MikeO Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Unfortunately I doubt he'll even get close to retaining it. Assuming he re-signs for Brawn I don't think he'll be too far away....looking like Mercedes will invest big time and Ross Brawn's not known for pissing about in the middle of the pack. Think you're probably right that he won't win it again but he'll stay at the sharp end. Time will tell . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheeeeeedy Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Assuming he re-signs for Brawn I don't think he'll be too far away....looking like Mercedes will invest big time and Ross Brawn's not known for pissing about in the middle of the pack. Think you're probably right that he won't win it again but he'll stay at the sharp end. Time will tell . Im not so sure. I reckon the constructors that had their challenge fall off early this year moved to concentrate on next years cars early, whilst Brawn and Red Bull put their efforts into this years. Back to Ferrari/Mclaren dominance I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Back to Ferrari/Mclaren dominance I reckon. Which is where Jenson's going to be by the look of it.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8362295.stm He'll struggle to keep up with Hamilton I fear, do a much better job than Kovalainen though . Nice to have an all British driver line-up in a team at the sharp end. Confirmed... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8363892.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 http://www.clubcall.com/formula-1/mercedes-sign-former-world-champ-995729.html Schumacher is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Looking like Ferrari could be the team to beat after the first three days testing....although Red Bull didn't take part. Sauber fast surprisingly, quicker than Mercedes and McLaren. Renault, Williams and Torro Rosso struggling. They say not to read too much into it but it was plain last year from the first test that Brawn were quick. Scoring system changing this year...25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Schumacher is back. Looking very much an also-ran....seems he made big mistake coming back, he's not even the fastest driver in his team. Good race Sunday though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I think it's been a bit of a borefest tbh, very disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 F1 is a borefest. Watch the WRC or touring cars, much more exciting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I think it's been a bit of a borefest tbh, very disappointing. First one was for sure but Melbourne was much better. Lost interest in WRC because of the lack of British drivers....can't really get excited about something when I don't give a stuff who wins it. Problem with (British) touring cars is that the coverage is on ITV, and consequently shite. I'll still watch either if they're on (and I have control of the remote....which is a pretty rare occurance ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 First one was for sure but Melbourne was much better. Better yes, but still practically nil on the excitement level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohen Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I dunno, I quite enjoyed Melbourne. I thought it was worth getting up stupidly early for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Anyone seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t94NJXCL2SI There's a better version with commentary here but it's for UK users only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 That's scary . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Looks like something Dick Dastardly would have set up for Penelope Pitstop in the Compact Pussycat . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohen Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 I love that he attempts to steer it! ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 I managed to enjoy today's race . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Yeah...and Jenson's doing better that I thought he would. I know his wins have been down to good (and to an extent fortunate) choices but I really thought that once Hamilton got past Rosberg today he'd close him down. He's surprising a few I think . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Credit where credit is due. The team decided to change tyres on Hamilton's car but Button refused and told them he would stick with the ones he had at the time. It was HIS tactics that won him the race. If he had followed the team's ideas I think Hamilton would have won as he had a brilliant drive. Is it just me or does anyone else like to see Vettel lose??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Is it just me or does anyone else like to see Vettel lose??? I know what you mean, it's probably because he's German . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 I know what you mean, it's probably because he's German . For me it's more that he's an arrogant little shite. He was OK until last year, quite a nice lad but he's disappeared up his own arse since he got successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 For me it's more that he's an arrogant little shite. He was OK until last year, quite a nice lad but he's disappeared up his own arse since he got successful. I haven't seen any of his interviews to get the impression he's become arrogant. What a shame that's happened to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 That was a strange one today....notably the Red Bull crash. Strangest thing though is that there are two schools of thought on who was to blame. 1. Red Bull think it was Webber's fault. http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2010/5/10855.html 2. The rest of the civilized world think it was down to Vettel (which it obviously was). I'd be well pissed off if I was Webber, absolutely plain from that who the team favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohen Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Definitely Vettel's fault. Webber gave him a car width, which should have been enough, he wanted more and expected Webber to give it him. Don't know if you saw the Press-Conference afterwards, whilst Button was talking Webber and Hamilton were having their own conversation which had a few obvious hand movements where Vettel is the left hand and Webber is the right.Let's just say Webber shunted his left hand hard into his right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraccerC Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 no question vettel went into him, but it was a bit of both i think...as was pointed out button and hamilton showed how team work should be when they came together...the team comes first and rather than risk something like vettel and webber when they touched button eased off and gave hamilton the room to pass. i dont like lewis, much more of a jenson fan, and obviously wanted a button win...but