Romey 1878 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 A good work horse but that really is about it isn't it? I'd rather save the pennies if I'm honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 as long as wages aren't too high i'd happily have him here...decent player and has a huge following in asia can only help i'm sure? scores important goals too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) He's been a little off this season. The champs league final united lost SAF admitted his biggest regret was leaving him out, always played for the big games other than that. Big yes from me, just hope he plays like last year and this year was a one off stinker. Edit: As Marco said the Asian fan base will give us a boost as well. Edited May 17, 2012 by pete0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Was it from 4th official? Would be delighted if we signed him - excellent player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Who wrote this? Think we should all copy in the source, saves us all from asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaminfox Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I always rated him, I would be really happy if this came off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Who wrote this? Think we should all copy in the source, saves us all from asking err good point and no idea, sorry! Will keep it in mind next time,.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Richard Buxton @Richard_Buxton_ James McFadden and Marcus Hahnemann have both left #EFC after their contacts expired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Good, they were only short-term options anyway. McFadden, how that guy got another contract in the first place is a mystery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-mackie Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Fourth Official suggested we might be in for Tom Ince of Blackpool yesterday. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I'd be happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I'd be happy with that. Looks a good player, a bit lightweight maybe, echo's of SWP about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 SWP isn't lightweight, he's shite, so not echoes of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 (edited) SWP isn't lightweight, he's shite, so not echoes of him. Do you not think Ince would get knocked off the ball quite easy against premier league defenders then He looks as though he would need to bulk up a bit Edited May 20, 2012 by theprisoner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 The obsession with players being big does my nut right in. You get him to bulk up and then he'd lose pace. Just look at Agbonlahor; he's bulked up and lost a shedload of pace. The whole point of the type of wide player that he is is that he's wiry and uses pace and trickery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 The obsession with players being big does my nut right in. You get him to bulk up and then he'd lose pace. Just look at Agbonlahor; he's bulked up and lost a shedload of pace. The whole point of the type of wide player that he is is that he's wiry and uses pace and trickery. You don't lose pace, plenty of big players who can shift, but yeah i can see what your saying though, the big question is though, does he defend enough? otherwise we will never see that pace and trickery because Moyes will drain it out of him in no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 You don't lose pace, plenty of big players who can shift, but yeah i can see what your saying though, the big question is though, does he defend enough? otherwise we will never see that pace and trickery because Moyes will drain it out of him in no time. Course you lose pace if you bulk up! I've just given you an example. I'm not saying if you bulk up you're slow as fuck, but it stands to reason that if you add more weight to your body then you're going to expend more energy to get going and therefore you will be slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-mackie Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 You don't lose pace, plenty of big players who can shift, but yeah i can see what your saying though, the big question is though, does he defend enough? otherwise we will never see that pace and trickery because Moyes will drain it out of him in no time. To be fair to the lad, from what I saw of him yesterday, he seemed to track back and help out his full back quite a lot. In terms of his size, I don;t think that would be the issue - there are plenty of big, powerful defenders in the Championship. For me the worry would be him stepping up and playing against more intelligent defenders. Risk worth taking at the right price I think.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Course you lose pace if you bulk up! I've just given you an example. I'm not saying if you bulk up you're slow as fuck, but it stands to reason that if you add more weight to your body then you're going to expend more energy to get going and therefore you will be slower. Over short distances it doesnt make a difference. Just depends on your natural muscle fibre, fast twitch or something on the lines of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Course you lose pace if you bulk up! I've just given you an example. I'm not saying if you bulk up you're slow as fuck, but it stands to reason that if you add more weight to your body then you're going to expend more energy to get going and therefore you will be slower. I do agree with you with regards to Agbonlahor, but the likes of Aguero and Tevez, Rooney very stocky but can still move, its more to do with fitness imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I do agree with you with regards to Agbonlahor, but the likes of Aguero and Tevez, Rooney very stocky but can still move, its more to do with fitness imo. They've only ever been stocky. Can you tell me if they were able to shift at the same rate before? No, so those examples don't really work. I'm saying you're going to take something away from him if you get him to bulk up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 (edited) They've only ever been stocky. Can you tell me if they were able to shift at the same rate before? No, so those examples don't really work. I'm saying you're going to take something away from him if you get him to bulk up. Well we need to sign him first then we will see, in all fairness Osman seems to have been ok over the years. Also if you look at Aguero when he takes his shirt off, thats all muscle, its not natural build its gym work you can tell. Edited May 20, 2012 by theprisoner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 SWP isn't lightweight, he's shite, so not echoes of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Also if you look at Aguero when he takes his shirt off, thats all muscle, its not natural build its gym work you can tell. No offense, but you're watching football for all the wrong reasons mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 No offense, but you're watching football for all the wrong reasons mate! no, just a tad jealous thats all lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Fourth Official @Fourth_Official Rumours gathering pace regarding Everton making a move for Burnley's Jay Rodriguez #EFC 3:52pm - 22 May 12 via web Don't know a great deal about him to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Championship team: Kelvin Davis (Southampton), Nathaniel Clyne (Crystal Palace), James Tomkins (West Ham), Curtis Davies (Birmingham), Ian Harte (Reading), Adam Lallana (Southampton), Peter Whittingham (Cardiff), Mark Noble (West Ham), Matt Phillips (Blackpool), Rickie Lambert (Southampton), Jay Rodriguez (Burnley). Team of the year as striker but only joint 9th top scorer. That suggests there's more to his game than just goals... could be an interesting one. Moyes type signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Here is me thinking outside of the box; Jay Rodriguez to replace Tim Cahill? If