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I can see his flaws. Sometimes he looks like he is unable to even square a ball 5 yards away from him! But IMO he does a hell of a lot more good than bad for the team.

 

Someone like Ozil isn't a good defender, someone like Gueye isn't a good attacker, but they're both quality at what they do and that thing for Gana is break up the play.

He breaks up our play as well though by slowing down the attack or not passing the ball cleanly. Gana is a terrier, I'd like more from someone in his position. Whereas McCarthy does both sides very well, and Davies looks the real deal that's why I'd have him as third pick.

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I can sort of understand the criticism towards Gana preferring McCarthy over his is funny. Neither has been very good going forward and they seem to score at about the same pace but Gana's tackling clearly sets him apart. He wins way more balls. For instance, McCarthy's best season tackling-wise was last season where he averaged 2.7 tackles and 1.8 interceptions per game. Gana has 4.3 tackles and 2.5 interceptions per game this season. Gana's influence in the middle of the park in general is clearly greater.

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Just read that each place this season is with £1.9m, nearly double that of the previous season. It means roughly an additional £10m in the kitty by finishing 7th instead of 11th, about 50% more than I was expecting

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Just read that each place this season is with £1.9m, nearly double that of the previous season. It means roughly an additional £10m in the kitty by finishing 7th instead of 11th, about 50% more than I was expecting

 

£2m according to this. If it's accurate our total prize money should be around £130m; the table has 7th at £137m but that's skewed because they use last season's TV revenue for each position and for some bizarre reason Wham had more than anyone else.

 

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http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12040/10882712/premier-league-out-of-contract-xi-and-every-player-whos-free-to-leave

 

Navas would be worth a look at. He was being picked over Milner a couple of years ago. Hard worker, but with the usual winger problems.

 

Speroni, would be an upgrade on Stekelenberg and give Joel competition.

 

Adrian, better than Joel. However Robles could potentially be better than him in the future.

 

Sagna, not big on him, but would be good enough to cover until Coleman is back. Baines is getting on so Clichy as well.

 

O'Shea, replace Jagielka.

 

Fletcher, replace Barry.

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http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12040/10882712/premier-league-out-of-contract-xi-and-every-player-whos-free-to-leave

 

Navas would be worth a look at. He was being picked over Milner a couple of years ago. Hard worker, but with the usual winger problems.

 

Speroni, would be an upgrade on Stekelenberg and give Joel competition.

 

Adrian, better than Joel. However Robles could potentially be better than him in the future.

 

Sagna, not big on him, but would be good enough to cover until Coleman is back. Baines is getting on so Clichy as well.

 

O'Shea, replace Jagielka.

 

Fletcher, replace Barry.

 

I wouldn't have a single one you've mentioned. Not one.

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Some hugely poor shouts from Pete there! O'shea??? Only one that I'd take would be Jesus Navas

That's being kind. I wouldn't have Navas near our squad. Way too inconsistent. We need to aim higher if we're to improve and actually challenge the current top 6.

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http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12040/10882712/premier-league-out-of-contract-xi-and-every-player-whos-free-to-leave

 

Navas would be worth a look at. He was being picked over Milner a couple of years ago. Hard worker, but with the usual winger problems.

 

Speroni, would be an upgrade on Stekelenberg and give Joel competition.

 

Adrian, better than Joel. However Robles could potentially be better than him in the future.

 

Sagna, not big on him, but would be good enough to cover until Coleman is back. Baines is getting on so Clichy as well.

 

O'Shea, replace Jagielka.

 

Fletcher, replace Barry.

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

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I'd take Cazorla and that's about it.

He's been injured for most of the season - class player so I hope he can regain fitness... I'm sure he'll get a new deal at Arsenal if he can regain his fitness.

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Great player but he's to old imo for what he'd cost

 

O'Shea and Fletcher are yard dogs massive backward steps

one old head with a flurry of 20-25 year olds would be fine for me, a seasonsed pro who could help bring more off the pitch than on it

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I worry about how many genuine first team players we have at the club, especially worthy of top 6 clubs. I think I have probably been too positive in the past but in terms of genuine week after week starters I only have the following:

 

Coleman (if he returns the same player)

Schneiderlin

Gana

McCarthy (if he stays fit)

Barkley

Davies

Lukaku

 

I would keep the following in the squad to be used as and when required but not to he used week in week out:

 

Barry

Baines

Jags

Williams

Mirallas

Robles (just)

Gerry

 

And then we have the following youngsters that we know about that look like they have a future:

 

Holgate

DCL (dubious)

Lookman (dubious)

 

We need a keeper, a new back 4, we are sorted in the central midfield but we need two wingers, a creative midfielder, and at least another decent striker.

