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For once in a long time. I’m going to give the team credit for showing up and having a real good go. Well done boys. Keep that effort up and fortunes will change.

Or he's been sent out set put the official club position out there with speculation rife. He can hardly come out and say we need to change manager if the top brass have decided not yet! 

Yep. Means they are in the hunt first though. I'm pretty depressed by the rumour that Silva has been kept on because Kenwright and Moshiri don't agree on what to do next. That spells massive trouble for me. I'd rather both were kept well out of it. Brands has been given a place on the board - for me next manager should be his pick, otherwise what's the point of having a DoF with such a senior position at the club? 

Yep. Means they are in the hunt first though. I'm pretty depressed by the rumour that Silva has been kept on because Kenwright and Moshiri don't agree on what to do next. That spells massive trouble for me. I'd rather both were kept well out of it. Brands has been given a place on the board - for me next manager should be his pick, otherwise what's the point of having a DoF with such a senior position at the club? 

Yep. Means they are in the hunt first though. I'm pretty depressed by the rumour that Silva has been kept on because Kenwright and Moshiri don't agree on what to do next. That spells massive trouble for me. I'd rather both were kept well out of it. Brands has been given a place on the board - for me next manager should be his pick, otherwise what's the point of having a DoF with such a senior position at the club? 

Yep. Means they are in the hunt first though. I'm pretty depressed by the rumour that Silva has been kept on because Kenwright and Moshiri don't agree on what to do next. That spells massive trouble for me. I'd rather both were kept well out of it. Brands has been given a place on the board - for me next manager should be his pick, otherwise what's the point of having a DoF with such a senior position at the club? 

Yep. Means they are in the hunt first though. I'm pretty depressed by the rumour that Silva has been kept on because Kenwright and Moshiri don't agree on what to do next. That spells massive trouble for me. I'd rather both were kept well out of it. Brands has been given a place on the board - for me next manager should be his pick, otherwise what's the point of having a DoF with such a senior position at the club? 

I'm fuming Arsenal have sacked him first. They've lost 3 PL games this season, we've lost 7 and have had a dream run of fixtures really. How much shitter do we have to get before our board say enough is enough? 
And yeah, I was against jumping the gun sacking Silva. But losing at home to Norwich with a display that abject had to be a line in the sand. I honestly cannot believe we haven't acted. 

Our U23s have been good enough to win back to back PL2 titles, they can't be that limited. I'd rather be fielding players who have the potential to improve than 'senior pros' who you know will contribute next to nothing positive. 

Not a great assessment of our fans then. Benitez is a better manager than fatty five chins could ever dream of being. 

So as fans should we just keep holding grudges even if it means cutting our noses off to spite our face? It's a professional game. Look at The job Rodgers is doing at Leicester - forget that he managed the shite, he's a cut above any manger we've had donkeys years, and I'd include Moyes in that despite being a Moyes fan. I know he's not a realistic option now but would we exclude him from our list too on principle? 

Good post. One thing I would say though is he isn't being brave, he's sticking with 4-2-3-1 and fielding players who just aren't up to it. If Gomes, Bernard, Delph etc were fit we'd probably have beaten Norwich, but I wouldn't put money on the XI he put out beating anyone in the PL. 
If it was me in charge I'd be playing 4-3-3 with Beni, Davies and Iwobi in midfield and Richarlison, DCL and Kean/Walcott up front. At the very least we'd have more mobility and hopefully more intent getting the ball into the front 3. I think Kean should be given a go in a front 3, his movement looks decent and he could work well off DCL who is the best target man we've got. I also think it is amazing that in Kean and Iwobi we have 60m in new signings warming the bench while Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin serve up exactly what everyone knows they will serve up, opponents included. That in itself should be setting alarm bells ringing - Silva knows his job is on the line, yet he's still fielding the flops the manager two before him signed instead of his most recent buys. Wtf is going on?? 

Appointed the wrong people. Regardless of who was giving him the advice, he is culpable for listening to it. 

We have serious problems and most of them are coming from seasoned pro’s. Simply put - experienced players are not performing remotely close to required levels.
#1 Gylfi
Price has nothing to do with it - absolutely poor all season and hasn’t made an effect at all. 
#2 Morgan 
Most games he plays he is 6/10 for 89 minutes and has 1 howler of a moment. 
#3 Strikers 
Cant score goals - not getting chances but also poor finishing. Silva has tried nearly every option ( everyone screamed for Tosun to start and he was terrible ). I actually don’t blame Silva here because he’s trying every option to make something click but no one wants to take up the mantle.
#4 - 4-2-3-1
Gana leaving and Gbamin’s injury have really left us short for this formation. Morgan isn’t up to it.
Confidence must be shot and I think Marco is seriously struggling and is in a damned if you, damned if you don’t. Anything he does right now with be met with ridicule “if” it doesn’t work. 

