MikeO Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 He's gone on loan to Port Vale. Subbed on 54 minutes today; sacrificed for replacement 'keeper when Vale's was sent off. So probably not one of their stand-out performers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-youngsters-poignant-message-fans-9692835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 I reckon he was never quite good enough to make it here and certainly won't make it here now given his lack of progress over the years. I hope he proves me wrong though. I have to think we would've flat out released him if he didn't have SOME potential/talent. Ideally he'll make it here, but more likely the best case scenario is him making it in the Championship or moving to Portugal or some other lesser league and being successful there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 wonder if george green and he were drinking buddies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 I reckon he was never quite good enough to make it here and certainly won't make it here now given his lack of progress over the years. I hope he proves me wrong though. I have to think we would've flat out released him if he didn't have SOME potential/talent. Ideally he'll make it here, but more likely the best case scenario is him making it in the Championship or moving to Portugal or some other lesser league and being successful there. Strange isn't it? He's obviously rated by someone to have been around this long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 he's been around this long because of his contract 4.5 years was stupid. It should never be this long unless you absolutely know he's that good. He will probably be here till it expires or he does improve if possible. That's exactly what I'm saying. Why offer him a contract like that? I agree, it was a bit short-sighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) he's been around this long because of his contract 4.5 years was stupid. It should never be this long unless you absolutely know he's that good. He will probably be here till it expires or he does improve if possible. any idea when this contract does end? let's hope it's this year. EDIT: looked it up. he signed jan 2012. if it's 4.5 year deal that's either summer 2016 or winter 2016/2017. OUCH :dont know: Edited July 21, 2015 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 We could just release him and pay whatever fee he would be owed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 When he first signed he has being compared to Viera. City had paid compensation just to have him train for a short time, stupid money too considering. The lad had all the promise in the world and lost it to booze, like quite a few others we gave decent contracts to. Nothing to do with being shortsighted. Not being clairvoyant maybe, but then you're being ridiculous. Quinn31, markjazzbassist, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 When he first signed he has being compared to Viera. City had paid compensation just to have him train for a short time, stupid money too considering. The lad had all the promise in the world and lost it to booze, like quite a few others we gave decent contracts to. Nothing to do with being shortsighted. Not being clairvoyant maybe, but then you're being ridiculous. Totally agree Imagine if we had given him a 2 year deal and he had started fulfilling his potential, then walked away for nothing. The same people would be saying it was short sighted not to sign him on a longer deal Quinn31, Romey 1878 and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 any idea when this contract does end? let's hope it's this year. EDIT: looked it up. he signed jan 2012. if it's 4.5 year deal that's either summer 2016 or winter 2016/2017. OUCH :dont know: It was in the article that Dunc posted, four and a half year deal signed in Jan 2012. No need to look it up, just read the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/news/article/everton-pair-francisco-junior-and-jonjoe-kenny-join-wigan-on-loan-2560298.aspx Just gone on loan to Wigan with Jonjoe Kenny markjazzbassist and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Sounds like he won't be setting the world on fire any time soon. That being said, maybe a bit of focus/drive as well as first team football could reignite his career. Impressed with Jonjoe Kenny as he is quite young. It'll be impressive if he can get into the Wigan team every week given that they are a bigger side by League 1 standards given their past decade spent in higher divisions (Not that their club-long history is one of upper division football and great success). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 He scored the winner for Wigan today right at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 End of an era... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Heartbroken. Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/francisco-junior-everton-failure-moyes-10990634 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/francisco-junior-everton-failure-moyes-10990634thats tough. Hope he fulfills his potential at some point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Quite insightful that interview. Important to remember how tough it is for players on the periphery who go through trials of life. I used to see Van Der Meyde out in our local (3 stags) apparently he was a piss head.... in my eyes he wasn't, just had a very very sad and troubled look on his face. When you find out he had a sick daughter it all makes sense. People wouldn't expect someone to play with a broken leg, but they are expected to play with a troubled mind. To some players like Gazza it was an opportunity to escape, to others it's a feeling of being put under a microscope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 He's in the Guinea-Bissau squad for the Africa Cup of Nations. He's expected to make his international debut today against Gabon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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