had to respect the move, it made sense...webber could have given vettel more space, vettel came across too early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Vettel had all the space in the world, how Webber was supposed to get out of the way of Vettel all of a sudden violently veering right is beyond me. It's not like Vettel was easing right or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Vettel had all the space in the world, how Webber was supposed to get out of the way of Vettel all of a sudden violently veering right is beyond me. It's not like Vettel was easing right or anything. It was just insane....all Vettel needed to do was to keep going straight and he had the inside line at the next corner and the lead. Madness....but very pleasing . Two (and a quarter) Union Jacks on the flagpoles at the end....though I'd have preferred the top two the other way round. Pleased that Button is mostly performing well so far though, not being blown away by Lewis as most experts thought he would be. Hamilton is certainly still fractionally faster when it comes down to raw speed (but then I think he's faster than anyone) but there's not much in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Madness....but very pleasing . Same here, I was actually laughing as I watched it happen. I think Red Bull should take a look at Vettel's actions after the crash before blaming Webber, the cameras showed him going up to members of his team and apologising, that says it all IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 We got a one/two in the Indianapolis 500 this week-end as well . Dario Franchitti and Dan Wheldon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I saw that on the news Mike, makes me wonder if Dario will ever get an F1 ride. He is pretty good. As for the Red Bull mess... I nearly coughed into my rompers at that one. Button and Hamilton showed how it should be done, and they were still on friendly terms after the race. Not sure what Webber and Vettel will be saying to each other in private, but I would love to be a fly on the wall over that one. I reckon Webber would wipe the floor with Vettel if he said the wrong thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I saw that on the news Mike, makes me wonder if Dario will ever get an F1 ride. He is pretty good. He's thirty-seven though Rube, and has as much money as the top F1 guys (Link) so it's not gonna happen. Not to mention a pretty special wife http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/thetoydepartment/judd.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Martin Brundle's analysis... "Vettel was close out of Turn 10 and into the slipstream of his team-mate heading at 200mph towards the obvious overtaking point of the 60mph Turn 12 hairpin. Webber instinctively defended and left an F1 car-sized gap at the side of the road on the dirty, unused part of the track. Vettel chose to take it and moved alongside and then slightly ahead. At this point the German either realised he would never stop in time, or he wanted to muscle and intimidate Webber across the road to ensure a better line into the hairpin. It was a deliberate move of the wheel from Vettel, not a slide under braking. Unsurprisingly, Webber never moved, contact was made, Vettel was out of the race and Webber's car was damaged. I spoke with Christian Horner and Helmut Marko of Red Bull immediately after the race. They asked how I called it on TV and I told them I said it was 100% Vettel's fault for swerving into Webber. They clearly disagreed and said that Webber should never have been squeezing his team-mate onto the dirty part of the race track when as a team they needed to be defending against the ever-present McLarens. There's some substance to that argument but the bottom line is that Vettel turning right into the side of Webber's car was not the right answer. He so nearly wiped him out for a second time in the run-off area at the hairpin, too. The team can't expect Webber to score three consecutive dominant pole positions and wipe the floor with all comers, including his team-mate, in the previous two races in Spain and Monaco and then suddenly turn all passive the first time Vettel makes a move on him. If Webber had lifted or moved over he may as well have just handed the world championship trophy to his team-mate and headed back to Australia. The problem Red Bull have is that it seems clear they favour their protégé Vettel to take the title over Webber, who is 11 years older. They can't claim to treat both drivers equally and then apparently favour one because the whole situation will implode between the two sides of the garage." Sounds pretty spo on to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 The thing is though Webber didn't squeeze Vettel, he just held his position, it wasn't him that moved. I think it's a disgrace the way Red Bull are treating Webber tbh, and it's going to cause problems - a bit like Alonso and Hamilton at McLaren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 The thing is though Webber didn't squeeze Vettel, he just held his position, it wasn't him that moved. I think it's a disgrace the way Red Bull are treating Webber tbh, and it's going to cause problems - a bit like Alonso and Hamilton at McLaren. I agree. Good blog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 i enjoyed that race a hell of a lot, thats how motor racing should be, just so entertaining. but the red bull team are absolute gob shites to be taking that stance! i think vettel should count himself lucky webber stayed in the race. if they would have both been walking back to the pits id expect to see it come to blows, and that little shit wouldnt stand a chance if webber got hold of him. vettel pulled a horrible move and fucked up the race for his whole team, webber done brilliant to still finish 3rd after that. webber should be asking serious questions of his team after all these comments, not the other way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iggy Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 i enjoyed that race a hell of a lot, thats how motor racing should be, just so entertaining. but the red bull team are absolute gob shites to be taking that stance! i think vettel should count himself lucky webber stayed in the race. if they would have both been walking back to the pits id expect to see it come to blows, and that little shit wouldnt stand a chance if webber got hold of him. vettel pulled a horrible move and fucked up the race for his whole team, webber done brilliant to still finish 3rd after that. webber should be asking serious questions of his team after all these comments, not the other way round. Sums it up for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Vettel comes across as one arrogant sod. Reminds me of another German racer in some ways on that score. Next year I am sure Webber will move on. (Perhaps replacing Massa at Ferrari?) If he does leave Red Bull, I hope he gets a good car wherever he ends up. Anyway they all earn massive wages so a little shunt like that should be pushed aside (no pun intended) Any of those drivers are wealthy enough to retire at any time and live in luxury for the rest of their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Webber has signed a new deal with Red Bull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iggy Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 I would have thought he might have delayed that decision until much later in the season given the teams response to the Vettel incident......