Avinalaff Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 This isn't about football, but about our fans. What's happening to our good nature? Last season we had fans spitting at players, innocent fans attacked, and yesterday we've got bottles and coins etc thrown on to the pitch at players. No excuse I can think of can justify this behaviour. Over 100 years of history and tradition of being great fans and that's all about to go tits up soon because of the actions of a handful of absolute mindless idiots. I hope they get caught and prosecuted, and banned from Goodison Park and every other ground never to watch live football again. Thankfully nobody was injured. It's time some folk realised it's a game To any supporters from other clubs, these people are not representative of Everton Football Club, nor our fan base, and have no place on our terraces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe9009 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 have to agree, some idiots think walking into the gwladys street gives them special poors to be the biggest spas they can be and its ok cos its football. i thought it was funny when, i think it was bellamy, was taking a corner and some idiot was shouting abuse and giving him the fingers while also taking a photo of him. what an ambassader for our club, moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) Suarez and Atkinson are partly to blame, there was no shit thrown 'till them two pissed all over the place, petty to throw stuff and I don't condone it but it would have been avoided if people done their jobs properly. The Everton team constantly be the bigger man, but y'day was a game too far. should have walked off the pitch after that red, or not even bothered going on it in the first place because that match was only gonna ever have one result. All the refs know Suarez is a diving cunt, and what ever clever lad who picks the refs knew Atkinson is a notorious card happy bully victim, who also happens to loathe Everton to do the derby is a cunt. Corrupt, power abusing, game fixing slime the whole FA or Sky or who ever it is pulling the strings in the league to keep the 'top' teams top. Edited October 2, 2011 by pete0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codders78 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Mindless fucktards It brings shame on us as a club. A small minority reflect incredibly badly on the club. However disgruntled you are with the referee and opposition there is just no excuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 no one's to blame but the people who threw the shit...atkinson fucked us over as did suarez but if that coin had hit him properly it may have hurt him bad..no place for it in football at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beard Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 I don't condone the actions but I understand why people behave in that way, it doesn't mean it's right but I understand. You can pontificate all you like by saying the only people to blame are the people who threw objects but if people are riled by unfairness then retaliation is often the following course of action. Atkinson and Suarez did contribute to the actions and apart from the blatant dive that caused the ridiculous sending off, Saurez was asked on more than one occasion to remove himself from the touchlines and close proximity to Everton fans, firstly after he scored and another when deliberating to take a corner, whether this is wrong or right it only inflamed matters when he took an age in doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codders78 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Cmon Beard its a game, just a game. No excuses whatsoever Mindless idiots and im disgusted to be associated with them as should any decent Evertonian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 I agree with The Beard Its embarassing and reflects badly on the club and I wish it hadnt happened but in the heat of the moment I can undertsand it The situation had been inflamed by the complete ineptitude of the Referee and the sense of injustice that ensued Its far more than just a game its people lives, peoples passions and when the red mist comes down some people can do daft things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codders78 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 How do these people deal with adversity away from football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beard Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Cmon Beard its a game, just a game. No excuses whatsoever Mindless idiots and im disgusted to be associated with them as should any decent Evertonian Mate I know it's just a game but a game that encites passion, whether right or wrong. I did state I don't condone the actions but I understand why people behave like they do and people will have excuses for their behaviour and their excuse will be the actions of Atkinson and Suarez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 How do these people deal with adversity away from football? Different people react differently to all manner of situations its called human nature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codders78 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 And they react to a bad refereeing decision by lobbing coins and bottles at the opposition players. You are seeking to justify these actions as human nature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codders78 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 I was as bitterly disappointed by yesterdays sending off and result as the next man but it never crossed my mind to bring the clubs name into disrepute by involving myself in coin throwing. Kids lash out when they dont get their own way, grown men should have a little more restraint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beard Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 And they react to a bad refereeing decision by lobbing coins and bottles at the opposition players. You are seeking to justify these actions as human nature? I don't think we are trying to justify anything. Like Duncan said everyone reacts in different ways, whether it is right or wrong. I was, like yourself, bitterly disappointed but I chose to discuss the unfairness in the pub others decided to throw missiles, I know it is wrong but that is what they did and I can't control peoples' behaviour. Compare it to recent instances in that have taken place AND I know this is two very extremes. Peoples houses/ businesses have been burgled and the owners have reacted by defending themselves and their property resulting in the deaths of their assailants. They have taken the life of somebody else because of the unfairness shown to them. Can their actions be justified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codders78 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Its somewhat apples and oranges comparing the potential loss of home and livelihood to a bad refeering decision in a game of football. Im not looking for an argument but both you and Duncan have sought to justify the actions of these (and I use the term loosely) fans You did the same as I did and had a good moan over several pints as it should be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beard Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Its somewhat apples and oranges comparing the potential loss of home and livelihood to a bad refeering decision in a game of football. Im not looking