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Much better in the 2nd half. That was much more like what we expect to see. But it adds to the frustration. We can do it, but we aren't just now.
 
The first half was just drab.
 
Thought Oviedo made a big difference when he came on. Gave us an extra option and wasted very little. Be great when he's in full swing.
 
Osman looked good when he came on too! Fair play to him.
 
And Browning looked good again. Marching down the right side, putting those crosses on. That's why he came on.
 
Lukaku needs to step up. I'm not a Lukaku hater, but I am a fan who looks at our main striker and wants more from him. He needs to sharpen up. I'm not bothered about his fee, his age, his touch.. today, right now, the team needs more from him.
 
Another game down. We need to find ourselves and quickly.

Can we be fair to Hibbert too.
 
We all had misgivings about him. But that's 4 games in a row having not played for 2 years. And he hasn't really done much wrong. Ok, he's not as dynamic as Coleman but he has done no harm.
 
Fair play to him.

Can we be fair to Hibbert too.
 
We all had misgivings about him. But that's 4 games in a row having not played for 2 years. And he hasn't really done much wrong. Ok, he's not as dynamic as Coleman but he has done no harm.
 
Fair play to him.

Much better in the 2nd half. That was much more like what we expect to see. But it adds to the frustration. We can do it, but we aren't just now.
 
The first half was just drab.
 
Thought Oviedo made a big difference when he came on. Gave us an extra option and wasted very little. Be great when he's in full swing.
 
Osman looked good when he came on too! Fair play to him.
 
And Browning looked good again. Marching down the right side, putting those crosses on. That's why he came on.
 
Lukaku needs to step up. I'm not a Lukaku hater, but I am a fan who looks at our main striker and wants more from him. He needs to sharpen up. I'm not bothered about his fee, his age, his touch.. today, right now, the team needs more from him.
 
Another game down. We need to find ourselves and quickly.

Much better in the 2nd half. That was much more like what we expect to see. But it adds to the frustration. We can do it, but we aren't just now.
 
The first half was just drab.
 
Thought Oviedo made a big difference when he came on. Gave us an extra option and wasted very little. Be great when he's in full swing.
 
Osman looked good when he came on too! Fair play to him.
 
And Browning looked good again. Marching down the right side, putting those crosses on. That's why he came on.
 
Lukaku needs to step up. I'm not a Lukaku hater, but I am a fan who looks at our main striker and wants more from him. He needs to sharpen up. I'm not bothered about his fee, his age, his touch.. today, right now, the team needs more from him.
 
Another game down. We need to find ourselves and quickly.

This is much better. Playing with pace and more forward passing and movement.
 
Keep it up!

In his appearances so far, I haven't seen anything to get excited about.
 
Certainly Gerry last season had a more immediate impact.
 
Hopefully he'll show something though. There's something there. A bit more game time maybe.

The players are still united as a team. See them celebrate jags goal? Together. As one. Jags banging the badge on his chest.
 
These players are committed to doing well for the club.
 
And Martinez will turn this blip around. Why? Because the players have his back. See jags run to him after the goal? When the players are not only together as a team but also support their manager...its a winning ingredient.

USA USA USA USA USA USA....

Game day! Phwoar.
 
Knock in a few hours at work then it's time for the roller coaster ride. Gonna be a long few hours.
 
Good luck all...may you come out the other side still healthy!!!

We've got the best squad for a long time. With depth.
 
We've tied down key players to longer contracts.
 
We're still in the hunt for new stadium.
 
We do loads in the community.
 
We gave our floodlights to Barrow AFC.
 
We're going through a blip bit we have the players and manager to get us through it.
 
off the top of my head!

USA USA USA USA USA USA....

Oh come on.
 
Is anybody really surprised? Swansea at near full strength are not at all a bad team. And play some tasty football.
 
If we were anywhere near full strength I'd be a bit more pissed. But look at our starting line up...Alcaraz, Hibbert, Gibson, Oviedo...4 players who have had no real football in 6-12 months. Then you have Garbett, Atsu, Besic and Eto'o newbies of differing qualities, experience etc.
 
Only 3 regular players started tonight...Howard, Distin & McGeady.
 
This isn't a team put out to win. It's a team put out to get some competitive game time. Gain some match fitness. Rest regular players ahead of the Derby on Saturday afternoon...you know it's the Derby this Saturday right?
 
I know most of the anger is a combination of the season so far. But really? Some of the comments.
 
Yes...I'll get flamed. But hey.

Oh come on.
 
Is anybody really surprised? Swansea at near full strength are not at all a bad team. And play some tasty football.
 
If we were anywhere near full strength I'd be a bit more pissed. But look at our starting line up...Alcaraz, Hibbert, Gibson, Oviedo...4 players who have had no real football in 6-12 months. Then you have Garbett, Atsu, Besic and Eto'o newbies of differing qualities, experience etc.
 
