MikeO Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: That's a shame. In as much that it means that Starmer stays I agree, but Angela Rayner would've resigned as well which I'd not have been happy about. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, MikeO said: In as much that it means that Starmer stays I agree, but Angela Rayner would've resigned as well which I'd not have been happy about. There's a high profile vacancy at his true home, I think he should apply. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 The rats who jumped ship claiming ethical reasons now scrambling for the top job. Disgusting. Romey 1878 and MikeO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 Just heard on LBC that a journo has tweeted that Johnson plans to stand down on Monday....and put himself up in the leadership election. Very much unconfirmed of course. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 09/07/2022 at 15:01, MikeO said: Just heard on LBC that a journo has tweeted that Johnson plans to stand down on Monday....and put himself up in the leadership election. Very much unconfirmed of course. I was ill informed Kemi Badenoch looks like an interesting late outsider for me, she was so nowhere that oddschecker didn't have a price for her when the candidates were announced, they only listed the other seven; now she's listed and 4th favourite. I don't agree with her politics at all reading up on her, but then I don't agree with the politics of any of them (Suella Braverman, in particular, manages to even outdo Priti Patel in the Cruella de Vil clone contest). She does come over as honest and sincere though, which is a very rare trait in a Tory politician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 46 minutes ago, MikeO said: I was ill informed Kemi Badenoch looks like an interesting late outsider for me, she was so nowhere that oddschecker didn't have a price for her when the candidates were announced, they only listed the other seven; now she's listed and 4th favourite. I don't agree with her politics at all reading up on her, but then I don't agree with the politics of any of them (Suella Braverman, in particular, manages to even outdo Priti Patel in the Cruella de Vil clone contest). She does come over as honest and sincere though, which is a very rare trait in a Tory politician. I very much doubt the Tory members will vote for a black woman. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I very much doubt the Tory members will vote for a black woman. There is that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, MikeO said: I was ill informed Kemi Badenoch looks like an interesting late outsider for me, she was so nowhere that oddschecker didn't have a price for her when the candidates were announced, they only listed the other seven; now she's listed and 4th favourite. I don't agree with her politics at all reading up on her, but then I don't agree with the politics of any of them (Suella Braverman, in particular, manages to even outdo Priti Patel in the Cruella de Vil clone contest). She does come over as honest and sincere though, which is a very rare trait in a Tory politician. I think Starmer should throw his hat in the ring he’d probably win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 StevO, Palfy, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 15, 2022 Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 Tom Tugendhat would get my vote, if I had one, on the basis that all five candidates were asked in the Channel 4 debate just now if Boris Johnson was an honest person; a yes or no answer requested. The first four waffled and he said, "no". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 15, 2022 Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 57 minutes ago, MikeO said: Tom Tugendhat would get my vote.. Won that debate by a country mile imo, but he won't get to the final two sadly. Sunak was the very definition of smug, Truss nervy lightweight, Morduant a Thatcher look/soundalike and Badenoch honest but unpleasantly right wing...for my taste obviously. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 15, 2022 Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, MikeO said: Won that debate by a country mile imo, but he won't get to the final two sadly. Sunak was the very definition of smug, Truss nervy lightweight, Morduant a Thatcher look/soundalike and Badenoch honest but unpleasantly right wing...for my taste obviously. Sunak is so dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 15, 2022 Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 Public agree with me for once, sadly the election will be decided by Tories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 15, 2022 Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 2 hours ago, MikeO said: Won that debate by a country mile imo, but he won't get to the final two sadly. Sunak was the very definition of smug, Truss nervy lightweight, Morduant a Thatcher look/soundalike and Badenoch honest but unpleasantly right wing...for my taste obviously. I was impressed by Tugenhat. I have seen him a few times in the select committee meetings and you can see that he has a grip of the facts and isn't just repeating the same tired slogans or saying things for effect. Truss and Mordaunt were terrible. I thought Badenoch came across as a real person who wasn't afraid to say it how it is but not really on top of the detail. Sunak is a tough one because I think he is a cut above the three mentioned in the paragraph above but he is slimey. Whilst miles behind Tugenhat, Sunak is the best worst option after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 15, 2022 Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bailey said: Whilst miles behind Tugenhat, Sunak is the best worst option after him. Sad state of affairs when the next PM will be the least worst option (or best in your view). General election needed. Matt and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 15, 2022 Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 I didn’t watch it I can’t think of anything worse than watching a bunch of Tories trying to out do each other, it must have been like watching a bunch of pricks becoming even a bigger bunch of pricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 We're fucked whoever wins. Not one of them will make life any better for normal people. Matt and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 15/07/2022 at 22:23, MikeO said: Public agree with me for once, sadly the election will be decided by Tories. He’s been knocked out of race, obviously the Tories still don’t care about public opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 15/07/2022 at 23:52, Bailey said: I was impressed by Tugenhat. I have seen him a few times in the select committee meetings and you can see that he has a grip of the facts and isn't just repeating the same tired slogans or saying things for effect. Truss and Mordaunt were terrible. I thought Badenoch came across as a real person who wasn't afraid to say it how it is but not