Aidan Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Fellaini is quite versatile but best left in DM. He has a world class first touch, the strength of a warrior, the vision of an eagle and the aggression and determination of a fighter. If you pick out one player and just watch them throughout the match choose Fellaini because what he can do in a game just puts a smile on your face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Gerrard is not technically good enough up against a Xavi, Zidane or even Scholes at his best, going forward that is, and not good enough defensively up against a Makelele, Gattuso, Fellaini, that only leaves a position of a ''box to box midfielder'' and at that he is up at the the summit, as much as I dislike the guy. Maybe we need someone with his ability to drive us forward coz pip don't lead by example does he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue4Ever Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Gerrard is not technically good enough up against a Xavi, Zidane or even Scholes at his best, going forward that is, and not good enough defensively up against a Makelele, Gattuso, Fellaini, that only leaves a position of a ''box to box midfielder'' and at that he is up at the the summit, as much as I dislike the guy. Maybe we need someone with his ability to drive us forward coz pip don't lead by example does he? I remember the days when everyone licked the balls off neville on here how times change ay. hes never been a bad captain for example when he handballed lucas's shot off the line the the derby that was a good thing to do for your club but in terms of footballing ability he's just never been any good at football and to think our manager thinks he's one of our midfield options just baffles me. I question rednapp who I thought was one of the best managers in england, why did you even bid for him you must be out of your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 I remember the days when everyone licked the balls off neville on here how times change ay. Never happened when talking about him as a midfield player. He's had credit when due, mostly as a right back and for the odd special tackle (including his performance v Bale shortly after his Inter hat-trick). But that's it. All deserved. No-one's ever had a good word to say about him as a midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Gerrard is not technically good enough up against a Xavi, Zidane or even Scholes at his best, going forward that is, and not good enough defensively up against a Makelele, Gattuso, Fellaini, that only leaves a position of a ''box to box midfielder'' and at that he is up at the the summit, as much as I dislike the guy. Maybe we need someone with his ability to drive us forward coz pip don't lead by example does he? This sums him up for me, not as good as the best defensive mids nor the attacking, that makes him obviously not so good. I'd rather have two specialist, Felli and Scholes (although Scholes has dropped back in midfield and proven himself there, and is on another level anyway) than two Gerrards. Leads by example, is why they win more without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 I'll be honest with myself in saying I personally don't like Gerrard, horrible snidey rat faced individual, a bit like Terry in that respect, BUT realize full well what a gifted player he was, and still is, and however I feel personally, you can't ignore how instrumental he has been for both the shite and and at international level the last ten or twelve years, take the 2006 FA cup final, I remember the day well, Shite were moments away from a shock defeat that afternoon, Gerrard gets the ball some distance out, and scores a beaut from 30 yards or thereabouts, no-one else on the field could have done it, it was a typical Gerrard moment and he's been a pivotal player for the shite and fan favorite quite rightly All said, Fellaini, good player as he is, if you piece it all together simply can't be on the same plateau as Gerrard if we're talking in regard to their careers as we've seen them. It can be painful giving Shite players recognition and accolades but the kid has earned it. Fellaini can improve and is the younger of the two but right now, on a total basis, Gerrard wins this battle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 different players at different stages of their career. Cant make a comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 different players at different stages of their career. Cant make a comparison. Oh yes you can Matt, Felli is three times the player!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I think as it stands now i'd have Felli i rate him so highly i think he will play for one of the top teams in the world and if i was Man Utd i'd be making us an offer right now. Gerrard as much as i hate the cunt was a top class player not in my mind world class due to the fact that he has been shite for england and not as good as Roy Keane, Viera in their prime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Gerrard was better than keane - keane was so over rated in the same way Robson was and to an extent ince was when he was there. Scholes is the best midfielder they have had in the past 30 years. Viera was a difficult player to compare, a bit of a one off, that said I'd have gerrard over him for goal scoring threat and deadball. Gerrard has a better eye for a pass, viera better at breaking up play. Scholes and gerrard my two from all aforementioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Gerrard as much as i hate the cunt was a top class player not in my mind world class due to the fact that he has been shite for england and not as good as Roy Keane, Viera in their prime The argument regarding International displays is a non starter for me to be honest many world class players have been poor internationally. Messi Ronaldo Rooney to name but a few of many that seem to flop or under perform on the International stage. At what Gerrard did He was top class the same can be said of Viera but Keane was more of an enigma for me if He had played for another side and put the same shifts in He did for United He'd have been for less known and hyped about. As Matt said you really can't make a comparison with Gerrard as they are two totally different players at different stages in their careers, comparing Fellaini with players such as De Jong, Busquets, Song, Essien and so on would be more of a comparison.... Edited March 8, 2012 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 I'd put Fellaini in the top bracket of players for his position Essien, Cambiasso, and Viera. Gerrard doesnt come close to his countrymen Scholes(best I've seen), Gazza, and even Lampard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Gerrard is way better than Lampard in my opinion. That spoilt brat of a player has never had to put a shift in the way gerrard has, he's always had players do his dirty work for him. Has anyone ever seen Lampard have a good game in a midfield partnership? I dont think I have... Reason? He needs to be the advanced third man. Lampard proved what he is all about at last world cup, shoot, shoot, shoot. I've seen gerrard drag a tired, scared and clueless team back into the game on numerous occasions, the fact that people can even try and compare lamps to gerrard shows what a lucky and pampered boy frank has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Gerrard is way better than Lampard in my opinion. That spoilt brat of a player has never had to put a shift in the way gerrard has, he's always had players do his dirty work for him. Has anyone ever seen Lampard have a