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Unfortunately I doubt he'll even get close to retaining it.

Assuming he re-signs for Brawn I don't think he'll be too far away....looking like Mercedes will invest big time and Ross Brawn's not known for pissing about in the middle of the pack.

 

Think you're probably right that he won't win it again but he'll stay at the sharp end. Time will tell :) .

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Assuming he re-signs for Brawn I don't think he'll be too far away....looking like Mercedes will invest big time and Ross Brawn's not known for pissing about in the middle of the pack.

 

Think you're probably right that he won't win it again but he'll stay at the sharp end. Time will tell :) .

 

 

Im not so sure. I reckon the constructors that had their challenge fall off early this year moved to concentrate on next years cars early, whilst Brawn and Red Bull put their efforts into this years. Back to Ferrari/Mclaren dominance I reckon.

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Back to Ferrari/Mclaren dominance I reckon.

Which is where Jenson's going to be by the look of it....

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8362295.stm

 

He'll struggle to keep up with Hamilton I fear, do a much better job than Kovalainen though :) . Nice to have an all British driver line-up in a team at the sharp end.

 

Confirmed...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8363892.stm

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Looking like Ferrari could be the team to beat after the first three days testing....although Red Bull didn't take part. Sauber fast surprisingly, quicker than Mercedes and McLaren. Renault, Williams and Torro Rosso struggling.

 

They say not to read too much into it but it was plain last year from the first test that Brawn were quick.

 

Scoring system changing this year...25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1.

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I think it's been a bit of a borefest tbh, very disappointing.

First one was for sure but Melbourne was much better.

 

Lost interest in WRC because of the lack of British drivers....can't really get excited about something when I don't give a stuff who wins it. Problem with (British) touring cars is that the coverage is on ITV, and consequently shite.

 

I'll still watch either if they're on (and I have control of the remote....which is a pretty rare occurance :( ).

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Credit where credit is due. The team decided to change tyres on Hamilton's car but Button refused and told them he would stick with the ones he had at the time. It was HIS tactics that won him the race. If he had followed the team's ideas I think Hamilton would have won as he had a brilliant drive.

 

Is it just me or does anyone else like to see Vettel lose???

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That was a strange one today....notably the Red Bull crash.

 

Strangest thing though is that there are two schools of thought on who was to blame.

 

1. Red Bull think it was Webber's fault. http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2010/5/10855.html

 

2. The rest of the civilized world think it was down to Vettel (which it obviously was).

 

I'd be well pissed off if I was Webber, absolutely plain from that who the team favour.

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Definitely Vettel's fault. Webber gave him a car width, which should have been enough, he wanted more and expected Webber to give it him.

Don't know if you saw the Press-Conference afterwards, whilst Button was talking Webber and Hamilton were having their own conversation which had a few obvious hand movements where Vettel is the left hand and Webber is the right.Let's just say Webber shunted his left hand hard into his right.

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no question vettel went into him, but it was a bit of both i think...as was pointed out button and hamilton showed how team work should be when they came together...the team comes first and rather than risk something like vettel and webber when they touched button eased off and gave hamilton the room to pass. i dont like lewis, much more of a jenson fan, and obviously wanted a button win...but had to respect the move, it made sense...webber could have given vettel more space, vettel came across too early.

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Vettel had all the space in the world, how Webber was supposed to get out of the way of Vettel all of a sudden violently veering right is beyond me. It's not like Vettel was easing right or anything.

It was just insane....all Vettel needed to do was to keep going straight and he had the inside line at the next corner and the lead. Madness....but very pleasing :D .

Two (and a quarter) Union Jacks on the flagpoles at the end....though I'd have preferred the top two the other way round.

 

Pleased that Button is mostly performing well so far though, not being blown away by Lewis as most experts thought he would be. Hamilton is certainly still fractionally faster when it comes down to raw speed (but then I think he's faster than anyone) but there's not much in it.

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Madness....but very pleasing :D .

 

:lol:

 

Same here, I was actually laughing as I watched it happen.

 

I think Red Bull should take a look at Vettel's actions after the crash before blaming Webber, the cameras showed him going up to members of his team and apologising, that says it all IMO.

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I saw that on the news Mike, makes me wonder if Dario will ever get an F1 ride. He is pretty good.

 

As for the Red Bull mess... I nearly coughed into my rompers at that one.

 

Button and Hamilton showed how it should be done, and they were still on friendly terms after the race. Not sure what Webber and Vettel will be saying to each other in private, but I would love to be a fly on the wall over that one. I reckon Webber would wipe the floor with Vettel if he said the wrong thing.

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Martin Brundle's analysis...

 

"Vettel was close out of Turn 10 and into the slipstream of his team-mate heading at 200mph towards the obvious overtaking point of the 60mph Turn 12 hairpin.

 

Webber instinctively defended and left an F1 car-sized gap at the side of the road on the dirty, unused part of the track. Vettel chose to take it and moved alongside and then slightly ahead.

 

At this point the German either realised he would never stop in time, or he wanted to muscle and intimidate Webber across the road to ensure a better line into the hairpin.

 

It was a deliberate move of the wheel from Vettel, not a slide under braking.

 

Unsurprisingly, Webber never moved, contact was made, Vettel was out of the race and Webber's car was damaged.

 

I spoke with Christian Horner and Helmut Marko of Red Bull immediately after the race.