there is more to this lads games than goals then Jay might play just behind Jelavic feeding him whilst also being able to find the net himself if need be (due to spending the first part of his career as a striker). It really woulden't surprise me if he's brought in to do a Cahill-esqe role within the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Agent_ITK @Agent_ITK Hegarty could make a move from #Rangers to #Everton in the summer. #spl #efc #football @iKnowTransfers: Everton and Bolton will offer Owen Hargreaves a pay per play contract #EFC #BWFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Owen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Owen? huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 huh? Hargreaves, i was being a bit sarcastic, based on the fact he has'nt played for god knows how many years, really do we need to be looking at the likes of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 oh right it just confused me i thought you were on about michael owen didn't even register hargreaves first name..still make your comments a bit more meaty or i get confused :shaking fist: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 oh right it just confused me i thought you were on about michael owen didn't even register hargreaves first name..still make your comments a bit more meaty or i get confused haha yes Dad the prospect of both Owen's is quite scary tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 also possible...shudder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Scary thought indeed at having two Owens. Surely not Moyes type of players with them being in there late 30's now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 We need a few more physios and maybe our own hospital Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Throw in Sick note Anderton and the troika is complete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverand Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Anyone else heard all the Aly Cissokho for 6m rumors? I would rather keep Baines but cissokho is a good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Football Rumours @iTransferGossip Belgian sources say Chelsea will offer Romelu Lukaku in a swap offer for Everton midfielder Marouane Fellaini. #EFC #CFC Good lord, some people are bored..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Good lord, some people are bored..... Most BS rumor I've heard yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverand Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Good lord, some people are bored..... Most BS rumor I've heard yet. Not a shred of credability but interesting nonetheless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 insider. @iKnowTransfers Belgian reports suggest that Chelsea are to offer a cash + player deal to Everton for Marouane Fellaini, with £15Mil+Lukaku going. #EFC #CFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Bright young striker + £15m cash and possibly Josh McEchran on loan? I've taken the blue tinted glasses off, i'd take it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 i'd take josh and money..lukaku hasn't impressed me and missed sitters when he's had his admittedly rare chance...still young i know but i don't like target men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Bright young striker + £15m cash and possibly Josh McEchran on loan? I've taken the blue tinted glasses off, i'd take it.... If we could get McEchran and £30 mil I'll sleep on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Bright young striker + £15m cash and possibly Josh McEchran on loan? I've taken the blue tinted glasses off, i'd take it.... I like McEchran, but another youngster in midfield ahead of ours? no thanks. Lukaku needs to be given a chance and he could be good, but why would he come to us when he can get the Chelsea wages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Just a thought Josh would replace rodwell...who lets be honest will never play again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Just a thought Josh would replace rodwell...who lets be honest will never play again why do you say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 He's injuried, comes back, gets injured, out for months, comes back...ooooh oh no, he farted, broke his pelvis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 He's injuried, comes back, gets injured, out for months, comes back...ooooh oh no, he farted, broke his pelvis. He'll be back, hes only young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 He'll be back, hes only young. he's had the same injury 3 times and he's what 21-22, i agree with J, any hope of Jack being some sort of big time world beater are long gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 he gets injured repeatedly cos he gets brought back too soon...just like coleman did..can't believe people write him off so much it's like they're desperate for him to fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverand Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 I don't think Jack is completely hopeless, but I would take 18 mil for fellaini plus lukaku and mcechran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 he gets injured repeatedly cos he gets brought back too soon...just like coleman did..can't believe people write him off so much it's like they're desperate for him to fail this. Not sure I agree with people being desperate for him to fail though mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 he gets injured repeatedly cos he gets brought back too soon...just like coleman did..can't believe people write him off so much it's like they're desperate for him to fail Don't want him to fail, but having the same injury multiple times at a young age points to a weakness, and yes he has been brought back to early which comes down to poor physio/bad management which i suppose raises questions about the backroom staff, an issue which most of us agree needs investigating further, as we have a ton of defensive coaches an no attacking for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 i have every faith in jack...no euros or olympics for him...2 months to rest and recover..perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 he's had the same injury 3 times and he's what 21-22, i agree with J, any hope of Jack being some sort of big time world beater are long gone. Erm, I'm going to point to Steven Gerrard now. I'm not saying Rodwell will be that good but Gerrard had the same problems when he was first starting out and he came through them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 I would say that when Rodders came back for a couple of matches i thought "why the hell is he in the team" Then i watched how he played and got a little of that enthusiasm back for him again. Whenever i see him play, which is not often admitedly, he is looking like he has something to prove. I would not write him of yet guys! the guy does have talent and plenty of time to get fit and prove something of himself. I mean take yourself back 5 years and ask yourself if Hibbo was going to be solid and reliable in 2012? there is a guy that has just got better and better as years go by. Isnt ossie one of the most unsung players in the prem these days? you know hes the type of player that England just dont posses. Rodders is a class act and will come good. Will he make a world beater? i dont know. But one thing i am sure of is that he will become a top player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 he gets injured repeatedly cos he gets brought back too soon...just like coleman did..can't believe people write him off so much it's like they're desperate for him to fail This. People have quickly forgotten how he was probably our best player in a very poor start to the season... that same form that earned him his first England caps and talk of him being a shoe in for the euro's. I really like Rodwell and want him to be a great player for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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