markjazzbassist Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Hearing rumors the US are considering hiring him for the national team. Klinnsman to soton and us gets RM. I'm not happy about the rumour but almost wonder if his philosophy and such would be better suited to a national team side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 It would be good for him, and you to think of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Yeah at first I was like hell no but the more I thought about it his major downfalls wouldn't matter. Fitness? The players come in fit from club sides. No defense? All the US plays now is defense and has for its life, we can't attack to save our lives. Stubbornness wouldn't be good, but his use of youngsters would be great. Should be interesting to see how this turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 I think anyone who doesn't constantly insult American soccer supporters, plays players in their natural positions, and has an actual soccer philosophy would be an improvement over Klinsman. And I think Roberto could bring all of that. He'll be annoyingly positive, but he'll have a tactical plan. Playing two CDM to protect the back four like he did with us might work out very well for the players we currently have. Bradley and Jones can sit and Nagbe/Bedoya/Pulisic/Johnson can bomb up the wings in the midfield. We don't have a guy even as good as Lukaku in hold up play (Bobby Wood probably the closest), so he'd have to sort that out. To be honest though, I don't think we have the technical ability yet to play Roberto's style. We are still best as a bunker and counter team. Our strengths are still organization, discipline, fitness and togetherness. Just like everyone else, I want that to change. But the change will come slowly. That style is at odds with what American fans love, but we, as a fan base, are getting a lot smarter about soccer. Just about every new fan that started watching the EPL in 2015-2016 loved Leceister City. LCFC bunkered and countered better than just about anyone and won the league. Atletico does it best and they went to the champions league final. It's a legitimate strategy. BTW, yesterday was the anniversary of Landon Donovan's goal against Algeria. Still gives me goosebumps. (And an example of a pacey counterattack!) markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 i agree completely keith. we are a defend and counter team, which is why JK insistence on playing attacking football pisses me off. If we just played Italian style park the bus and counter we'd be doing a lot better internationally. We have no technicality, but we have top work rate and fitness and should play to our strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 i agree completely keith. we are a defend and counter team, which is why JK insistence on playing attacking football pisses me off. If we just played Italian style park the bus and counter we'd be doing a lot better internationally. We have no technicality, but we have top work rate and fitness and should play to our strengths. Mark, I think we agree on the US strengths. As much as I hate to say it, what do you think about a Klopp style press for the US? It requires a huge amount of fitness and effort--things the US can provide. I'm sure tactically, it is more complex than I can see, but I think that's another style that I'd support. (Obviously, no one can tell what Jurgen is trying to do) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Mark, I think we agree on the US strengths. As much as I hate to say it, what do you think about a Klopp style press for the US? It requires a huge amount of fitness and effort--things the US can provide. I'm sure tactically, it is more complex than I can see, but I think that's another style that I'd support. (Obviously, no one can tell what Jurgen is trying to do) Yes that could work. I hope they fire klinsi and give someone else 2 years before the next World Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Roberto is going to be England manager, nice guy and cup specialist. Perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 He's the new Belgium manager! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 He's the new Belgium manager! I'm absolutely shocked by that appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I wonder whether Kev will get a look in whilst Roberto is in charge... Or whether he'll start Lukaku in every game, but rarely play to his strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Haha Mirallas can kiss his international career goodbye until Martinez fails again. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Haha Mirallas can kiss his international career goodbye until Martinez fails again. I didn't even think about that. Mirallas will be fuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 He's the new Belgium manager! Didn't see that coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Wow.... Not sure what I'm more surprised by..martinez getting the job or Louis being upto date...how long was I gone?! MikeO and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I'm shocked!!! Absolutely shocked! Belgium could have done so much better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.... We had an application from Rudi Garcia. RUDI GARCIA. And they picked Roberto Martinez. Classic Royal Belgian FA. Fuck me. 10/10. No trophies with the golden generation then, good to know in advance. Edited August 3, 2016 by Mirallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Not too thrilled then mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 I bet he's looked into kone's family tree to see if there is any links to Belgium!!!!! Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Kev's reaction would be to jump off the nearest high rise building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) Statement from the Royal Belgian FA: The RBFA is pleased and proud to have found a manager of this caliber on such a short term for our national team. After having made a shortlist of the most interesting profiles, the choice for Roberto Martinez has followed swiftly. Roberto Martinez has already made known that he's honored to be able to work with such a talented group of players. RBFA Logic: hmmmm let's see we have 40 applications.... Marcello Lippi... Rudi Garcia... Roberto Martinez.... Let's Google Roberto Martinez... Google: 'Did you mean Roberto Mancini' <clicks Riberto Mancini> "Ooh wow, this guy won the Premier League with Machester City, three times Serie A with Inter Milan, a few cups as well. SIGN THIS MAN NOW! Edited August 3, 2016 by Mirallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Statement from the Royal Belgian FA: His first words were "I'll win you the World Cup" weren't they? Mogsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Lukaku and mirallas deep in conversation at the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 His first words were "I'll win you the World Cup" weren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Say what you want about him...he knows how to talk himself into good jobs! Unbelievable. How can he land this job?! Surely there were more creditable candidates out there? Never the less, good luck to him. Maybe international footy will be his 'ting?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 What the actual fuck? Wow. I thought he was going to be coaching in some lower European league turns out he gets a better job. Dude must be amazing in interviews. Lol on the mirallas comments. And the rom reaction, well that's just comical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Unbelievable that he's landed such a decent job so soon.... I'm glad we got big Sam now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 As much as he was a walking/talking fuck up at Everton, I genuinely believe his style and philosophy i smore suited to international games. They're much more open. I actually think he'll do alright. His problem is, he's got history with Rom and Kev, so they may cause some unrest in the dressing room, irrelevant of what Roberto does. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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