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I don't want this to be a "Your not giving him a chance thread" so I honestly believe we will be poor next season a bit like a villa last year. But Martinez won't last the bad spell. I think because of the indifference towards the appointment ppl will be on his back very quick. If the total of his transfer dealings is Kone Alcaraz and even Redmond Then everyone will be there saying I told you so. I want him to prove me wrong a get us sixth but the stats don't lie and her relegated a team that Steve Bruce kept up. I am very nervous about next season and the quality of the players we are most linked with are average to poor

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I've seen no widespread indifference towards the appointment....much more excitement.

 

And again, yet another post/thread bemoaning the players we've been linked to by the press.

 

Get a grip people!!

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I would be very surprised if that was the case, he cost £2m to bring in and his staff will cost further compensation. If we were in danger of relegation, he'd be sacked but otherwise he'l be given time to build his own team.

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When he was being linked there was a massive swell of opinion stating how his win rate was very low. How he plays attractive football but not good enough defending

 

thats true but they failed to realise one important thing.

We already have a defense, one thats not going to forget how to defend overnight.

 

Really Martinez must be excited to be able to come into a team that has a solid defense already.

 

I honestly think this is the right guy for us. We needed a manager that will go for the jugular, and he plays attacking football.

 

I would also like to risk the wrath of a few here by saying....ahem cough!...Moyes was not the finished article until he came to us. Maybe BK had a big influence in how Davey boy progressed, and maybe he can bring RM along a bit too. I am hoping that we have made an appointment along the same lines as we did with DM. A manager that we are looking to stick with and build upon.

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Let's see how the season unfolds.

 

I think it will take a while before Martinez makes any significant changes to the way we play football. We don't need fixing. We just need better players. Our football has been sublime in periods, and no reason to change too much.

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Martinez to last one season, when Moyes was allowed 11 years in the end, to just continue on, and all that time, never being able to bring in that much elusive trophy ?

 

That said, Martinez getting a shock FA cup win this season with his previous club, Kenwright could be thrilled enough, and keep the Spaniard in charge until the return of Halleys Comet.

 

Let's put this into perspective. Seems to be two or three groups of people in this whole Martinez business, and damn knows, there's been enough threads about it.

 

Group One - Martinez is fucking gold dust. Best thing since the invention of the wheel. Will bring Everton the league championship, FA cup, League Cup, LDV Vans Trophy, and World Club Cup in Tokyo in his first year in charge, be manager of the season, they'll maybe build him a statue outside of Goodison Park in his honor. Will put together such a great and outstanding team, the side/s of 1967-71 will resemble eleven Mike Milligans, etc

 

Group Two - Martinez, while not everyone's choice, are curious to see what will occur, at and least allow a chance. Not expecting miracles or overnight success, but maybe an uprise in fortunes with at least the promise of some offensive play and a bit more attacking emphasis than before.

 

Group Three - an unmitigated disaster. A return to the second division for the first time since the mid-1950s is imminent. I'm very apprehensive about this appointment and have real bad instincts about this.

 

 

Have to be in the middle category here. For the last time, wasn't my first choice, ideally wanted someone else, but what's done is done. No sense in crying over what might have been. We'll allow him his chance, see what he can put together and take it from there.

 

If (and it is an if) he can deliver the clubs first trophy in what will be 19 overdue years next end of season, more power to him. Not expected it, but at least with a more attacking approach, and moving on from David Moyes often tentative bullshit philosophies, we at least have a chance to get at sides a bit more and really can make some progress that wasn't quite shown before.

 

Bottom line is, Martinez will be manager by end of year, and by end of season. The author of this is entitled to opinions though. Good enough.

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Not expected it, but at least with a more attacking approach, and moving on from David Moyes often tentative bullshit philosophies, we at least have a chance to get at sides a bit more and really can make some progress that wasn't quite shown before. by end of year, and by end season.

 

The more threads I read on this topic, the more I can see my clear hope for the coming season: Moyes achieved sixth place by trying to not lose; Martinez could achieve sixth place by trying to win. It's a big difference, because the latter strategy builds the momentum needed to break into the top four in future seasons.

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United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool.

 

After that, I don't see any other teams who are in our league, so it's kind of expected that we should 'at least' hit top 7.

 

Anything better is success, but anything less is a failure. I think both extremes are unlikely, so where does he go? Hiding to nothing.