 

That's much less than the teams below us, who maybe have one or two top 6 players but it's a mile off the likes of Spurs and Chelsea. Although it's not far off the likes of Utd or Arsenal however they have lots more in the second category of quality players who can step in when needed.

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I think we need at least 9 in this summer. I know it seems excessive but I want at least 2 quality players in each position. In my head I'd like the squad depth to be something like this...

GK:

1. New GK*

2. Robles

RB:

1. Coleman

2, Kenny

CB:

1. New CB*

2. Williams

CB:

1, New CB*

2, Holgate

LB:

1. New LB*

2. Baines

CM:

1. Gana

2. McCarthy

CM:

1. Schneiderlin

2. Barry

CM:

1. Davies

2. Besic

RW:

1. New RW*

2. Deulofeu

LW:

1. New LW*

2. Mirallas

3. Bolasie (when he's back)

AM:

1. New AM*

2. Barkley

CF:

1. Lukaku

2. New CF*

3. New CF*

 

Getting rid:

1. Stekelenburg

2. Mori

3. Jagielka

4. Kone (Released)

5. Valencia (Back to WH)

 

U23S:

1. Lookman

2. DCL

3. Pennington

 

Loan:

1. Galloway

2. Garbutt

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I worry about how many genuine first team players we have at the club, especially worthy of top 6 clubs. I think I have probably been too positive in the past but in terms of genuine week after week starters I only have the following:

Coleman (if he returns the same player)

Schneiderlin

Gana

McCarthy (if he stays fit)

Barkley

Davies

Lukaku

I would keep the following in the squad to be used as and when required but not to he used week in week out:

Barry

Baines

Jags

Williams

Mirallas

Robles (just)

Gerry

And then we have the following youngsters that we know about that look like they have a future:

Holgate

DCL (dubious)

Lookman (dubious)

We need a keeper, a new back 4, we are sorted in the central midfield but we need two wingers, a creative midfielder, and at least another decent striker.

That's much less than the teams below us, who maybe have one or two top 6 players but it's a mile off the likes of Spurs and Chelsea. Although it's not far off the likes of Utd or Arsenal however they have lots more in the second category of quality players who can step in when needed.

You make a post like that but still don't think Koeman has brought about progress by getting us to where we are now. Hmmm!

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Where do we need to strengthen the most?

 

 

Ok

 

Goal keepers?

 

Center backs?

 

Right back/ Left back/ Wing backs?

 

Center mid/ Defensive mid/ Box to box mid/ Ball playing mid?

 

Attacking mid/ Creative mid/ Wingers?

 

Strikers/ Target man/ Goal poacher?

 

 

What's our priority this summer? What have we already got your happy with? What do we need the most?

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Ill start by saying we need a keeper! A first choice keeper. As much as I like Joel and want him to do good he can't be our number one going forward! I love the fact he gets the club and he's happy here but at the moment he's not a top six goal keeper. In time he might be, he's got all the attributes to do well but he doesn't fill me or our defence with confidence i think. So a new keeper is a priority for me. Who we could get to go straight in is going to be hard, Id break the bank for Fraser Forster.

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A new keeper would be nice and we probably will buy one, but this should be like the 5th or 6th priority in terms of signings. Robles is a B to B+ keeper. Someone list me the occasions where we dropped points because of Robles this season? And then give me the list of the available A-quality goalkeepers who are realistic transfers?

 

IMO if you want to increase efficiency in this squad, the priority of signings should look like this:

1. a quicker, ball-playing central defender to partner Williams

2. a quick tall target-man striker to either replace or supplement Lukaku

3. a right winger who can get 8+ goals and alleviate the goalscoring responsibilities

4. a creative attacking play maker to either replace or supplement Barkley

5. a new goalkeeper

6. a designated right back who has greater crossing accuracy than Mason Holgate

7. a backup left back

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You make a post like that but still don't think Koeman has brought about progress by getting us to where we are now. Hmmm!

