Hafnia Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Agree with him, Ossie was the best Englishman on the pitch. Personally believe Baines would be next best. Also got a slight feeling of a reluctance from certain players to pass the ball to our players . I did notice that, mainly Mr Gerrard. Too often made the glory pass rather than ossie who dropped off his man to make himself available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I thought Osman was brilliant and it was probably one of the best midfield performances in an England shirt over the last 12 months. He wasnt spectacular but he actually surprised me with how good he was. Absolutely made up for him & a performance like that should definitely give him a chance of playing in the qualifiers. Baines too was very good and the pair of them linked up well, especially when Sterling moved to the left (because Ashley Young is the most selfish player on earth both in attack and in defence). I hate to say it but Gerrard was pretty good as well. Too many hollywood balls but his general play was the best I have seen from him in a while. Cahill, Shawcross, Hart & Sturridge all had nights to forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I'm surprised Shawcross chose to play for England, Wales have been interested in him for years and he was brought up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I'm surprised Shawcross chose to play for England, Wales have been interested in him for years and he was brought up there. Maybe he was afraid of being around Aaron Ramsey . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I'm surprised Shawcross chose to play for England, Wales have been interested in him for years and he was brought up there. The way he played last night, you can keep him mate! Mogsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I only found out the result about half an hour ago, and my initial response was one of genuine pleasure, I was quietly satisfied with that, and hats off to Sweden and all. The English have only beaten them once in all games since 1968 apparently, and even that was this summer in the Euro Finals. It seems Osman and Baines had good games despite the result, so pleased with them, but let's get them back for domestics where they really can be of proper use to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Dalz, we beat them on the 2 previous occasions we played them, and head to head, the stats show 8 wins, 7 losses, 9 draws. http://www.11v11.com/teams/england/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Sweden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I don't care what it says, that is misleading information damn it. You ask those Swedish people who participate on here, from 1968 to 2012 England didn't beat Sweden in a relevant fixture. Apart from that Euro game this summer, the last win for you was back in the 1960s. I'm sticking with that. I know my soccer statistics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I only found out the result about half an hour ago, and my initial response was one of genuine pleasure, I was quietly satisfied with that, and hats off to Sweden and all. The English have only beaten them once in all games since 1968 apparently, and even that was this summer in the Euro Finals. It seems Osman and Baines had good games despite the result, so pleased with them, but let's get them back for domestics where they really can be of proper use to us. I don't care what it says, that is misleading information damn it. You ask those Swedish people who participate on here, from 1968 to 2012 England didn't beat Sweden in a relevant fixture. Apart from that Euro game this summer, the last win for you was back in the 1960s. I'm sticking with that. I know my soccer statistics. Your claim was 'all games' was it not? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18181790 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/15709627 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Wenger is not stupid by any means. He emulated Chapman and Mee and Graham as the greatest Arsenal manager, and you only have to look at what he has done in North London since his arrival from Japan in 1996. Damn fine manager and very successful is the fact of the matter, OK they haven't won anything for 7 years but still continue to challenge and are always a threat or up there when honors are to be had. Wenger can also converse in five or six different languages, and that's something to be proud of France are a bigger and more successful soccer nation than Sweden. I can't see any room for debate on that. I only found out the result about half an hour ago, and my initial response was one of genuine pleasure, I was quietly satisfied with that, and hats off to Sweden and all. The English have only beaten them once in all games since 1968 apparently, and even that was this summer in the Euro Finals. It seems Osman and Baines had good games despite the result, so pleased with them, but let's get them back for domestics where they really can be of proper use to us. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 As Marco said in the shoutbox...Ossie keeps his place... http://www.thefa.com...ent-310113.aspx "Hodgson makes no real surprises with his choices, with Everton midfielder Leon Osmanretaining his place in the squad following an impressive debut against Sweden last November." Goalkeepers: Jack Butland, Joe Hart. Defenders: Leighton Baines, Gary Cahill, Ashley Cole, Phil Jagielka, Glen Johnson, Joleon Lescott, Chris Smalling, Kyle Walker. Midfielders: Michael Carrick, Tom Cleverley, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner,Leon Osman, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Theo Walcott, Jack Wilshere. Forwards: Jermain Defoe, Wayne Rooney, Daniel Sturridge, Daniel Welbeck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Smalling, AOC, and Welbeck all there because of who they play (sit on the bench) for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 