Only 3 regular players started tonight...Howard, Distin & McGeady.
 
This isn't a team put out to win. It's a team put out to get some competitive game time. Gain some match fitness. Rest regular players ahead of the Derby on Saturday afternoon...you know it's the Derby this Saturday right?
 
I know most of the anger is a combination of the season so far. But really? Some of the comments.
 
Yes...I'll get flamed. But hey.

Haha...It seems the easier option sometimes!
 
Didn't see any of the game, so won't insult those who did by trying to surmise anything.
 
All I can do is look at the stats (not the be all and end all of a game I know!) and wonder what we are doing with 75% possession? I'm a massive fan of the way we play but it has to be effective. And Palace, 3 shots on target...3 goals?! Was that felt by those watching?!
 
I thought we would do this one. Even with changes. I thought there was more than enough in that starting 11 to get 3 points.
 
But I guess this weekend shows why the Premiership is THE No.1 league in the world....West ham 3 - Liverpool 1, Spurs 0 - WBA 1, Leicester 5 - Utd 3...and this.
 
It's going to be another tight run for most of the season.

Tried a few sites, can't find one!
 
Did look to be a good amount of empties.

How very dare you!!!

Gibson....Welcome back sir!

How very dare you!!!

I know!
 
I felt the force there didn't I?!!

Ha...nowhere near the post! Keeper saved it.

How are they different in so many ways? I'm married to a Glaswegian, and enjoy it when we spend time in Glasgow. Last time I spoke to my wife, she spoke the same language as me??? We got married in April and had lots of her family down, they also spoke the same language. All my 'plastic scouse' family were there...They all inter mingled brilliantly and had a brill weekend. Behind all the banter (usually sports related!), generally, both Scots and English are fine.
 
The only bias is the BBC. Avoid that at all costs on any subject.
 
All this history...Christ, the time is now. If they are still angry because William Wallace got hung, drawn and quartered...well, that's sad. We English can't forever be the bad guys just because thousands of years ago we dared to venture and take ownership of land...in an era when every civilisation was doing the same! I'll stop there with that one as I am in danger of going over my own head!!! Ha!
 
We are what we are. As a United Kingdom, has it done us any harm? We have many privileges that other nations envy.
 
Fair enough, each country should have much more influence on what happens in their own land. But all this anti England stuff is dated. It's old news. For the UKs size, we are a big player in the world (for right or wrong reasons). Would we be if we were all separate?
 
I fear that if it is Yes, it will be because of bravado and misplaced pride. Yet will also mean some very uncertain, and hard, years for the Scots. They don't deserve that.
 
BUT...If it is yes, then good luck. Hope it goes well...because you just know that if it doesn't go well they'll only jump over the border into England.

65% No....35% Yes. The silent ones will speak, and they are silent because they are 'No'. I really hope that the famous Scottish pride can be swallowed a little and that common sense can prevail.
 
I find it hard to believe that they are having a vote with so many unanswered questions. I also find it difficult that 16 year old can vote. Most of these can't make beans on toast, yet they can take part in this vote? C'mon, that's shocking.
 
The big swinger for me will be that while the Scots dislike the Westminster decision making (can't blame them really...even Northerners don't like that!), at least they know where they are. Go independent, and it's all up in the air.
 
Currency for example...the most important thing for a country is currency. It's strength on a global scale can make or break a nation. The scots don't know what they are going to use. Yet they may vote 'yes'?
 
Oil/Gas...its ok saying you have it and that is what will support the economy. But how do you know what value is on it? You become independent, the world knows you are relying in this resource to make your country work, you don't think the extracting companies are going to be real mean in negotiating prices etc? If they decide not to extract, and go elsewhere, you're screwed. Most of the fuel extracted is used in the UK. What if Westminster decide it's cheaper to import it from elsewhere? Politics can make that happen. Politics is the biggest Bitch in the history of mankind.
 
All nations go into debt. They need money from banks etc to keep the nation going. As a new independent country, they won't have a credit rating, will be seen as very high risk and will find it difficult to borrow money. When they do borrow, the interest will be a lot higher than the UK pays.
 
Could go on...so many ifs and buts. I wouldn't like to be a Scot just now. Not a chance!

I think it's unjust just to look at his Wigan record. You do have to also take into account his Swansea record for it to be a balanced argument.
 
I thought his record at Swansea must have been sound as he took them to another level and is credited for their footballing philosophy. So thanks Bailey for digging it out!!!

This picking him apart at interviews is daft. What's the point?
 
Look at him when we concede or do something wrong on the pitch...His look if frustration is there for all to see.
 
I noticed in his interview that he seemed more downbeat after the Chelsea game. His tone of voice was slighly lighter, his eyes not as wide open and his mouth a bit more down turned. He wasn't himself, definitely disappointed. You can still speak using real positive words, but your face gives away your true feelings.