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He will be gone by Xmas

Not so sure about that,i reckon he will last a bit longer. I don't think he's going to be with us longer than a couple of seasons though. Got to give the guy a chance.

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Have you suddenly turned into a WUM over-night? Your talking complete shit.

i knew who created the thread before I saw the name, just by the title. Not a WUM, just so pessimistic he makes Haf look like a barrel of sunshine.

 

Again, an utterly ludicrous post, Memma.

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Martinez to last one season, when Moyes was allowed 11 years in the end, to just continue on, and all that time, never being able to bring in that much elusive trophy ?

 

 

Are Everton really a club that can DEMAND titles? At best we can expect to be challenging for them but we cant really expect the club to win titles, there are so many clubs in England with better title claims than Everton.

 

Avin has listed 6 clubs with better title claims than Everton. Thats not really good odds to win a title. At the moment, all we can hope for is a cup and perhaps 4th place. If we could get either id be chuffed to bits.

 

I'd even be happy with a European League place. Get some money and European experience and keep building on that.

 

As for Memmaclub, Everton has not lost a single player good enough for the starting 11. How could a manager change your opinion on the team so much?

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I don't want this to be a "Your not giving him a chance thread" so I honestly believe we will be poor next season a bit like a villa last year. But Martinez won't last the bad spell. I think because of the indifference towards the appointment ppl will be on his back very quick. If the total of his transfer dealings is Kone Alcaraz and even Redmond Then everyone will be there saying I told you so. I want him to prove me wrong a get us sixth but the stats don't lie and her relegated a team that Steve Bruce kept up. I am very nervous about next season and the quality of the players we are most linked with are average to poor

 

Listen, I don't know you personally but if I may make an observation?

 

If you were around when DM got the job the same feelings of nervous trepidation were around then too. I put your comments down to being a little bit scared of the future. It is natural for real supporters to feel this way. Most of us do. But (and despite Martinez not being my choice either) I am willing to wait for the job to start before casting aspersions on his abilities, try taking a deep breath. Count to ten, and sit back and see what happens. We know how you feel, we feel it too. But all the cursing in the world will not bring DM back now.

 

RELAX before I kill you ... :rofl:

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What annoys me is the fact that people whinged and moaned about Moyes being the Everton manager and then continue to cry and whinge when we get somebody else. I've never seen a fan-base like it. Evertonians at time are a total embarrassment, constantly whinging and moaning rather than getting behind the people in charge. Martinez hasn't even managed a game for us yet and people want him to go - it's bizarre.

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What an absolute twat of a thread to start. I'll be critical as you like about things I'm able to be so based on facts, and I'll back them up and make them stand up. The worrying thing is you appear to be wanting to be proven right about something you have no clue about.

 

I'm sure some people spend more time behind their pc's following opinions rather than using their own mind to create their own. Martinez I think based on what I have seen will create a culture within the club of fearless expansive football. Will I be proven right? Yes I will and I look forward to memma holding his hands up at his premature negativity.

 

It's important to stay positive about things until proven otherwise, only then you can all try and outdo me for being such a miserable doom and gloom merchant.

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Stupid thread. We don't have the money to sack him and we wouldn't that's the case as it is. He will get his chance to prove himself. I can't say I'm his biggest supporter I don't trust Roberto Martinez I have no idea what to expect from him, in some ways he's exciting but I for god don't trust him with whatever money we have. 5 million for Kone 29 years old dreadful business absolutely poor business. Especially considering he said he didn't need to buy players from Wigan and we found explore other options looking at a broader market then what does he go and do goes straight back to Wigan for an overaged player who isn't going to bring down the age of our already ageing squad which is the 2nd oldest team in the premier league. Not impressed by his actions at the moment in terms of his transfer activity and targets. He has said some good things in his interview which can get fans exciting but actions speak louder than words we are yet to see any action yet but not impressed by the proposed signing of Kone not at all!

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Things could just click under Martinez, Coleman and Vic could keep getting better, Jellavic could start scoring, Baines might stay and have a great season with Pienaar, hell! the players might just enjoy a fresh approach.

 

Other teams might just slip up a tad.

 

Just wish the new man well and hold your nerve, that's what we did with Moyes.

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I could attest to a few things on this overall thread piece.