full justified for ossie after the way he played for england..motm by all accounts...just hope he doesn't play the full 90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Played well for England, but has been shite for us lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Great that he is going to earn a cap against Brazil. He has played fantastic this year for Everton and didn't let himself down when he stood up to the international stage. I just hope that he can keep this momentum going and head to Rio next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 How ironic after one of his poorer spells in memory - hopefully this will get him going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 had a good season in general just looks fucked lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Well done Ossie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBlood81 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Well done Leon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 England manager Roy Hodgson says left-back Ashley Cole will start against Brazil at Wembley on Wednesday to earn his 100th international cap. Cole, 32, made his national team debut in March 2001 against Albania and will become the seventh England player to reach a century of appearances. "Ashley will definitely start the game," said Hodgson. "I'll have to see what to do with [fellow left-back] Leighton [baines], who has been doing very well." Bring him on as a sub after Ashley's had his token ten minutes I'd have thought...we want our strongest XI against Brazil! Get the ceremonial shit out of the way early and then look to win the thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 I found it laughable when Hodgson recently said that Baines and Cole were equals now. Baines has far surpassed Cole these days. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Phil McNulty (supposedly the man whose ring tone is Z Cars).... "Cole reaches his 100-cap landmark under greater pressure for his place than ever before after the emergence of Everton's outstanding defender Leighton Baines, who is now providing serious competition. The older man remains England manager Roy Hodgson's preferred choice. Baines offers a greater attacking threat with his brilliance at set-pieces and with his marauding left-flank runs but Cole offers greater security in defence. Cole also remains an attacking force, less so than Baines, but when experience is included in the full package of both players, the equation still favours the old champion over the contender." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodisonRoad Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 It's not even a contest between baines and cole anymore!! Baines has been by far the best LB this year!! Did anyone see how Cole got absolutely burned for pace by Sissoko the other day?? And he offers next to nothing going forward now a days. I'm not saying he is a bad full back, but I think this season he has showed he's pretty average and it's mainly down to his age I think. Baines has scored goals like the free kick at Newcastle and the one against West brom and still isn't considered the better LB?? It's a joke IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 I found it laughable when Hodgson recently said that Baines and Cole were equals now. Baines has far surpassed Cole these days. these days? Hes been the better player for at least 2.5 seasons. This "debate" still baffles me..... chicagoblue and GoodisonRoad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 these days? Hes been the better player for at least 2.5 seasons. This "debate" still baffles me..... I was being generous tbf. Hodgson is clearly another England manager who favours top 4 players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 I was being generous tbf. Hodgson is clearly another England manager who favours top 4 players. Ossie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Ossie? You're naming one player to disprove it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 You're naming one player to disprove it? Im naming 1 player ahead of the likes of Lampard, Barry, Carrick, Parker... I think after the Euros he realised that he needed to change things around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Im naming 1 player ahead of the likes of Lampard, Barry, Carrick, Parker... I think after the Euros he realised that he needed to change things around. So one player means he doesn't favour top 4 players... Right, ok then. Lets see how long Ossie gets tomorrow and how many other non-top 4 players get a look in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 So one player means he doesn't favour top 4 players... Right, ok then. Lets see how long Ossie gets tomorrow and how many other non-top 4 players get a look in. no, i didnt say that. I said Ossie being included, ahead of previous "top 4" players like those mentioned show he might be rethinking. those in blue are not top 4 players, the rest at least play for a top 4 team... Hart - top 4 and best English keeper who is fit, those in bold started games for Woy Johnson - not top 4 player, only Richards or Jenkinson? Terry / Cahill / Ferdinand / Lescott / Smalling - best English central defenders from the top 4 Jags, Shawcross, Caulker- arguably best English central defender not top 4, plus some talented youngsters. Cole - overrated but still top 4 player Baines, Bertrand - best LB in Europe plus a youngster, but not top 4 Ossie, Gerrard, Ox, Wilshere, Sterling - not top 4 players Young, Parker, Barry, Carrick, Milner, Lampard, Cleverly - "top 4" players Walcott, Sturridge, Crouch - not top 4 players Rooney, Defoe, Welbeck - top 4. Ok, team isnt picked for the friendly (which will be a worthless selection anyway) but people need to realise that Shite havent been a top 4 team for years and Arsenal have been slipping for the last 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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