pete0 Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Defender on for a striker just invites pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Defender on for a striker just invites pressure. What was he supposed to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 What was he supposed to do? Leave it as it was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 What was he supposed to do? Keep the ball up the other end of the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee_in_LA Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Defender on for a striker just invites pressure. Kind of have to disagree there. There were only about 2 minutes left and he brought in a tall defender to defend a free kick. If he would have brought in Heitinga... then I would have a problem with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Defender on for a striker just invites pressure. we were under pressure so he tried to but one a tall, strong defender to count Smith? Completely correct call. Ref screwed us there but honestly, they deserved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Unfuckingbelievable. Maybe it's rash, but I blame the Jellyfish here. We need to be putting teams like this away and we had more than enough chances. If it wasn't for Howard we'd have lost this. We really look shite at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Oldham were coming at us and bringing on a defender was the sensible thing to do. I can't understand why people are bashing Moyes for that decision, their striker was about 6'5 and needed someone of a similar height to mark him (Shane Duffy being the perfect person). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Honestly, I really thought Oldham deserved that equaliser. Overall I thought they were the better team. We just have to make sure we do not slip up in the replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Where the hell did the 4 extra minutes occur ! Well there's your easy victory, I'm sure some people think against lower division clubs all you have to do is turn up! There are even some who are already predicting an easy replay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 The replay will be on 27 Feb at 7.45pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Oldham were coming at us and bringing on a defender was the sensible thing to do. I can't understand why people are bashing Moyes for that decision, their striker was about 6'5 and needed someone of a similar height to mark him (Shane Duffy being the perfect person). If that was the reason Duffy would have been on the pitch soon after Smith come on. Moyes was negative and it once again bit him on the arse. People made out Heitinga scoring justified this tactic last time out, but more often than not it doesn't work like tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 The replay will be on 27 Feb at 7.45pm. Live TV again most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Live TV again most likely. Money, money, money! We might be able to fund a loan at this rate . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Moyes brings on our biggest player/defender, to counter a 6' 6" attacker playing for a team who will throw everything high into the area......and he gets stick.Do some people actually understand the basics of the game. Zoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearthainn Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 The replay will be on 27 Feb at 7.45pm. Ah well at least it's one more match to go to. Tickets should be cheap as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 That's three games with Oldham now in the last 23 years in the FA cup and we can't win a first game. Yes we got a replay and whether they deserved it or not, the time is came was just something else. Fuck it, at least we got another chance and are in the 6th round draw. could have been eliminated tonight of all things, but got real angry with what occured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Banks Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I'm not surprised. The performances over the last three months have told me all. We'll not get top four and I wouldn't be surprised if we sink a few places while Liverpool, Swansea & Arsenal slowly stroll past us. Lacking in ideas. Lacking in funds. A manager who will wait until the end of the season before making his move (which I think will be away). I can't understand it - the players we have should be beating teams like Oldham. The lack of depth, the lack of top-draw players (which I don't count Jelly as), everything is set up to make every game, whether against Oldham or Manchester United, a slog. I'm a positive Everton fan (.....I know....) and I want David Moyes to resign but I find it hard to see how we're supposed to look at european football. I mean, seriously.. I'm really upset at this result so you should probably ignore all of this waffle. ....sigh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 So, about the substitution. Yes the justification is that an extra centre back was needed to defend against the height of Smith. But it didn't work. So there's also a very good argument for leaving the striker on instead of having the whole team defending and inviting what then happened (i.e. Smith goal). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Absolutely furious right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Moyes brings on our biggest player/defender, to counter a 6' 6" attacker playing for a team who will throw everything high into the area......and he gets stick.Do some people actually understand the basics of the game. 2 questions Why didn't he make the sub sooner? and what's the best form of defence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) I'm not surprised. The performances over the last three months have told me all. We'll not get top four and I wouldn't be surprised if we sink a few places while Liverpool, Swansea & Arsenal slowly stroll past us. Lacking in ideas. Lacking in funds. A manager who will wait until the end of the season before making his move (which I think will be away). I can't understand it - the players we have should be beating teams like Oldham. The lack of depth, the lack of top-draw players (which I don't count Jelly as), everything is set up to make every game, whether against Oldham or Manchester United, a slog. I'm a positive Everton fan (.....I know....) and I want David Moyes to resign but I find it hard to see how we're supposed to look at european football. I mean, seriously.. I'm really upset at this result so you should probably ignore all of this waffle. ....sigh.... The Arsenal team that will stroll past us, is that the same Arsenal team that lost at home to Blackburn today!....and the Oldham team we should be beating, is the same team that BEAT the liverpool team you think will also stroll past us.....just doesn't add up! Edited February 16, 2013 by Blue 250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Moyes brings on our biggest player/defender, to counter a 6' 6" attacker playing for a team who will throw everything high into the area......and he gets stick.Do some people actually understand the basics of the game. The 6' 6" attacker had been on the pitch for more than half an hour and not scored against the team we had on the pitch. The substitution was to waste time, pure and simple. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 The substitution was to waste time, pure and simple. Was to waste time and was a good tactical decision. You can't blame Moyes for the goal, it shouldn't have been allowed - pure and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazil Banks Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 The Arsenal team that will stroll past us, is that the same Arsenal team that lost at home to Blackburn today!....and the Oldham team we should be beating, is the same team that BEAT the liverpool team you think will also stroll past us.....just doesn't add up! Yes and yes. Makes my stomach sink but I think it will happen. Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Was to waste time and was a good tactical decision. If your tactics have worked for thirty five minutes why do you need different ones for the last ninety seconds? The last thing we needed were more bodies in the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 The 6' 6" attacker had been on the pitch for more than half an hour and not scored against the team we had on the pitch. The substitution was to waste time, pure and simple. What the hells wrong with wasting time!.Blaming Moyes is just childish. Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 It was obviously Heitinga's fault. He was absolutely nowhere to be found today in our defense. pete0, Toffee_in_LA and Fearthainn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 If your tactics have worked for thirty five minutes why do you need different ones for the last ninety seconds? The last thing we needed were more bodies in the box. So Maybe Moyse should have taken a couple of defenders off, kind of unclutter the penalty area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 What the hells wrong with wasting time!.Blaming Moyes is just childish. Nothing at all if it's necessary....but "If it ain't broke don't fix it." We didn't need to waste time,...we were comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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