 

One or two may be pessimistic about Martinez' appointment, or with life in general. Can't dispute that. I'm no epitome of fucking joy and laughter myself but above all else, the thread title just bellows 'nonsense'. If Memmaclub had chosen a better (more appropriate / less belligerent) title, this wouldn't have instigated so much rage, ill-feeling and deridement. That's where the main issue rests. What was subsequently said was good enough.

 

Here's the general consensus on things, or at least, how I now see it.

 

I'm not expecting european soccer in Martinez' first season in charge.

I'm not expecting a relegation with Martinez' first season in charge.

I'm not expected great things, and as before, certainly don't expect - in that he won't - be fired by end of season at such an early stage in his next career path.

 

I expect a finish around the UEFA cup places, maybe 6th - 8th, and a better chance than we've had in years, to finally bring a domestic trophy back to Goodison Park since the 1994-95 season. Not setting sights too high, or by the same token, think Martinez will be an ultimate failure and have us scrapping away near the relegation places, back to how it was with Walker and Smith for example, although even Moyes was guilty of that for one or two seasons, despite all the other fine work he achieved.

 

Give Martinez a chance, is really end of discussion here. Wasn't first choice for many, but there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it now. We'll improve in the cup tournaments at least you would imagine than before and if Martinez can get the players playing and showing a bit more attacking endeavor, that many will hope for, and delivers a trophy we have lacked for so long, then he will have been a success. Moyes was never going to last forever.

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So in response to many of the comments this is an opinion based forum so I am giving my honest assessment of a Manager I don't believe to be up to the job. There were better options. I honestly believe Bill saw the FA Cup win and thought he is amazing. I don't think we scowered Europe or even England for the best manager we went with what the press said. I understand we won't get a Wenger But I wanted a bit more effort taken rather than just plump for the presses best option.

 

 

Few questions for you memmaclub.

Were you one of the people who were wanting Moyes out? On the whiole no although like most people there were certain games that left me fuming and ill admit I called for his head.

 

Kone - 6mil. A bit over priced not going to lie about that but again do you think we could get someone like Pauliniho who has signed for Spurs? I want us to pick up good deals in younger players. Kone has had a decent season in the prem. is he going improve our striking options? Is he better than jelavic on a good day? To spend money on a striker he needs to be proven as better than what we have. Jelavic vic Kone all good on there day but no one miles better than the other. And he is 30.

 

Who would you of wanted to manage Everton? (If Martinez wasn't our manager) simple answer Steve Clarke great foundation worked with the best and made a very good fist of a WBA team who are no better on paper than Wigan.

 

 

You cannot compare us to Wigan in any way, shape or form, do you honestly think we will do that bad with Martinez that he will be sacked in January?

Everyone is right we have a strong defence But they have to be coached and protected correctly by the rest of the team. People say you can't compare us to Wigan when in reality I am just looking at the record of our manager if I can't do that how else can I form an opinion. Do ppl honestly believe It has been the quality of players that got Wigan relegated and Martinez is blameless. You can excuse facts to fit your argument.

 

 

Were you around when Moyes got appointed?

 

Yes it was a completely different thing. We were relegation fodder and we aren't now.

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Things could just click under Martinez, Coleman and Vic could keep getting better, Jellavic could start scoring, Baines might stay and have a great season with Pienaar, hell! the players might just enjoy a fresh approach.

 

Other teams might just slip up a tad.

 

Just wish the new man well and hold your nerve, that's what we did with Moyes.

Im really excited to see how Jelavic works under RM this season.

 

Hopefully Fellaini is put back into a more anchorman/ deep lying playmaker roll and allow Jelavic to be fed from 3 or so attacking players behind him. I think it will be a fresh start for Jelly.

 

I know RM likes to play 3 at the back so next season I'd like to see this team:

 

-------------Howard------------

------Alcaraz-Jags-Distin-----

-Coleman--Fellaini--Baines-

--------------Gibson-----------

---Mirallas---------Pienaar---

---Jelavic/Kone/Anichebe---

 

or hopefully:-

 

-------------Howard------------

------Alcaraz-Jags-Distin-----

-Coleman--Fellaini--Baines-

---Mirallas-Honda-Pienaar--

---Jelavic/Kone/Anichebe---

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-------------Howard------------

------Alcaraz-Jags-Distin-----

-Coleman--Fellaini--Baines-

---Mirallas-Honda-Pienaar--

---Jelavic/Kone/Anichebe---

 

I also like the idea of playing with 13 men.