really on top of the detail. Sunak is a tough one because I think he is a cut above the three mentioned in the paragraph above but he is slimey. Whilst miles behind Tugenhat, Sunak is the best worst option after him. As a Tory aren’t you embarrassed with the government front and back benchers, not just because of the fuck ups of the last 6 years, but now they just got rid of Tugenhat and kept Truss in the running, Jesus what sort cocaine are they taking in the Tory wet area’s crack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Palfy said: He’s been knocked out of race, obviously the Tories still don’t care about public opinion. Inevitable, he's a very rare beast, a Tory who actually cares about people who aren't "ABC1's". Chris Patten was the last notable one I can remember, though quite how they ended up in the nasty party is a bit of a mystery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 15 hours ago, MikeO said: Inevitable, he's a very rare beast, a Tory who actually cares about people who aren't "ABC1s". Chris Patten was the last notable one I can remember, though quite how they ended up in the nasty party is a bit of a mystery. And Ken Clarke I always thought with him it was more about the country than the party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Palfy said: As a Tory aren’t you embarrassed with the government front and back benchers, not just because of the fuck ups of the last 6 years, but now they just got rid of Tugenhat and kept Truss in the running, Jesus what sort cocaine are they taking in the Tory wet area’s crack? I might generally hold more conservative views over any other main party, I am by no means a hard line right wing Tory. I couldn't agree more. They are too busy thinking about their own prospects than looking at what the individuals are offering. The people I like in the party are slowly being sidelined or cast aside. There is no-one left in this contest that I would support and the cabinet has been like that for a while. I cant see how they could win an election at the moment. I thought the same with Labour under Corbyn where great politicians like Yvette Cooper were cast out for a shadow cabinet of complete idiots. I know a lot wont agree, but I do feel like Labour is now starting to promote the right people again. British politics needs a massive shake up because it is in a right mess. Matt and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 18, 2022 Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 49 minutes ago, Bailey said: I might generally hold more conservative views over any other main party, I am by no means a hard line right wing Tory. I couldn't agree more. They are too busy thinking about their own prospects than looking at what the individuals are offering. The people I like in the party are slowly being sidelined or cast aside. There is no-one left in this contest that I would support and the cabinet has been like that for a while. I cant see how they could win an election at the moment. I thought the same with Labour under Corbyn where great politicians like Yvette Cooper were cast out for a shadow cabinet of complete idiots. I know a lot wont agree, but I do feel like Labour is now starting to promote the right people again. British politics needs a massive shake up because it is in a right mess. I don’t think there’s any party that could form a credible government at the moment, I thought the Tories were offered a 2nd chance to get it right but just wasted it. Being as you are the only Tory on here I know who regularly posts I thought it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on what’s happening within the Tory party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 19, 2022 Report Share Posted July 19, 2022 17 hours ago, Palfy said: I don’t think there’s any party that could form a credible government at the moment, I thought the Tories were offered a 2nd chance to get it right but just wasted it. Being as you are the only Tory on here I know who regularly posts I thought it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on what’s happening within the Tory party. It seems like all they are interested in is point scoring. I am sure there is a lot more that goes on behind the scenes (good and bad) but I am not convinced that there are many front line politicians that really care about whats right for the country. Its more about whoever is lining their pockets. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 I am utterly bemused by what the Tory rank and file see in Penny Mordaunt. I undertand that you don't have to appeal to every social demographic to get elected, but outside the Tory shires, who the hell would feel she represents them? Utterly lacking in charisma, ineffectual, just bland, blue wallpaper. Liz Truss? Mordaunt-lite, slightly less irritating as she appears earnest, but it's all bluff. Equally incompetent - like her former boss. Sunak I can slightly get - the suit fits, at least - comes across all preppy and serious and confident in that Tory born to rule way - but hardly our Obama. Peter Hitchen made a fascinating point some years ago (and I paraphrase as I can't find it - maybe in an interview with Owen Jones) about the Tory party no longer being a 'conservative' party but a vehicle for maintaining power for the sons and daughters of a wealthy elite. The more you see of them, the more you realise it is true. The whole political class has failed. Too many people operating in a bubble for their own or their own party's ends. Shabby disgrace. Bailey, Romey 1878, MikeO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bailey Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 The thought of Liz Truss potentially being PM is almost as bad as the thought of Boris staying on. Yet more completely incompetent leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 52 minutes ago, Bailey said: The thought of Liz Truss potentially being PM is almost as bad as the thought of Boris staying on. Yet more completely incompetent leadership. She has the gravitas of a new-born kitten in the headlight of a Harley Davidson, the only things she has in her favour (for me) are that... 1. She's not Sunak. 2. She waves her hands around a lot (I suspect she thinks that it portrays gravitas). 3. In two years (possibly less, prospect of civil unrest is very real I think) the tories will be unelectable. 4. Her name sounds like trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 20, 2022 Report Share Posted July 20, 2022 Not sure how you can go from being a Lib Dem to a Conservative, like Truss has done. Shows that she has nothing that she truly believes in. Puppet Prime Minister incoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 46 minutes ago, RPG said: Not only that, she has gone from the Remain camp to the Leave camp as well. Chap in your avatar was a Tory MP, "crossed the floor" to become a Liberal for twenty years, then changed his mind again and went back; just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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