duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 https://www.goodisonnews.com/2022/01/09/everton-want-to-sign-bournemouth-defender-lloyd-kelly/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.goodisonnews.com/2022/01/09/everton-want-to-sign-bournemouth-defender-lloyd-kelly/ Centre backs need to be 6 foot plus, small centre backs are a waste of time we need people who can win the ball in the air. at the moment we are being destroyed on crosses there’s only Keane who can head a ball, I have serious concerns for Godfrey to become a centre back he can’t head a ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, patto said: Centre backs need to be 6 foot plus, small centre backs are a waste of time Fabio Cannavaro AlbanyNYToffee and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, c1982 said: Fabio Cannavaro The game has progressed since he played in the prem. if you look at the top 6 most have big centre backs the game is changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 27 minutes ago, patto said: The game has progressed since he played in the prem. if you look at the top 6 most have big centre backs the game is changing. I would think the opposite is true nowadays, as there's more focus on possession and every player on the pitch being able to play with the ball at your feet. Less of a need for those big, lumbering center backs. MikeO and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 41 minutes ago, patto said: The game has progressed since he played in the prem. if you look at the top 6 most have big centre backs the game is changing. He never played in the Prem - pretty sure he’d have been okay and probably been one of the best players in the world in this era too. I do get what you’re saying - I prefer taller centre backs but it’s not everything - positioning/reading the game can be just as effective if not more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: I would think the opposite is true nowadays, as there's more focus on possession and every player on the pitch being able to play with the ball at your feet. Less of a need for those big, lumbering center backs. It’s ok having possession but you still have to defend free kicks and corners. City Liverpool I’d say no one has more possession but they don’t have small centre backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 09/01/2022 at 11:29, patto said: It’s ok having possession but you still have to defend free kicks and corners. City Liverpool I’d say no one has more possession but they don’t have small centre backs. Your point is well taken but height is not the best determinant of aerial prowess/defending. Those two traits are jumping ability and aggression. Us blues should know as Tim Cahill was a legend. Give me a 5'10 pitbull over 6'2 poodle every day of the weekday. We lost seemingly every set piece against Hull and I guarantee you we were the taller side. dunlopp9987, Matt and Shukes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: Your point is well taken but height is not the best determinant of aerial prowess/defending. Those two traits are jumping ability and aggression. Us blues should know as Tim Cahill was a legend. Give me a 5'10 pitbull over 6'2 poodle every day of the weekday. We lost seemingly every set piece against Hull and I guarantee you we were the taller side. No way where we the taller side there’s only Keane in that team who was over 6 feet tall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 17 hours ago, patto said: No way where we the taller side there’s only Keane in that team who was over 6 feet tall Sorry but had to find out for sure. Turns out we're both right haha. They absolutely had bigger players than us but our average was a lot better as they had the 3 smallest players on the pitch. I forgot how big of a pain in the arse Eaves was in the air. Hull starting outfield players: McLoughlin (6'3) Eaves (6'3) Bernard (6'2) Greaves (6'1) Smallwood (5'11) Docherty (5'10) Smith (5'10) Williams (5'8) Honeyman (5'8) Lewis-Potter (5'7) Everton starting outfield players: Keane (6'2) Gomes (6'2) Rondon (6'2) Godfrey (6'0) Gordon (6'0) Mykolenko (5'11) Gray (5'11) Coleman (5'10) Kenny (5'9) Allan (5'9) Last point on height though and this exercise helps solidify. Would anyone on this forum have guessed Keane Gomes and Rondon were the same height? Keane's best attribute is his aerial defending while I wouldn't trust Gomes or Rondon to win a header against my grandma. Also sorry for the imperial measuring system. The USA is dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: Also sorry for the imperial measuring system. The USA is dumb. We still use a lot of imperial over here, we kind of semi embraced metric; vast majority of people would respond in feet/inches if you asked them how tall they are. Still use miles instead of km also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, MikeO said: We still use a lot of imperial over here, we kind of semi embraced metric; vast majority of people would respond in feet/inches if you asked them how tall they are. Still use miles instead of km also. Huh who knew? Thanks for that, good to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: Sorry but had to find out for sure. Turns out we're both right haha. They absolutely had bigger players than us but our average was a lot better as they had the 3 smallest players on the pitch. I forgot how big of a pain in the arse Eaves was in the air. Hull starting outfield players: McLoughlin (6'3) Eaves (6'3) Bernard (6'2) Greaves (6'1) Smallwood (5'11) Docherty (5'10) Smith (5'10) Williams (5'8) Honeyman (5'8) Lewis-Potter (5'7) Everton starting outfield players: Keane (6'2) Gomes (6'2) Rondon (6'2) Godfrey (6'0) Gordon (6'0) Mykolenko (5'11) Gray (5'11) Coleman (5'10) Kenny (5'9) Allan (5'9) Last point on height though and this exercise helps solidify. Would anyone on this forum have guessed Keane Gomes and Rondon were the same height? Keane's best attribute is his aerial defending while I wouldn't trust Gomes or Rondon to win a header against my grandma. Also sorry for the imperial measuring system. The USA is dumb. Haha it’s the only measuring system I know. I’m not having Gomez as 6ft 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, MikeO said: We still use a lot of imperial over here, we kind of semi embraced metric; vast majority of people would respond in feet/inches if you asked them how tall they are. Still use miles instead of km also. I've come back into it after 15 years away and I'm struggling. I've no idea what I am in feet and inches or stone and ounces... So archaic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 I think that if you do have a physical deficit in this league you need to have big positives in other areas of your game to make up for it. I watched this mad a couple of times last season and I didnt rate him. I would put Branthwaite ahead of him every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 How mad is he.? Bailey and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 46 minutes ago, Bill said: How mad is he.? Should fit perfectly in our team then! Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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