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Exciting race today . Proof positive of team orders at Red Bull though (which no-one on the TV has yet pointed out). Vettel 4th and Webber 5th for the last 15/16 laps and the more Vettel slowed down (with a problem) the slower Webber (on new tyres) was able to go ....so much so that on the last lap Vettel went ten seconds slower than the fastest lap of the race while Webber went only two seconds faster than him to finish 1.4 seconds behind. Didn't think that was allowed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 Exciting race today . Definitely, I enjoyed it very much. After the first couple of races of being bored out of my mind and being quite worried about how the season would pan out it's improved massively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Quality performance from Webber today. Decent from Hamilton & Button but after recent events it was lovely to see Vettel suffer (and it's always nice to see Alonso screwed also....thanks to Nigel Mansell). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 I wanted Vettel to hit a wall and get no points because of the blatant favouritism shown by Red Bull once again. Wankers. Great race to watch though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 I wanted Vettel to hit a wall and get no points because of the blatant favouritism shown by Red Bull once again. He got lucky with the safety car or he'd have got none. I was concerned he was going to get fourth or fifth the way he came back at the end but Sutil did a great job holding him up for six or seven laps . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 I'm just glad that Webber got 1st even though that meant no English victory. And as Webber said over the radio once he'd won, "Not bad for a number 2" . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohen Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Webber is the only one who lives in England anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I would like Button to retain the title, but failing that I would like Webber to win it for the following reasons. Despite foreign ownership, Red Bull is a British team based in Britain (Just down the road from Silverstone as it happens) Red Bull is a private concern and hence a "small" team. And as already stated Mark Webber lives in Britain and comes across as a no compromise hard nosed nice guy, if such a thing sounds right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I would like Button to retain the title, but failing that I would like Webber to win it... I'd go along with that....though I'm warming to Hamilton having not liked him at all in the past so it wouldn't be the end of the world if he won it. Just not Vettel or Alonso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Vettel and Alonso? Dear Lord no never! Maybe with luck they will both be sacked and have to drive Ford transits for Matalan or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 16, 2010 Report Share Posted July 16, 2010 I'd go along with that....though I'm warming to Hamilton having not liked him at all in the past so it wouldn't be the end of the world if he won it. Just not Vettel or Alonso. Alonso is the biggest baby in F1, can't stand him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Post the Ferrari bullshit today.... $100,000 fine is a slap on the wrist....I wouldn't mind if they were honest about it but the post race Rob Smedley interview was one of the most excruciating things I've ever seen. Everyone knows he's lying, he knows that everyone knows he's lying, but he has to pretend. Aside from that a very tedious race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Having watched that unfold I have reached two conclusions. 1) Ferrari have too much political pull in F1. 2) Alonso is being pandered to by Ferrari. In my opinion, Massa is the only one to come out of this with any dignity at all, and even he has to admit to doing wrong by slowing down. I just wonder, it was so obviously done deliberately, did Massa do it so obviously as a kind of protest, in the hope that someone in the higher echelons of F1 would do something??? Said in one of the papers that now that F1 govening body has hit Ferrari with a fine, the world motorsport govening body is looking into the incident too. No results of this will be shown until the three week break after the next race. (Sorry I can't remember which paper it was as I 'borrowed' one in work.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Ferrari got away with it http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8964502.stm And they're going to "review the rule banning team orders." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Surprise surprise . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 Four races left and twenty-five points (ten in old money) covering the top five. The most exciting climax to a season ever possibly. I'm a big Jenson fan but he's got to be the outsider, and if it's not him I'd be quite happy for Webber to take it. Very tough one to call though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 (edited) Lets be honest, Button has been consistently average all season, thats why he's still around, but he's not done anything special to warrant retaining his title. I want Webber to win it. Edited September 26, 2010 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 You can be the best driver in the world but you'll still struggle if your car is not good enough, or set up properly. This season Button and Hamiltons car has always been second best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Vettel has to let Webber through here doesn't he? Or Red Bull are helping Alonso . Anyone watching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Vettel has to let Webber through here doesn't he? Or Red Bull are helping Alonso . Anyone watching? As if, Vettel's their number one no matter the standings. Wankers. I hope Vettel's engine blows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 As if, Vettel's their number one no matter the standings. Wankers. I hope Vettel's engine blows. Suspect you're right, and no matter how much I dislike Alonso a little piece of me hopes they lose it to him, would serve them right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Safety car now. Things could get interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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