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49 minutes ago, Formby said:

Bayer Leverkusen came back from 2-0 down to draw 2-2 against Roma. Absolutely unreal achievement this season. Still unbeaten.

Crazy. And in the last month or so, I honestly think they've had four or five games where they've scored the equalizer in stoppage time to avoid defeat

Edit: yep I was right. That was their EIGHTH equalizer in the final 5 minutes this season, twice as many as any other team in Europe's top 5 leagues

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4 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said:

Crazy. And in the last month or so, I honestly think they've had four or five games where they've scored the equalizer in stoppage time to avoid defeat

Edit: yep I was right. That was their EIGHTH equalizer in the final 5 minutes this season, twice as many as any other team in Europe's top 5 leagues

And they'll fact Atalanta in the Europa League final on May 22 in Dublin. 

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Couple of notes heading into this weekend:

-The battle to avoid relegation could be over after the matches this weekend. Burnley would be officially relegated if they lose at Spurs as their only chance to survive is to win their two remaining matches (final match is home vs. Forest) and have a lot break their way in terms of Forest and Luton and their results. If both Burnley and Luton (who are away to West Ham) lose, then Forest would only need a draw at home against Chelsea to be assured of survival. 
-Even though I'd be shocked if it happened (and I'm sure the PL will do everything they can to keep it from happening), if Klopp gets a yellow card at Villa on Monday, then he would have to serve a touchline ban for his final match in charge of the shite against Wolves next weekend.

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3 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said:

That's the relegation spots sorted then. Burnley and Luton just ran out of steam at the end here

In the case of Burnley, yes. Luton are not mathematically eliminated but would have to make up a pretty sizable goal difference, depending on how Forest-Chelsea goes later today. 

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On 11/05/2024 at 19:32, StatesideToffee14 said:

Chelsea defeats Forest 2:3. While Luton is still mathematically alive, they'd have to make a +12 GD advantage that Forest has to be assured of safety.

Or Forest have to capitulate...

Anyway, anyone taking odds on a Spurs victory or draw over City via a blatant VAR error just so the title goes down to the final day? Wonder what the predicted money for that would be vs City winning at Spurs.

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6 minutes ago, Matt said:

Or Forest have to capitulate...

Anyway, anyone taking odds on a Spurs victory or draw over City via a blatant VAR error just so the title goes down to the final day? Wonder what the predicted money for that would be vs City winning at Spurs.

It goes down to the final day even if City win.

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What's at stake tomorrow:

Points title
-Manchester City: Clinches title with a win vs. West Ham or a draw and a loss by Arsenal. Effectively if they don't win, they need to match Arsenal's result.
-Arsenal: Clinches title with win vs. Everton and Manchester City draw or loss. If Arsenal and City are tied on points, then Arsenal would win the title based on the better goal differential.

Europa League
-Spurs: Clinch a Europa League spot with a draw vs. Sheffield United or a loss and a draw or loss by Chelsea.
-Chelsea: Clinch a Europa League spot with a win vs. Bournemouth and a Spurs loss as Chelsea would have the goal difference tiebreaker.

Conference League
-Chelsea: Clinch a Conference League spot with a draw or a loss by Newcastle United.
-Newcastle United: Clinch a Conference League spot with a win at Brentford and a loss by Chelsea as the Magpies would have a better goal difference.
-Manchester United: Clinch a spot in European football next season with a win or a draw against BHA and a loss by Newcastle or a draw and a loss by Newcastle.

Many of the permutations related to the Europe placements are also dependent on whether Manchester United wins the FA Cup Final. If they win, then they would get a Europa League spot. If they lose and Newcastle finishes ahead of them on points, then Newcastle gets the Conference League spot. If Manchester United finishes ahead of Newcastle in the table, then they'll qualify for European football, regardless of what happens in the FA Cup final.   

Relegation
-Forest: Only need a draw vs. Burnley to be safe. If they lose, it would take a lopsided defeat by them and a lopsided victory by Luton for Forest to be relegated.
-Luton Town: Must defeat Fulham by at least six goals and hope that Forest loses by at least six goals to survive. If by some chance that happened, then Luton would stay up based on having a higher number of goals scored (Forest currently has 47, Luton has 50). 

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2 hours ago, StatesideToffee14 said:

What's at stake tomorrow:

Points title
-Manchester City: Clinches title with a win vs. West Ham or a draw and a loss by Arsenal. Effectively if they don't win, they need to match Arsenal's result.
-Arsenal: Clinches title with win vs. Everton and Manchester City draw or loss. If Arsenal and City are tied on points, then Arsenal would win the title based on the better goal differential.

Europa League
-Spurs: Clinch a Europa League spot with a draw vs. Sheffield United or a loss and a draw or loss by Chelsea.
-Chelsea: Clinch a Europa League spot with a win vs. Bournemouth and a Spurs loss as Chelsea would have the goal difference tiebreaker.

Conference League
-Chelsea: Clinch a Conference League spot with a draw or a loss by Newcastle United.
-Newcastle United: Clinch a Conference League spot with a win at Brentford and a loss by Chelsea as the Magpies would have a better goal difference.
-Manchester United: Clinch a spot in European football next season with a win or a draw against BHA and a loss by Newcastle or a draw and a loss by Newcastle.

Many of the permutations related to the Europe placements are also dependent on whether Manchester United wins the FA Cup Final. If they win, then they would get a Europa League spot. If they lose and Newcastle finishes ahead of them on points, then Newcastle gets the Conference League spot. If Manchester United finishes ahead of Newcastle in the table, then they'll qualify for European football, regardless of what happens in the FA Cup final.   

Relegation
-Forest: Only need a draw vs. Burnley to be safe. If they lose, it would take a lopsided defeat by them and a lopsided victory by Luton for Forest to be relegated.
-Luton Town: Must defeat Fulham by at least six goals and hope that Forest loses by at least six goals to survive. If by some chance that happened, then Luton would stay up based on having a higher number of goals scored (Forest currently has 47, Luton has 50). 

In years gone by I used to pull my hair out (well, would've done if I had any:P) trying to explain how the European qualification places worked, thank-you for making it so clear. Hopefully one day it'll become relevant to Everton again!

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2 hours ago, MikeO said:

In years gone by I used to pull my hair out (well, would've done if I had any:P) trying to explain how the European qualification places worked, thank-you for making it so clear. Hopefully one day it'll become relevant to Everton again!

In our lifetime I hope mate we’re not getting any younger Mike. 

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5 hours ago, MikeO said:

In years gone by I used to pull my hair out (well, would've done if I had any:P) trying to explain how the European qualification places worked, thank-you for making it so clear. Hopefully one day it'll become relevant to Everton again!

Once they add in the Europa Conference Championship Also-Rans League, we're a shoo-in to just barely miss out on qualification 😎

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Bayer Leverkusen defeated FC Augsburg 2:1 today and became the first side to finish a Bundesliga season undefeated. They have 2 matches remaining to finish undefeated in all competitions. They play Atalanta in the Europa League final on Wednesday in Dublin. They face Kaiserslautern in the German Cup final next Saturday in Berlin. 

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