Only messing, i know what you mean.

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Personally I like Roberto. The more I hear from the interviews that he gives the more convinced I am that he may well be just the right choice. One thing for sure is that he will be given time to either make or break...... Lets hope he can improve the squad and live up to his goal of getting us into Europe on a regular basis...

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Yes it was a completely different thing. We were relegation fodder and we aren't now.

Moyes managed to get Everton down to 17th in his SECOND season in charge - Everton showed faith and he obliged -

Martinez needs at least 2 seasons to build a solid foundation from which he can launch Everton to the next level -

Martinez beat a number of top5 clubs in their backyard or neutral grounds, while Moyes could not beat United , Liverpool ,Arsenal , Chelsea or Tottenham away in 11 years -

he beat the mighty Man City in the FA Cup final with a side with a total value of 11mil pounds - less than the value of Fellaini alone -

if ever there was a side which came to a gunfight with a knife it was WIGAN -

so please stop sounding like an old hag with wet panties and give Martinez a break -

Martinez has more acheivements on his CV than the Moyesias who were given a whole 11 years to end 4th once without silverware -

lets wait and see - VIVA EVERTON VIVA!

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Moyes managed to get Everton down to 17th in his SECOND season in charge - Everton showed faith and he obliged -

Martinez needs at least 2 seasons to build a solid foundation from which he can launch Everton to the next level -

Martinez beat a number of top5 clubs in their backyard or neutral grounds, while Moyes could not beat United , Liverpool ,Arsenal , Chelsea or Tottenham away in 11 years -

he beat the mighty Man City in the FA Cup final with a side with a total value of 11mil pounds - less than the value of Fellaini alone -

if ever there was a side which came to a gunfight with a knife it was WIGAN -

so please stop sounding like an old hag with wet panties and give Martinez a break -

Martinez has more acheivements on his CV than the Moyesias who were given a whole 11 years to end 4th once without silverware -

lets wait and see - VIVA EVERTON VIVA!

 

I wish you guys would check your facts before posting them as such.

 

We've beaten Spurs at their place plenty under Moyes.

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I wish you guys would check your facts before posting them as such.

 

We've beaten Spurs at their place plenty under Moyes.

I don't think we beat them plenty of times there under Moyes, their place is a bit of a hoodoo for us I think :( (not just under Moyes, mind), but I know we beat them there at least once under Moyes.

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I don't think we beat them plenty of times there under Moyes, their place is a bit of a hoodoo for us I think :( (not just under Moyes, mind), but I know we best them there at least once under Moyes.

we did well in cup competitions I think

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Elland Road was the worst ever away venue for Everton going back far enough, an absolute horrendous record in West Yorkshire, but Moyes did indeed win three times at White Hart Lane in successive seasons at the end of the last decade, before which, our last league win at Tottenham was around 1985, although we did win there in the FA cup on route to the final in 1986. We never won a cup fixture at Tottenham under Moyes' tenure incidentally. The last cup success (at WHL), would have been as mentioned, with Howard Kendall in 1985/86.

 

Remember though, while still fine achievements with those three London wins, David Moyes was unable to register an away victory in his entire 11 years of tenure at Liverpool, Manchester United, Plastics and Arsenal. Say what you like - but simply not fucking good enough ! All the Moyes best boys should always remember that, although that's not an attack and didn't have a problem with Moyes overall, fully aware of all the fine work he did elsewhere, but it is, after all, still a regrettable statistic.

 

In any event, Moyes has left finally and we have a new name to lead us on to whatever may be ahead, but for the benefit of this thread piece once again, there's no way he'll (Martinez) be fired by end of season, regardless of what occurs. I don't know what the author was thinking

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Elland Road was the worst ever away venue for Everton going back far enough, an absolute horrendous record in West Yorkshire, but Moyes did indeed win three times at White Hart Lane in successive seasons at the end of the last decade, before which, our last league win at Tottenham was around 1985, although we did win there in the FA cup on route to the final in 1986. We never won a cup fixture at Tottenham under Moyes' tenure incidentally. The last cup success (at WHL), would have been as mentioned, with Howard Kendall in 1985/86.