He brought in youngsters like Stones and players like Lescott and turned them into world class players going for millions and costing pennies. 
He gave us Arteta who was on the scrap heap in Spain, he got us Cahill for peanuts, he got Jagielka a relegated midfielder and turned him into one of the best CH in the league, he got us Baines and helped turn him into one of the best LB in the world. 
Moyes knows a player when he sees one, something that no one seems to know how to replicate since he left. 

Well. What to do, what to do?
You guys n gals know me from previous times like this - I back the manager until I can no more, which is usually quite a bit after the hardcore have been shouting n screaming since the original appointment. I like to give the manager my full backing, and tend to find the positives in the appointment. And continue to let hope and the positives drive my thoughts until it's impossible to do anymore. I was the same with Moyes, Martinez, Unsworth, Koeman...Fat Sam never got a sniff to be honest, I sussed that fucker straight off...and now Silva.
Silva. Clean looking, young, exciting, a touch of positive arrogance, well thought of within the game. The project was on. The man for the next 5 years, to take us forward into a new stadium and up the table. There would be wobbles I said, but it's all part of the learning curve. So long as we show we are learning from said wobbles, then that's fine. It would take a good 2-3 years to stabilise. To get rid of dead wood. To get the squad balanced. And we would inch our way forward bit by bit. We needed to think of it as a long term project. Stop rushing, sacking, spunking cash on shite. Silva. Brands. Sorted. Patience needed.
But now I'm at that 'end of the road' point like I eventually got to with the previous lot. And the route of it, for me, is seeing how we have not learnt from the mistakes. When we went through that rough spell last season (Dec - Feb?), it was woeful. We were making the same mistakes over and over. Then we seemed to get over it, fix it, and push on. Happy days. But to then see the exact same shit happening again, those exact same errors - that's unforgivable. Really, it's not acceptable. It reveals that Silva is clearly lacking in key areas of his mentality when it comes to playing the game. That we are seeing the same sort of performances, coming unstuck time and again, defensive errors and wasted opportunities time and again, you all know what I mean.
We've now lost 7 games from 13. We are now looking at losing 15 - 20 games this season. Unforgivable. For the investment, that's diabolical. The squad we have, ok, it's not a top top squad, but it's better than 7 defeats in 13 when you've only played a couple of the real top teams.
But what next? I've no idea. I know the likes of Moyes, Unsworth, Big Dunc get a big NO from me. But who else can we get? Poch? That would be amazing and I'd slash tyres if we haven't initiated any contact. Realistic? Nope. I've no idea who. I mean, Emery was the cream of the crop a couple of years ago but he's struggled too, so you just don't know.
What I do know is that this is really disappointing, the whole project over the last few years has been a car crash. And I've no idea what we do next. Sack him, start again for the, what, 4th time in recent years? More money spent, more players to get rid of at a fraction of their cost, more expensive contract write offs etc.
I just find myself shrugging my shoulders and shaking my head. More questions than answers I'm afraid.
Hope you've all been well by the way 👍

Sean Dyche would be bright enough not to pick fucking Morgan Schneiderlin and Cenk Tosun

I'm afraid Moshiri is a big part of the problem. Club has been a mess since he got involved. 

Our U23s have been good enough to win back to back PL2 titles, they can't be that limited. I'd rather be fielding players who have the potential to improve than 'senior pros' who you know will contribute next to nothing positive. 

I was gobsmacked anyone on here said they were happy with a team that included Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson and Tosun. Delusional thinking a team featuring those three can compete with any team in the Prem league. Silva is clearly delusional too and massively out of his depth. Another dreadful appointment by Moshiri. His position is untenable but I have zero faith Moshiri will get it right next time. What a fucking mess. 

No there is no conviction at all from him. If we wants to play wide and throw balls in then why play with a 10 at all? Go two up and play like Burnley. We are a team of contradictions.

This is what really worries me. 

Sean Dyche would be bright enough not to pick fucking Morgan Schneiderlin and Cenk Tosun

I think that’s the bigger issue.  If he somehow lets brands decide I think we will be ok but farhad is the one that worries me. 

Blames the players when things go wrong, makes it all about him when things go right... And some of you lot want Mourinho! 😅