to go with James McCarthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 I went with McCarthy but he was the best of a bad lot today. Barry, Barkley, and Kone were all poor for me today. Roberto had a poor match as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Stones, because he had an alright game and made a couple of good blocks. Very upsetting game, I'm not sure why we completely allowed Bournemouth onto us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Stones, because he had an alright game and made a couple of good blocks. Very upsetting game, I'm not sure why we completely allowed Bournemouth onto us. One word answer ......... Roberto Even if it wasn't his game plan , we could all see it happening and he did absolutely nothing to change it Romey 1878 and Elston Gunnn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Here's what I'd like, but do not expect, Roberto to say: "Despite several wonderful goals and a pretty good first half, we didn't even deserve the point, honestly. I have to take full responsibility, as I held back too long on substitutions. I just didn't do well by our fans, today, so they have every right to be upset with our -- my -- second half. Bournemouth embarrassed us. I embarrassed myself." Here's what I expect: "We deserved three points today. Very unlucky not to have won this match. We could and should have scored perhaps 2 more goals. Very disappointing. Our play was sensational, a little more in the first half than the second. We just needed that little bit of luck today." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Here's what I'd like, but do not expect, Roberto to say: "Despite several wonderful goals and a pretty good first half, we didn't even deserve the point, honestly. I have to take full responsibility, as I held back too long on substitutions. I just didn't do well by our fans, today, so they have every right to be upset with our -- my -- second half. Bournemouth embarrassed us. I embarrassed myself." Here's what I expect: "We deserved three points today. Very unlucky not to have won this match. We could and should have scored perhaps 2 more goals. Very disappointing. Our play was sensational, a little more in the first half than the second. We just needed that little bit of luck today." Everton manager Roberto Martinez: "Our first-half performance was very good. We were in control, dominant and scored two goals. But in the second half we lost control, though you must expect the home side to come at you. "We lacked that instinct to put the game to bed. With a two-goal lead you feel very comfortable. After the equaliser we showed good character to score a third. But it was a massive, massive blow to concede so late in the game, and it's a feeling of dropping two points. "I don't know why the referee allowed play to continue for so long, but maybe it was luck for Bournemouth which they haven't had all season." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 First half and tie goal Barkley. But I missed the whole second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 First half and tie goal Barkley. But I missed the whole second half. I wish I had! Blue 250 and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 "Martinez, while disappointed, admitted the result must serve as a lesson for his players." I don't see anything in the report of his post-match comments where RM takes any responsibility whatsoever for his own shortcomings today re tactics and substitutions. Did Roberto learn any lessons today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 First half and tie goal Barkley. But I missed the whole second half. Barely noticed Ross in the first half, definitely one of his poorer games. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Barely noticed Ross in the first half, definitely one of his poorer games. He was the guy who put the ball perfectly in the box for Mori and for rom. Probably caught you off guard for a second, hits the first man so often you probably thought you'd changed the channel for a minute and it was Leicester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 He was the guy who put the ball perfectly in the box for Mori and for rom. Probably caught you off guard for a second, hits the first man so often you probably thought you'd changed the channel for a minute and it was Leicester. Second goal was a Deulofeu assist, so Ross (finally) took a decent corner. Doesn't warrant a stand-out half for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Second goal was a Deulofeu assist, so Ross (finally) took a decent corner. Doesn't warrant a stand-out half for me. Yeah I was talking about the corner where rom headed it but their keeper saved it. Was another solid kick by Ross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Yeah I was talking about the corner where rom headed it but their keeper saved it. Was another solid kick by Ross. So he put in two decent corners. Yay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Second goal was a Deulofeu assist, so Ross (finally) took a decent corner. Doesn't warrant a stand-out half for me. I wouldn't even say the corner for Mori's goal was decent tbh. It was one of those shitty floated corners with no pace on it. Mori made that a goal, he did all the work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Going for Stones as he seemed to be keeping them at bay for 75% of the game...and when it did turn for them o don't think he was to blame. Thought he was the closest we had to leading by example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 "Martinez, while disappointed, admitted the result must serve as a lesson for his players." I don't see anything in the report of his post-match comments where RM takes any responsibility whatsoever for his own shortcomings today re tactics and substitutions. Did Roberto learn any lessons today? Watching his interview I thought he questioned why the players came out and changed thier tactics for the second half. Which I agree with. I used to feel that once I crossed that white line that I was responsible from that point. Premiership players seem to he able to fall back on the manager to easily these days. I blame the players more than the manager for yesterday. Why didn't the fullback try harder to stop crosses coming into the box for example? Did the manager tell them not to? He should have made another sub earlier. But thats not the reason we let them back in for me. Our lack of intensity on the second half let them back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Watching his interview I thought he questioned why the players came out and changed thier tactics for the second half. Which I agree with. I used to feel that once I crossed that white line that I was responsible from that point. Premiership players seem to he able to fall back on the manager to easily these days. I blame the players more than the manager for yesterday. Why didn't the fullback try harder to stop crosses coming into the box for example? Did the manager tell them not to? He should have made another sub earlier. But thats not the reason we let them back in for me. Our lack of intensity on the second half let them back in. Tactics are the managers job they just do what they're told. If he didn't like it simply open your mouth and shout to them what you would like, simple as that. Dumb reason RM and obvious you're just trying to find an out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Barely noticed Ross in the first half, definitely one of his poorer games. My 9-year old said the same thing "Why is Barkley not doing anything in this match?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 My 9-year old said the same thing "Why is Barkley not doing anything in this match?" He had already gotten me 26 points for fantasy football, I told RM to tell him he could take it easy lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Tactics are the managers job they just do what they're told. If he didn't like it simply open your mouth and shout to them what you would like, simple as that. Dumb reason RM and obvious you're just trying to find an out. Cant agree mate. Manager may tell the players till he's blue in the face...if they don't perform then they need to take responsibility for thier performance as well. I don't think they played well in the second half. If they played well but got the tactics wrong then yes...but they didnt perform in the second half. Barkley was invisible. McCarthy was a massive blow. Full backs didn't defend crosses. Our attacking threat died. I think inexperience shone. The players thought they had already won. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Cant agree mate. Manager may tell the players till he's blue in the face...if they don't perform then they need to take responsibility for thier performance as well. I don't think they played well in the second half. If they played well but got the tactics wrong then yes...but they didnt perform in the second half. Barkley was invisible. McCarthy was a massive blow. Full backs didn't defend crosses. Our attacking threat died. I think inexperience shone. The players thought they had already won. Spot on. The last sentence in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Cant agree mate. Manager may tell the players till he's blue in the face...if they don't perform then they need to take responsibility for thier performance as well. I don't think they played well in the second half. If they played well but got the tactics wrong then yes...but they didnt perform in the second half. Barkley was invisible. McCarthy was a massive blow. Full backs didn't defend crosses. Our attacking threat died. I think inexperience shone. The players thought they had already won. Right that's not tactics that's effort. Tactics are how we lineup, the execution is up to the effort of the players. So yes talking about the same thing but calling it different things lol English what a language Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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