for an argument but both you and Duncan have sought to justify the actions of these (and I use the term loosely) fans You did the same as I did and had a good moan over several pints as it should be I am not looking for an argument myself and the only justification I may have offered is the fact that poeple react to different situations in different ways, unfortunately that is part of life which ever way you look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyaus Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) As if none of you wouldn't of been delighted if surez got fucked up by a coin Edited October 2, 2011 by billy17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Its somewhat apples and oranges comparing the potential loss of home and livelihood to a bad refeering decision in a game of football. Im not looking for an argument but both you and Duncan have sought to justify the actions of these (and I use the term loosely) fans You did the same as I did and had a good moan over several pints as it should be I disagree with you, I am not trying to justify their actions at all. I am merely saying that I understand why it happened I am also saying its human nature that dictates how you react to any given situation. Its not something I would have done but thats down to my nature Lets get this straight it was not a preplanned thing it was a reaction to the actions of the Referee and Liverpool players. Its a bit like road rage You may well have hit the nail on the head when you say that " Kids lash out when they dont get their own way, grown men should have a little more restraint" This all happened in the Gwladys Street which is normally full of kids and young scallies and is one of the main reasons I sit in the Park End Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 As if none of you wouldn't of been delighted if surez got fucked up by a coin Unbelievable comment! Your suggesting that we would be happy to see someone succumb to physical harm cause he dived in a game of football? Nothing could justify something like that, especially a game of football!! Granted Suarez is a total knob, but to think he should be harmed in anyway is out of order, and I would have thought I reflect everyone else's opinion as well apart from you!! You are a disgrace to the club fir suggesting such a thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Unbelievable comment! Your suggesting that we would be happy to see someone succumb to physical harm cause he dived in a game of football? Nothing could justify something like that, especially a game of football!! Granted Suarez is a total knob, but to think he should be harmed in anyway is out of order, and I would have thought I reflect everyone else's opinion as well apart from you!! You are a disgrace to the club fir suggesting such a thing! I wouldn't worry mate, he's not an Everton fan but a Cahill fan judging by previous comments of his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) Passion or not, riled or not, there is no excuse for throwing things and i dont understand how people "understand" it. Hurl abuse by all means but keep it verbal. As for you Bily, you are an embarrassment. Please crawl back to your cave edit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2044205/Everton-face-investigation-bottles-thrown-Merseyside-derby.html Edited October 2, 2011 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beard Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Passion or not, riled or not, there is no excuse for throwing things and i dont understand how people "understand" it. Hurl abuse by all means but keep it verbal. As for you Bily, you are an embarrassment. Please crawl back to your cave edit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2044205/Everton-face-investigation-bottles-thrown-Merseyside-derby.html Matt I understand because I acknowledge that as individuals we react to different things differently. I reiterate what I have said a couple of times before on this thread, myself, and Duncan, are not condoning it but we understand why it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Matt I understand because I acknowledge that as individuals we react to different things differently. I reiterate what I have said a couple of times before on this thread, myself, and Duncan, are not condoning it but we understand why it happens. mate, i know youre not condoning, it wasnt meant as jab. Putting it like that, yes people will react in different ways - i just hoped that Evertonians were above that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Throwing stuff at players allows people judge us all negatively. I would have felt like doing it but have been brought up to do different and know its pure scum behaviour. However, my anger at Suarez and the ref was unbelievable, I wanted to smash them up, seriously seriously aggrieved that the one fixture of a season was destroyed by those immoral pricks. The only player who showed any disgust to what I would have done was Cahill. Charlie Adam - do me a favour you fat horrible git, making out you were doing rodwell a favour helping him off the pitch? Your reaction to the none foul influenced the refs decision. If not one of our players or staff confronted Suarez and the ref I will be disgusted. Personally if I was rodwell I would have bruised knuckles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanchesterCity Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Not sure about the Charlie Adam stuff... In my eyes, I genuinely thought he was doing right by the lad - just stopping it from getting worse. A ref never changes his mind and it's just best to go. Hand on heart, I think Charlie Adam was just did the right thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 (edited) there is no excuse, and i dont think for one second any of our members are justifying it. i dont think beard and dunc are justifying it, they are just giving the reasons that have pushed these idiots to these actions. no one is saying its right, it happens. i hope they are caught and brought to justice, but in the cold light of day people react to things, that was yesterday. we cant do anything about it now personally. the police and the club will study the cctv and hopefully these idiots will be banned. on charlie adam, ive said the same in the match day thread. i dont think he was doing any favours. he was first in the refs face after the challenge. jack was already sent off, how could it have got worse for him. it looked to me like he wanted him off quick so they could get started and take advantage of ten men. Edited October 2, 2011 by StevO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 The right thing by The Shite maybe He was part of the reason Rodwell was sent off in the first place, him and Lucas were straight in the Refs face baying for a red card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 i thought it was Lucas 1st in complaining to the ref, not Adam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 i thought it was Lucas 1st in complaining to the ref, not Adam. the two of them were in there going at the ref. ok lucas might have been there a second before him, but the idea he was doing any favours doesnt sit with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 i thought it was Lucas 1st in complaining to the ref, not Adam. He may well have been but Adam was only about half a nano second behind him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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