 

Remember though, while still fine achievements with those three London wins, David Moyes was unable to register an away victory in his entire 11 years of tenure at Liverpool, Manchester United, Plastics and Arsenal. Say what you like - but simply not fucking good enough ! All the Moyes best boys should always remember that, although that's not an attack and didn't have a problem with Moyes overall, fully aware of all the fine work he did elsewhere, but it is, after all, still a regrettable statistic.

 

In any event, Moyes has left finally and we have a new name to lead us on to whatever may be ahead, but for the benefit of this thread piece once again, there's no way he'll (Martinez) be fired by end of season, regardless of what occurs. I don't know what the author was thinking

 

In the spring of 2012, Wigan beat Arsenal and Liverpool away, ManU and Newcastle at home. They lost 2-1 at Stamford Bridge after giving up two goals that were clearly offside. There's real hope for Everton to beat these teams in the coming season.

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Gone by Xmas or the end of the season what an absolute joke - we are not Chelsea, Spurs, Man City or QPR, and we have not signed Harry Rednapp, Mark Hughes or Di Canio as the manager. Martinez is not going to rip apart what Moyes has already steadily built, and go wild in the transfer market. Martinez spoke with respect of where the club are and how he want to steadily improve.

 

Although Moyes and Martinez are different in many way regarding there approaches to the game - They have few things in common they are both real grafters and student of the game. They are both really honest and straight talking fella's with strong principles and act with integrity, I think Martinez will build the same type of open and close relationship with the Chairman as Moyes did. I don't see any sort of love hate relationship going on.

 

I am nervously excited about the next regime at Everton - From what I have heard from Martinez so far I really think we have the best man for this particular job (I was in the Pereira camp originally) . Will we kick on?, I don't know, its a very tough ask to consistently rub shoulder with any of the Man U, City, Spur, Chelsea, Arsenal and even Liverpool, they all have vastly superior resources year after year and this is not going to change any time soon.

 

The Everton job is actually a difficult job for any manager in world football - you have very little scope to screw up in the transfer market, you can't buy yourself out of trouble or amass a large squad to cover transfer dealing deficiencies, and us fans expect year on year progress.

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Gone by Xmas or the end of the season what an absolute joke - we are not Chelsea, Spurs, Man City or QPR, and we have not signed Harry Rednapp, Mark Hughes or Di Canio as the manager. Martinez is not going to rip apart what Moyes has already steadily built, and go wild in the transfer market. Martinez spoke with respect of where the club are and how he want to steadily improve.

 

Although Moyes and Martinez are different in many way regarding there approaches to the game - They have few things in common they are both real grafters and student of the game. They are both really honest and straight talking fella's with strong principles and act with integrity, I think Martinez will build the same type of open and close relationship with the Chairman as Moyes did. I don't see any sort of love hate relationship going on.

 

I am nervously excited about the next regime at Everton - From what I have heard from Martinez so far I really think we have the best man for this particular job (I was in the Pereira camp originally) . Will we kick on?, I don't know, its a very tough ask to consistently rub shoulder with any of the Man U, City, Spur, Chelsea, Arsenal and even Liverpool, they all have vastly superior resources year after year and this is not going to change any time soon.

 

The Everton job is actually a difficult job for any manager in world football - you have very little scope to screw up in the transfer market, you can't buy yourself out of trouble or amass a large squad to cover transfer dealing deficiencies, and us fans expect year on year progress.

Great post

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Had a few sherbets this night, but what else to say on this issue.

 

Just to reiterate, there's no chance in hell Martinez will be fired by Everton Football Club by end of season. Why ? - because common sense dictates that he won't. Moyes had 11 years in charge at our club and yet won nothing but Kenwright kept the faith and allowed him to continue. Maybe in retrospect that wasn't the best of decisions, but as always, no animosity towards Moyes himself. I only want to see the club do well, and Yes, win something again.

 

For the last time, I'm (we're) not expecting an overnight success here, but if at least Martinez can bring about a greater attacking intent than previously witnessed and show a bit more attacking emphasis than David Moyes' often banal and mundane tactics than at least we're headed in the right direction. Winning the FA cup with Wigan Athletic this season was a great achievement, but we must remind ourselves the team itself, did suffer a relegation.

 

That said, Martinez will have a better caliber of players to work with this time around, so while not expecting any great things, am at least curious to see what he can produce. League consistency is important ,but have to be in that percentage where I want to see Everton football club achieve a first trophy success since 1994-95, and we do indeed have a better chance than before (I believe) to finally end that barren run with the new name in charge, but as with all things,only time will tell.