good game in a midfield partnership? I dont think I have... Reason? He needs to be the advanced third man. Lampard proved what he is all about at last world cup, shoot, shoot, shoot. I've seen gerrard drag a tired, scared and clueless team back into the game on numerous occasions, the fact that people can even try and compare lamps to gerrard shows what a lucky and pampered boy frank has been. this completely. Lampard is one of the most overrated players of all time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Gerrard is way better than Lampard in my opinion. That spoilt brat of a player has never had to put a shift in the way gerrard has, he's always had players do his dirty work for him. Has anyone ever seen Lampard have a good game in a midfield partnership? I dont think I have... Reason? He needs to be the advanced third man. Lampard proved what he is all about at last world cup, shoot, shoot, shoot. I've seen gerrard drag a tired, scared and clueless team back into the game on numerous occasions, the fact that people can even try and compare lamps to gerrard shows what a lucky and pampered boy frank has been. Have to agree. Against the thread, a 24 year old Gerrard and a 23 Year old Fellaini, is pant wetting stuff. That is would have been one of the best midfield partnerships the premeir league has ever seen. As much as you dislike Liverpool, you can't hold anything but massive respect to Gerrard AS a footballer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 so what if lampard can't play in a midfield two..is he that type of player? cahill can't do it either but in his prime was one of the most effective advanced midfielders goin...now before anyone gives it the big one i ain't bringin a cahill comparison into this argument but can you compare lampard and gerrard?...for me no..gerrard is a centre mid..lampard is an advanced mid..two different players.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 I have never rated Cahill as a footballer, rate him as a man who has made the most of what he has and combined it with unreal determination. For us he will be remembered as a blue legend, purely for the manner in which he has represented. I have actually compared cahill to Lampard at times, Lampard being the better footballer, Cahill being the better competitor and arial threat. Both needing two centre mids alongside. Neither can hold a torch to gerrard I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Gerrard is way better than Lampard in my opinion. That spoilt brat of a player has never had to put a shift in the way gerrard has, he's always had players do his dirty work for him. Has anyone ever seen Lampard have a good game in a midfield partnership? I dont think I have... Reason? He needs to be the advanced third man. Lampard proved what he is all about at last world cup, shoot, shoot, shoot. I've seen gerrard drag a tired, scared and clueless team back into the game on numerous occasions, the fact that people can even try and compare lamps to gerrard shows what a lucky and pampered boy frank has been. I've seen him moan and groan and drag the team down more times than he pulls off a hit and hope and gets credit for inspiring a lacking performance. He can get the side going now and again, but likewise if he's not performing he has a negative effect on the rest of the team and overall it's a detrimental effect, they win more with out him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 I have never rated Cahill as a footballer, rate him as a man who has made the most of what he has and combined it with unreal determination. For us he will be remembered as a blue legend, purely for the manner in which he has represented. I have actually compared cahill to Lampard at times, Lampard being the better footballer, Cahill being the better competitor and arial threat. Both needing two centre mids alongside. Neither can hold a torch to gerrard I'm afraid. my point was that to me they are different players...not really comparable in my eyes...scholes and gerrard are comparable...lampard has an immense goal record in his career..he's made the most of what he has too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 I've seen him moan and groan and drag the team down more times than he pulls off a hit and hope and gets credit for inspiring a lacking performance. He can get the side going now and again, but likewise if he's not performing he has a negative effect on the rest of the team and overall it's a detrimental effect, they win more with out him. I've been going to see Liverpool regularly since the mid 80s I've seen him score goals in League, FA, UEFA, and European Cup finals, seen him have an FA cup final named after him. Seen him drag average teams to the top 4 in the league and win a European Cup. I've seen him destroy Real Madrid, seen him go to places like the Nou Camp, San Siro, Bernabau, Stadt Velodrome etc and win. I've seen him do things I've never seen anyone else in Red do, win games and score goals that will be remembered forever. Than't what we will remember, and when the dust settles, all that will ever matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 http://www.royalbluemersey.com/2012/3/8/2855311/marouane-fellaini-master-of-the-midfield-or-turnover-machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lowensda Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 They were all shite last night, "right place, right time" comes to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 1st goal was class finish will give him that...me mam could have scored the other 2..suarez made gerrard look good last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 ^ why has this smiley got a willy on his head? anyway...marco, your mam sounds great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Gerrard is a match winner and a big game player. To compare Fellaini with him isnt really fair on Fellaini. As good as Fellaini is, Gerrard is another level, and even now towards the end of his career he is such a dangerous player to have around. I hate him, true hate, but as a player, nothing but respect. And anyone who doesnt respect him as a player should take another look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 ^ why has this smiley got a willy on his head? anyway...marco, your mam sounds great. my mums amazin...and that's a comb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 my mums amazin...and that's a comb Comb?! You'll be telling me your avatar isn't a bottom in a hat next! Seriously though, that 3rd goal was hardly simply a tap in, he started the move in his own half, drove forward 50yds with the ball and played a 1-2 to get in that "right place, right time". The movement and touch to get him in for the early chance Howard saved was world class too. Also, ignoring the fact he was boss all game, that hat-trick is a feat not achieved in a derby for the last 30 years...give him some credit! Combs don't look like willys!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 american ones do gerrard had a good match i'm not denyin that but them 2 finishes for the goals where easy finishes in my eyes...he deserves credit for bein there though you gotta put the effort in...summat our midfield lacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Pat Nevin... "I think the best defender on the pitch tonight was Steven Gerrard, the best midfielder was Steven Gerrard, the best attacker was Steven Gerrard, the player with most vision on the ball was Steven Gerrard and the player with the best attitude was Steven Gerrard..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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