He's not alone in this!

 

People do say that Koeman has only done what is expected but then go on to say we need to strengthen in just about every area, then reel off half the squad that needs replacing!!! I think people genuinely forget about the aging process when it comes to football!!!

 

Amazing.

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I really don't get the "where we should be" bollocks

 

Why should we be 7th? That's the whole point of having a league with transfer windows varying managerial changes etc daft logic imo

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I really don't get the "where we should be" bollocks

 

Why should we be 7th? That's the whole point of having a league with transfer windows varying managerial changes etc daft logic imo

We are where our wage bill and net spend is. If you look at league positions they usually land within one or two places of wage bills and money spent.

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Lukaku stays Barkley leaves:

 

Starting GK

Starting CB

Young LB for cover/future

3 forwards - 1 starter to replace barkley, 2 backup to rotate with bolasie/mirallas

 

that's minimum for me. the forwards aren't wingers or ACM they are koeman/barca style players that can playing anywhere across the front 3.

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We are where our wage bill and net spend is. If you look at league positions they usually land within one or two places of wage bills and money spent.

And... Spurs are 6th United are 2nd

 

What were United and Chelsea last season Leicester West ham, you can't use that as a direct reason for a clubs position that generally sits outside the top four

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And... Spurs are 6th United are 2nd

 

What were United and Chelsea last season Leicester West ham, you can't use that as a direct reason for a clubs position that generally sits outside the top four

There will be exceptions Paul- like when we finished 4th under Moyes but we can't be the exception all the time.

 

On the whole you mostly finish where your wage budget and spending is.

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I really don't get the "where we should be" bollocks

 

Why should we be 7th? That's the whole point of having a league with transfer windows varying managerial changes etc daft logic imo

It's where we as fans think we should be finishing with the squad we have.

 

There also nothing wrong with people thinking Koeman has o it done a decent job so far, and then saying we need strengthening....isn't that just normal?

 

If they were saying he has performed wonders and then saying the squad is fine after finishing seventh.... then we become a Southampton.

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It's where we as fans think we should be finishing with the squad we have.

 

There also nothing wrong with people thinking Koeman has o it done a decent job so far, and then saying we need strengthening....isn't that just normal?

 

If they were saying he has performed wonders and then saying the squad is fine after finishing seventh.... then we become a Southampton.

I get that personally I think we should be above United, disjointed with mediocrity running through it but it doesn't work like that

 

He's improved us to down play it with its where we should be is a bit unappreciative of what the man's had to work with etc

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There also nothing wrong with people thinking Koeman has o it done a decent job so far, and then saying we need strengthening....isn't that just normal?

 

Slightly miss the point.

 

It's the insinuation that he should have done more while also saying that the squad needs a lot more in order to achieve more. Seems a bit contradicting to me.

 

(Although I might be misreading what your saying...I'm reading 'has o it' as 'has done a good job'...or is it meant to be 'hasn't done a good job'?)

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The squad needs improving but to add 9 or 10 like people are suggesting is ludicrous.

 

If we change the squad around that much we will effect its harmony. The players that we currently have play half decent together and understand one another's game.

 

Only 4 teams managed to keep more clean sheets than us this season. To bring in a whole new back line would be utter stupidity.

 

We need several players. But not 9 first teamers.

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Slightly miss the point.

 

It's the insinuation that he should have done more while also saying that the squad needs a lot more in order to achieve more. Seems a bit contradicting to me.

 

(Although I might be misreading what your saying...I'm reading 'has o it' as 'has done a good job'...or is it meant to be 'hasn't done a good job'?)

Haha ye my spell checking.

Has done a good job.

 

I don't think most are insinuating he should have done better, just that he has done what we all expected him to do.

It's also not ... in my opinion.... contradicting at all.

I can tell an employee they have done a great job this year, but here are a few places where I think you need to work on.

 

Don't forget that Koeman is manager and that I still believe he has a say in who we sign... Like he said so himself.

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The squad needs improving but to add 9 or 10 like people are suggesting is ludicrous.

 

If we change the squad around that much we will effect its harmony. The players that we currently have play half decent together and understand one another's game.

 

Only 4 teams managed to keep more clean sheets than us this season. To bring in a whole new back line would be utter stupidity.

 

We need several players. But not 9 first teamers.

 

completely agree.