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I posted another thread about moyes buying the Wigan team. Look what's happened. Everyone is excited about this guy from Barca but lets wait and see

 

Moyes buying the wigan team??? Martinez maybe?

 

Maybe you just wanna your shite premature statement to be true so you look like a visionary. We are already looking a stronger squad with negligible spend - see how a player with a $35million release clause gets entrusted to Martinez because no less than Barcelona identify that he is the right manager to bring along their most highly rated player since Messi...

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What annoys me is the fact that people whinged and moaned about Moyes being the Everton manager and then continue to cry and whinge when we get somebody else. I've never seen a fan-base like it. Evertonians at time are a total embarrassment, constantly whinging and moaning rather than getting behind the people in charge. Martinez hasn't even managed a game for us yet and people want him to go - it's bizarre.

were not as bad as the red supporters though,in fact I think were quite loyal.

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originally I wanted pariera but I think I might have been wrong,so im quite happy the way Martinez is going about his task of making us a better team, I think he may do it, 5th place for us.

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Isn't this the fella that wanted Barca to sell Messi? Cruyff is a fucking deluded idiot so I'm not arsed what he thinks about RM.

Talking shite I'm afraid... He's a fucking legend, the visionary that gave barca the footballing philosophy you see today.

 

Did you just read "cruyff says sell the best player in the world" and stop there?

 

He said he wouldn't have bought neymar, but now they have then maybe they should look to sell messi due to a potential dilution of their skills.

 

It's not a completely daft idea, he looks at the sponsorship reality etc. messi is brilliant, anyone knows that. He just knows a little more about the complexities than you or I.

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Seems you guys might be confused.

 

Jordi is Johann's son.

 

Johann managed Barca.

 

Jordi is friends with Martinez, who has tipped him for success.

 

The article is about Jordi, not his dad (the Barca visionary).

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Didn't know where else to put this but it seems as good a place as any...

 

I'm gonna stick my neck on the line and say Martinez will do very well for you (I say 'you' rather than 'us' as I'm not an Everton fan). You're building a very good squad with talented players and he's brought in some decent lads. I have to laugh at the snobbery in English football at him bringing in some of his old Wigan players. Alcaraz is a very good defender who reads the game well. He was a mainstay of the Paraguay defence who performed so well at the 2010 World Cup and most of the following year's Copa America, but according to some in the media he's a poor signing. Right. The fact he's not a sexy name or eye-catching doesn't mean he's not a strong addition to your squad. Kone is no world beater but he has a decent ground game, is fast and will chip in with goals. I expect he and Jelavic to compete for the main striker role anyway so he probably won't be a regular. Robles is a talented young goalkeeper as well and a decent addition. I already talked about Deulofeu in his thread. You've did well with your additions.

 

I didn't want to say so at the time as an outsider giving his opinion didn't seem right (many of you were split betwen being pro-Moyes and anti-Moyes) but, to be honest, I was never a fan of Moyes. I think his abilities are overstated and exaggerated (I've covered this extensively elsewhere, but to sum it up succinctly, he isn't the miracle working pauper people say he is). He did a good job at Everton but he didn't perform miracles and, given time, Martinez can do a better job without question. I do think Martinez is potentially a better manager than Moyes. He certainly plays better football and has a much 'wider' view of football (i.e. he isn't an old-school Brit like Moyes). The only question is if he can make the step up from Wigan? I think he will but it's certainly not guaranteed. However, to reiterate, I'm prepared to make the prediction that he will and if I'm wrong I will admit it.

 

I expect Everton to play great football for the most part next season and finish top 7 at the very least. Start well and perform consistently throughout the season and a serious challenge for the CL is not out of the question, although that is probably asking too much in Martinez's first season.

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Most people seem to forget what he achieved at swansea , he took them to the playoffs, and then the following season they ended up league one champions, then in the championship the swans at one stage only lost 4 in 30 games, he pretty much put the swans where they are now, big Brenda had fuck all to do with it! So Wigan got relegated but I'mnot surprised with the budget, injuries and players they always lose, what is surprising is they won the cup something we never did. Buy then you could argue that we never got relegated, well our squad is 20 times better than Wigan's was so I don't even think its an argument

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