Cornish Steve Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 A few days ago, I came across this recording online of 'The Rite of Spring', and it's very well done. As background for those unfamiliar with classical music, this music by Stravinsky, written in 1913, coupled by ballet choreography by Nijinsky, was so revolutionary that during its first performance, in Paris, fist fights broke out among the audience. It depicts a prehistoric ritual climaxing with a human sacrifice. There are some awesome productions of the ballet itself available on YouTube, including a BBC documentary film entitled 'Riot at the Rite'. (The final frenzied dance of the sacrificial victim is gripping to watch.) If you don't fancy listening to the whole 35 minutes of this performance, may I recommend three one-minute excerpts starting at 10:30, at 15:00, and at 24:00. This will introduce you to the power of this work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 52 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: A few days ago, I came across this recording online of 'The Rite of Spring', and it's very well done. As background for those unfamiliar with classical music, this music by Stravinsky, written in 1913, coupled by ballet choreography by Nijinsky, was so revolutionary that during its first performance, in Paris, fist fights broke out among the audience. It depicts a prehistoric ritual climaxing with a human sacrifice. There are some awesome productions of the ballet itself available on YouTube, including a BBC documentary film entitled 'Riot at the Rite'. (The final frenzied dance of the sacrificial victim is gripping to watch.) If you don't fancy listening to the whole 35 minutes of this performance, may I recommend three one-minute excerpts starting at 10:30, at 15:00, and at 24:00. This will introduce you to the power of this work. Can I ask Steve, because I have no idea how classical composers work, a question or two. Does the composer when writing transcribe every note for every section/instrument in the orchestra? Also, looking at one of the sections you highlight, at around 15:45, the french horn players are focused on, and all are playing but one. Does a score say that seven of eight (or whatever) should be playing at that point? Possibly he's the lead and has other responsibilities, I don't know. Not my thing as you know, but I'm seriously interested in the mechanics of how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, MikeO said: Does the composer when writing transcribe every note for every section/instrument in the orchestra? These days, of course, you transcribe parts with the click of a button. For example, you'd need to transpose a part up a tone for a Bb instrument (such as a clarinet) so the played note is correct. When I was 15, I wrote a piano concerto. I wrote everything as if all instruments played at the same pitch and then spent many dreary days transposing many of the parts. I'm guessing that established composers way back when would hire people to transpose parts, since it's a rather mundane process. 19 minutes ago, MikeO said: Also, looking at one of the sections you highlight, at around 15:45, the french horn players are focused on, and all are playing but one. Does a score say that seven of eight (or whatever) should be playing at that point? Possibly he's the lead and has other responsibilities, I don't know. There are several reasons why this might happen. 1) In some works, the composer (or even the conductor) might request that fewer play a section as a way of reducing volume. 2) Of course, there are going to be many horn parts - maybe solo horn, first horn, and second horn - and the second horns may not be playing at the moment. 3) A player has an issue with the instrument (with a horn, he might need to blow out spittle that's accumulated and affecting the sound) or may simply be tired and resting during a section when it doesn't really matter. That guy seems to be a little out of sync (his is the only horn held vertically) so I'm guessing it's case 3. A little later, you can see him remove the mouthpiece, so something's up. Later again, he's playing just fine. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 7, 2022 Report Share Posted April 7, 2022 44 minutes ago, MikeO said: Can I ask Steve, because I have no idea how classical composers work, a question or two. Does the composer when writing transcribe every note for every section/instrument in the orchestra? Also, looking at one of the sections you highlight, at around 15:45, the french horn players are focused on, and all are playing but one. Does a score say that seven of eight (or whatever) should be playing at that point? Possibly he's the lead and has other responsibilities, I don't know. Not my thing as you know, but I'm seriously interested in the mechanics of how it works. By the way, the ballet is just as powerful. This excerpt, from that BBC re-enactment of the work's premiere, shows how dance can capture the emotions of a victim being sacrificed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 I'll have a look for the ballet, @Cornish Steve. That was my wife's major and she still loves dance. Any one in particular uou recommend? I only know The Firebird which is quite an epic piece, so will give it a go later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 Not long back from seeing Foals in Blackpool. Waited 2 and a half years but my word that was incredible. The support band was fun too, Yard Act. Very clever and fun lyrics and act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MikeO Posted May 26, 2022 Report Share Posted May 26, 2022 Andy Fletcher dead at sixty; Depeche Mode were hit and miss for me, but at their best excellent, this being an example. Saddened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 One for Mike MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Matt said: One for Mike Shows promise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, MikeO said: Shows promise On a strat too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Matt said: On a strat too Read up on him, seems he also plays a 335 so he does have some good taste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 Listening to a programme about the closing down of the pirate stations and just heard "I want to go back there again" by Bill Kenwright and the Runaways. 1967 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 Listening to Forrest fans celebrating their win over the not so happy hammers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, Palfy said: Listening to Forrest fans celebrating their win over the not so happy hammers. Forrest fans are people who like this guy... You are listening to Forest fans Romey 1878, Matt and Palfy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dunlopp9987 Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Truly don't know how I made it this long without hearing this guy. His latest album Bronco is absolutely incredible. Guy has such a throwback, old country sound to his voice and some of his music, but so inventive and fresh as well. Highly, highly recommended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 17, 2022 Report Share Posted September 17, 2022 Stumbled across this, I was there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 16 hours ago, MikeO said: Stumbled across this, I was there I wouldn’t have put you down as someone who would have turned up to a Sham 69 gig, pleased you did though Mike it’s nice to be transported back to happier times, when pogoing and playing football was the only form’s of exercise one needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 New Polyphia album dropped. They are simply unreal, obscene talent. This one is just gorgeous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MikeO Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 @Palfy's request, band from my home town Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, MikeO said: @Palfy's request, band from my home town Thanks for that Mike. After the ending of SAS last night I played the Strangles for a few hours today, after not playing anything of theirs for eons. I love it that music has the ability of wakening something inside of you that's been dormant for a while, and bringing back good memories. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gwlad Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just heard Liverpool Llullaby by Cilla. Always makes me think of visits to the city in the 60s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 40 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: Just heard Liverpool Llullaby by Cilla. Always makes me think of visits to the city in the 60s. Gratuitous parental violence not a great vibe though Lass had an amazing voice in her youth but the TV "celebrity" she became was horrible to watch imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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