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You make a post like that but still don't think Koeman has brought about progress by getting us to where we are now. Hmmm!

That because the teams below us have very little top 6 quality players. We are where we should be. If you look around the league (below us) how many players would improve our first 11? 1? Maybe 2?

 

Even if you look above us how many have substantially better starting 11's.

 

Arsenal - Cech, maybe Koscielny, Sanchez, Ozil, Ramsey?

 

Utd - De Gea, Bailly, maybe Valencia, Herera, Mkhitarian, Ibra, Rashford, Martial.

 

Liverpool - Henderson, Coutinho, Firminho, Matip, Mane

 

There are probably a couple I have missed but compared to Chelsea, Spurs and City the rest of the teams aren't good enough, it's just that those above us have a few more options in the squad.

 

If we want to progress next season we have to look at getting that depth and quality into the squad. We don't have it but those below us have even less.

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Haha ye my spell checking.

Has done a good job.

 

I don't think most are insinuating he should have done better, just that he has done what we all expected him to do.

It's also not ... in my opinion.... contradicting at all.

I can tell an employee they have done a great job this year, but here are a few places where I think you need to work on.

 

Don't forget that Koeman is manager and that I still believe he has a say in who we sign... Like he said so himself.

Exactly this.

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The squad needs improving but to add 9 or 10 like people are suggesting is ludicrous.

 

If we change the squad around that much we will effect its harmony. The players that we currently have play half decent together and understand one another's game.

 

Only 4 teams managed to keep more clean sheets than us this season. To bring in a whole new back line would be utter stupidity.

 

We need several players. But not 9 first teamers.

They are the number of players we need to move up the ladder though. We will need half a dozen this summer purely for Europe if nothing else as don't forget we got rid a lot of our fringe players in January.

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I'm fine with sticking with our current GKs.... RB is more a concern since there's no guarantee that Coleman will ever be the same player again.... if he can (and I hope he can) fantastic, but we still need someone in next season anyway.

 

Starting RB (Coleman replacement)

Starting CB (Jags replacement)

Starting Forward (Barkley replacement)

Striker (Lukaku comp) or X2 Strikers (Lukaku replacements)

 

If we can get Pickford or Butland for cheap (yeah right) and it doesn't compromise the above than go for it... but I'll rather focus on the above 4-5 signings before a GK.

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Mr. glass half full is completely glass half empty right now. It's the same old Everton. We cannot even sign a free agent backup RB, that seemingly no one else wants, in a timely fashion. WTF. This is shaping up to be a brutal summer.

So we're definitely interested and offered Martina a contract then? Where did you get this official information?

 

People need to relax - I would prefer our business to be done discreetly and only announced when official. We could be close to signing X amount of players - transfers are complex. 100% work is being done on transfers - fact is that all we can go off is paper talk and social media. I get sucked in by rumours every summer - we'll get linked to 100-200 players and maybe sign 6-10 meaning we'll 'miss out' on a fair few 'targets'.

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So we're definitely interested and offered Martina a contract then? Where did you get this official information?

 

People need to relax - I would prefer our business to be done discreetly and only announced when official. We could be close to signing X amount of players - transfers are complex. 100% work is being done on transfers - fact is that all we can go off is paper talk and social media. I get sucked in by rumours every summer - we'll get linked to 100-200 players and maybe sign 6-10 meaning we'll 'miss out' on a fair few 'targets'.

 

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....I think you've selectively missed a few players out here!!!

I wasn't completely fair Newty your right mate, Gana has been a revelation.

 

That's it though, Bolasi hasn't played anywhere near enough games to be judged on and Williams has been a solid defender, but not of the standard we need.

 

So to recap, we've brought in the best ball winner in the league (but let's not get ahead of himself he's still got a lot of his game to work on), a good centre half who is 32, a player who unfortunately got injured, and let's face it not many people plaudits the price tag on him, and a championship team's back up keeper. Oh and the West Ham headless chicken.

 

After last summer I find it difficult to look upwards. It'll be the same shit as last season, waiting for stones to leave before dealings take place, but this year it'll be Rom.

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Schneiderlin?

Yep. And Lookman.

 

Considering our transfers were pretty low key, it wasn't a bad effort! Not great, but certainly not bad.

 

Plus the deadwood...got to mention the deadwood! Although one or two of last year's have now turned into deadwood. Damn!!!

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