 

They asked how I called it on TV and I told them I said it was 100% Vettel's fault for swerving into Webber.

 

They clearly disagreed and said that Webber should never have been squeezing his team-mate onto the dirty part of the race track when as a team they needed to be defending against the ever-present McLarens.

 

There's some substance to that argument but the bottom line is that Vettel turning right into the side of Webber's car was not the right answer. He so nearly wiped him out for a second time in the run-off area at the hairpin, too.

 

The team can't expect Webber to score three consecutive dominant pole positions and wipe the floor with all comers, including his team-mate, in the previous two races in Spain and Monaco and then suddenly turn all passive the first time Vettel makes a move on him.

 

If Webber had lifted or moved over he may as well have just handed the world championship trophy to his team-mate and headed back to Australia.

 

The problem Red Bull have is that it seems clear they favour their protégé Vettel to take the title over Webber, who is 11 years older.

 

They can't claim to treat both drivers equally and then apparently favour one because the whole situation will implode between the two sides of the garage."

Sounds pretty spo on to me.

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The thing is though Webber didn't squeeze Vettel, he just held his position, it wasn't him that moved. I think it's a disgrace the way Red Bull are treating Webber tbh, and it's going to cause problems - a bit like Alonso and Hamilton at McLaren.

I agree.

 

Good blog.

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i enjoyed that race a hell of a lot, thats how motor racing should be, just so entertaining. but the red bull team are absolute gob shites to be taking that stance! i think vettel should count himself lucky webber stayed in the race. if they would have both been walking back to the pits id expect to see it come to blows, and that little shit wouldnt stand a chance if webber got hold of him.

vettel pulled a horrible move and fucked up the race for his whole team, webber done brilliant to still finish 3rd after that. webber should be asking serious questions of his team after all these comments, not the other way round.

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i enjoyed that race a hell of a lot, thats how motor racing should be, just so entertaining. but the red bull team are absolute gob shites to be taking that stance! i think vettel should count himself lucky webber stayed in the race. if they would have both been walking back to the pits id expect to see it come to blows, and that little shit wouldnt stand a chance if webber got hold of him.

vettel pulled a horrible move and fucked up the race for his whole team, webber done brilliant to still finish 3rd after that. webber should be asking serious questions of his team after all these comments, not the other way round.

 

Sums it up for me.

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Vettel comes across as one arrogant sod. Reminds me of another German racer in some ways on that score. Next year I am sure Webber will move on. (Perhaps replacing Massa at Ferrari?) If he does leave Red Bull, I hope he gets a good car wherever he ends up.

 

Anyway they all earn massive wages so a little shunt like that should be pushed aside (no pun intended) Any of those drivers are wealthy enough to retire at any time and live in luxury for the rest of their lives.

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Exciting race today :) .

 

Proof positive of team orders at Red Bull though (which no-one on the TV has yet pointed out).

 

Vettel 4th and Webber 5th for the last 15/16 laps and the more Vettel slowed down (with a problem) the slower Webber (on new tyres) was able to go :rolleyes: ....so much so that on the last lap Vettel went ten seconds slower than the fastest lap of the race while Webber went only two seconds faster than him to finish 1.4 seconds behind. Didn't think that was allowed :mellow: ?

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I wanted Vettel to hit a wall and get no points because of the blatant favouritism shown by Red Bull once again.

He got lucky with the safety car or he'd have got none. I was concerned he was going to get fourth or fifth the way he came back at the end but Sutil did a great job holding him up for six or seven laps :) .

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I would like Button to retain the title, but failing that I would like Webber to win it for the following reasons.

 

Despite foreign ownership, Red Bull is a British team based in Britain (Just down the road from Silverstone as it happens) Red Bull is a private concern and hence a "small" team. And as already stated Mark Webber lives in Britain and comes across as a no compromise hard nosed nice guy, if such a thing sounds right.

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I would like Button to retain the title, but failing that I would like Webber to win it...

I'd go along with that....though I'm warming to Hamilton having not liked him at all in the past so it wouldn't be the end of the world if he won it.

Just not Vettel or Alonso.

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Post the Ferrari bullshit today....

 

$100,000 fine is a slap on the wrist....I wouldn't mind if they were honest about it but the post race Rob Smedley interview was one of the most excruciating things I've ever seen.

 

Everyone knows he's lying, he knows that everyone knows he's lying, but he has to pretend.

 

Aside from that a very tedious race.

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Having watched that unfold I have reached two conclusions.

 

1) Ferrari have too much political pull in F1.

 

2) Alonso is being pandered to by Ferrari.

 

In my opinion, Massa is the only one to come out of this with any dignity at all, and even he has to admit to doing wrong by slowing down.

 

I just wonder, it was so obviously done deliberately, did Massa do it so obviously as a kind of protest, in the hope that someone in the higher echelons of F1 would do something???

 

Said in one of the papers that now that F1 govening body has hit Ferrari with a fine, the world motorsport govening body is looking into the incident too. No results of this will be shown until the three week break after the next race.

 

(Sorry I can't remember which paper it was as I 'borrowed' one in work.) :lol:

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Four races left and twenty-five points (ten in old money) covering the top five.

 

The most exciting climax to a season ever possibly.

 

I'm a big Jenson fan but he's got to be the outsider, and if it's not him I'd be quite happy for Webber to take it. Very tough one to call though.

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