Bailey

That's the problem with the whole vote. Both sides had prominent politicians who were talking rubbish. I have heard a lot of people raise arguments on both sides, pre and post vote, quoting information they believe to be correct when in reality it is a load of rubbish but people believe it because they heard it somewhere and it stuck. For example a lot of the leave voters I know in Portsmouth wanted out on the basis that we could stop immigration. They completely failed to recognise that immigration is a good thing when done properly and it's unlikely that the numbers will change, albeit their country of origin might. Despite being a leaver, I tried to explain this point to many of my family and friends (the Mrs side) but they couldn't grasp it and fell back to their Daily Mail arguments because that is what suits their own agenda (no jobs, can't get a council house, etc etc).

Even if it stops one other lad in the U23s going down that route then it is worth it. It will be interesting to see how he does.

He is like a Magpie for the ball. I certainly wouldn't want him at the back.

Same number of goals as Valencia already

Unfortunately that is the problem with politics. Too many people at the top more concerned with doing things to piss off the other party (s) than doing what's best for the country and it's people.

Pickford I agree but not fussed about the rest, we should be aiming at better. Although to contradict myself I think Macarthur is an underrated player, any side below the top 7 should be looking at him. If Swansea went down then Sigurdson.

There are so many sides still in trouble, it seems closer than normal. Sunderland and Hull would be the most likely candidates, unsure about the 3rd.

Yeh he was brilliant tonight, put a couple of chances on a plate for his team mates to miss!

I stopped reading after "fine eye"

Haf if you can't recognise the difference in the quality of the balls he is receiving now, the options he has, the areas of pitch he is playing in then you have a screw loose mate. If you look at the reasons Barkley has improved then they are the same reasons Rom had improved, and also a microcosm of why the team has improved. Quite simply, if you play for a better team you get more opportunities to show what you have to offer.

So you are saying the way we have played hasn't changed since the beginning of the season, specifically in the period we were playing shite and Lukaku was getting slagged off, and the last half dozen games where we are playing better and he is being praised? I take you back to my Costa argument comparing this season and last.

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In fairness Klopp came in half way through the season which is always more difficult.

Service has changed massively, how on earth can you say it hasn't?

The difference between now and before is the service. Stop supplying him and he will start sulking again.

Haha I think it's called A3 or A7 or something like that.

I think they spent around £30mil in the summer but no-one they have brought in has been any good, bar the loans. I am a bit surprised that they let Giacherinni go on loan as well. I'm surprised they haven't tried loaning more players.

I think Chelsea are pretty decent. On another day they could have beaten Spurs as one team took their chances the other didn't. Without Mane Liverpool have lost their pace and have less threat in behind.

Has anyone seen the clips on YouTube of American football without pads and helmets. Looks much better too me. Too easy to be all macho in a helmet and plastic pads.

But at the same time you can't legally smoke, drink or drive. IMO you shouldn't legally be able to bring a child into this world at that age either but it's not like you can lock up a couple of 15 year olds for having a quickie. I think the law is probably there to protect kids against perverted adults taking advantage of children more than anything. Technically the law is also against having sex, not having children. You can have a child as soon as you are physically mature enough, doesn't mean you should be able to vote. Bar the odd one or two kids here and there, at 16 you are simply not mature enough to make a decision like that. You know nothing of the world at that stage.

I don't agree. You are legally a child until you are 18, not just unable to vote. At 16 there is no way I would have been able to understand the complexities of making any decision like this. Then again most adults don't either!

But then Europe see our 'hand' as it will have to be put to the nation. In the vote you didn't vote for anyone to have the final say, it would always be the government at the time of the decision.

Do Parliament get to veto whether we exit or not or can they just decide how we exit?

That's our democracy at its finest irrelevant of the party. The last unelected PM sold our gold reserves at the bottom of the market amongst many other things. Going back to the legal challenge, this should have been done before the vote. If the nation is given a vote then the result should be honoured or these lawyers etc should have kicked up a fuss before the event not after the result was known. Out of interest what happens? Do Parliament get to decide? Both houses? Etc

It's also good to see Barkley make that type of run!