Finn balor Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 This may have been covered before but obviously because of our last two away games we have been dealt a shit hand. However, after watching other matches and seeing the inconsistencies across the opening premier league fixtures the mind boggles on how shit the standard is. The ref that sent jags off was adamant that was a red but fails to notice the ball being put 7 yards in front of where the foul took place and then in his next game he sees Kennedy blatantly kicking a player off the ball and doesn’t give him a card! I’m not just picking him out, they are all shite. Got a feeling this will be like this all season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 21 minutes ago, Finn balor said: Got a feeling this will be like this all season Same as every season; it's a tough job a lot of which is down to players being "clever" but the sooner VAR is put in place the better imo. Matt, Sir McGiven and nyblue23 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 The refs need support and they’re not getting it. The FA need to show them this rather than token gestures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 51 minutes ago, Matt said: The refs need support and they’re not getting it. The FA need to show them this rather than token gestures Doesn't help that most of them are absolutely shite at football so don't understand the game, they just know rules. Even worse is it attracts a certain kind of power hungry nobheads that don't like that they're shite so have a need to feel bigger and better than the players. Too many times you watch a match and it's all about the referee. A good ref you don't notice, yet we all know every ref in the prem and they make sure the top clubs have it easier. Time for a upheaval and start getting less bias foreign refs under a new branch. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 hours ago, pete0 said: Doesn't help that most of them are absolutely shite at football so don't understand the game, they just know rules. Even worse is it attracts a certain kind of power hungry nobheads that don't like that they're shite so have a need to feel bigger and better than the players. Too many times you watch a match and it's all about the referee. A good ref you don't notice, yet we all know every ref in the prem and they make sure the top clubs have it easier. Time for a upheaval and start getting less bias foreign refs under a new branch. Agreed notice how much hell the foreign refs get at the World Cup cause they actually call fouls and cards on the favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 It would help if players didnt try and cheat at almost every opportunity... Matt, Romey 1878 and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 This is why I want to petition the FA (bit busy at the moment, can only get online on my phone so can’t set up the petition). It’s all well and good them printing rules if they don’t then enforce them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 18 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: Agreed notice how much hell the foreign refs get at the World Cup cause they actually call fouls and cards on the favorites. All the refs at the World Cup were foreign. An indication of the deteriorating qualities of English refs. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 23 hours ago, MikeO said: Same as every season; it's a tough job a lot of which is down to players being "clever" but the sooner VAR is put in place the better imo. I was surprised that it wasn't given the green light to be honest. Even Spain (where there is a lot of verbal corruption) has implemented it yet we're lagging behind. I'm sure that it will be a feature for the 2019/20 season but I don't know how much more testing they need to see when it was done so well in the World Cup? 5 minutes ago, johnh said: All the refs at the World Cup were foreign. An indication of the deteriorating qualities of English refs. Not really. Each nation is represented by one referee, the chosen official from England was Mark Clattenburg but he surrendered that place when he moved to the Saudi Arabia. The fact that England wasn't represented in Russia didn't have anything at all to do with the standards in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 hours ago, johnh said: All the refs at the World Cup were foreign. An indication of the deteriorating qualities of English refs. at one point in time the english ref was the final ref, howard webb i believe. only decent guy we've had and sadly he's retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 17 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: I was surprised that it wasn't given the green light to be honest. Even Spain (where there is a lot of verbal corruption) has implemented it yet we're lagging behind. I'm sure that it will be a feature for the 2019/20 season but I don't know how much more testing they need to see when it was done so well in the World Cup? Not really. Each nation is represented by one referee, the chosen official from England was Mark Clattenburg but he surrendered that place when he moved to the Saudi Arabia. The fact that England wasn't represented in Russia didn't have anything at all to do with the standards in this country. Well the FA requested a replacement for Clattenburg and FIFA refused. They must have seen Lee Probert ref! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 Bad when a "top Ref" quits and then everyone presumes he's been noncing a dog too. Bobby Madley was shit but look at the abuse he has got online, that's going to discourage some from becoming refs and in turn stop a potentially a good ref. They are all shite in this country though, never consistent and show clear favouritism to some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, aaron said: Bad when a "top Ref" quits and then everyone presumes he's been noncing a dog too. Bobby Madley was shit but look at the abuse he has got online, that's going to discourage some from becoming refs and in turn stop a potentially a good ref. They are all shite in this country though, never consistent and show clear favouritism to some. The cynic in me thinks they're instructed to. Talk about conspiracy theories, but I've got a pretty obvious one going around my head involving the refs, the FA and the media pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 the FA should take the same stance as the top teams, buy the best talent from around the world. Surely a spanish/french/american/danish/etc. ref offered top wages and a job in the premier league would jump at the chance. Recruit the best refs from other leagues and get the standard up over here. simple as that. Quinn31, Romey 1878 and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 20 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: the FA should take the same stance as the top teams, buy the best talent from around the world. Surely a spanish/french/american/danish/etc. ref offered top wages and a job in the premier league would jump at the chance. Recruit the best refs from other leagues and get the standard up over here. simple as that. Very good thought that, wonder why it's not been done? Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 29 minutes ago, MikeO said: Very good thought that, wonder why it's not been done? Not a bad idea at all, no chance of of it happening now though. Maybe it was a language thing, maybe it was to promote grass roots development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 There has actually been talk of recruiting foreign referees because there's a shortfall of ref's in this country. Quinn31 and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 I thought the ref jobs over here was part time? Howard Webb was a part time police officer and part time ref. Could be the reason why? I like the idea though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, aaron said: I thought the ref jobs over here was part time? Howard Webb was a part time police officer and part time ref. Could be the reason why? I like the idea though. It hasn't been a part-time job for a long time. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 43 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: It hasn't been a part-time job for a long time. Ahh fair enough, makes it even worse that they are so bad then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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