duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-hope-bedrooms-players-finch-10987788 markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-hope-bedrooms-players-finch-10987788 great news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 It'd be nice if we could own it first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 It'd be nice if we could own it first. But surely that would just take funds away from buying players, etc. It's a trend in business right now to outsource, and it makes a lot of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 But surely that would just take funds away from buying players, etc. It's a trend in business right now to outsource, and it makes a lot of sense. With a billionaire owner, does it make sense to pay rent for the foreseeable future on a facility that is ours in every way but the deed, or does it make sense to own the property and not throw money away? Out-sourcing is great on paper, and it's a brilliant way for short term savings (3-5y), but long term it's a waste and usually comes back in-house, with which come the transfer costs involved, retraining, rehiring, etc. and quite often consumes a lot of the savings the out-sourcing was supposed to achieve. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Outsourcing is not necessarily a waste. If you can invest the money saved on something that gives more income than the building rent then it's a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Here are the links to the planning documents if anyone's interested. http://edm.knowsley.gov.uk/Northgate.WebSearch/ExternalEntryPoint.aspx?SEARCH_TYPE=1&DOC_CLASS_CODE=DC&FOLDER1_REF=14/00665/FUL There's since been further proposals to add dugouts, 250 seats and floodlights to one of the pitches, plus toilets for visitors. http://edm.knowsley.gov.uk/Northgate.WebSearch/ExternalEntryPoint.aspx?SEARCH_TYPE=1&DOC_CLASS_CODE=DC&FOLDER1_REF=14/00665/NMANew building ground floor: https://i.imgur.com/5NVJx8V.jpg New building first floor (13 recovery/bed rooms)https://i.imgur.com/XPXjbls.jpg Enhancements to pitch surroundings, new toilets, and a new groundsman building: https://i.imgur.com/aHNeLOH.jpg Long-term plan:https://i.imgur.com/7JA3G8z.jpg Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) Here are the links to the planning documents if anyone's interested. http://edm.knowsley.gov.uk/Northgate.WebSearch/ExternalEntryPoint.aspx?SEARCH_TYPE=1&DOC_CLASS_CODE=DC&FOLDER1_REF=14/00665/FUL There's since been further proposals to add dugouts, 250 seats and floodlights to one of the pitches, plus toilets for visitors. http://edm.knowsley.gov.uk/Northgate.WebSearch/ExternalEntryPoint.aspx?SEARCH_TYPE=1&DOC_CLASS_CODE=DC&FOLDER1_REF=14/00665/NMA New building ground floor: https://i.imgur.com/5NVJx8V.jpg New building first floor (13 recovery/bed rooms) https://i.imgur.com/XPXjbls.jpg Enhancements to pitch surroundings, new toilets, and a new groundsman building: https://i.imgur.com/aHNeLOH.jpg Long-term plan: https://i.imgur.com/7JA3G8z.jpg Looks impressive. It's already a well respected facility. But those additions look good. Like that even more pitches are being added. Edited March 4, 2016 by Lowensda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Yeah, there's a lot going on. I forgot to mention there were separate academy accommodation facilities planned too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I really dont see the renting of the land as a big issue. Ok it would be great to not pay any rent at all, but compared to the value of the site, the rent is very cheap and more than manageable with the turnover the club has. I'm more concerned by what mortgages might be left on GP than the rent on FF. New plans look very impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Outsourcing is not necessarily a waste. If you can invest the money saved on something that gives more income than the building rent then it's a good idea. This is true, I was thinking about it purely from my experience and what we're going through now. But, I agree, depending on the type of business it could be beneficial, just in my case it's very short sighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 IIRC the rent is less than 1 million pa (800k?). Originally we paid double that but after LCC bought the land the price went down. The site must be at least 20 times more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 IIRC the rent is less than 1 million pa (800k?). Originally we paid double that but after LCC bought the land the price went down. The site must be at least 20 times more expensive. Didn't the council buy it for 13m? Even if we bought it and they wanted to make a profit, we could own it within 15 years. Not a massive incentive I know but all the time we develop and facilities on land that we don't own, it makes me uneasy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I'd say very few companies own their offices. You have to factor in the fact that it costs to own the land as well. Landlord doesn't get to keep the whole rent. And besides, I doubt LCC would cancel the agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Outsourcing is not necessarily a waste. If you can invest the money saved on something that gives more income than the building rent then it's a good idea. And the inflation rate on transfer prices far exceeds the inflation rate on FF rent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 We should own FF done time soon. LCC bailed us out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted March 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 There's since been further proposals to add dugouts, 250 seats and floodlights to one of the pitches, plus toilets for visitors. http://edm.knowsley.gov.uk/Northgate.WebSearch/ExternalEntryPoint.aspx?SEARCH_TYPE=1&DOC_CLASS_CODE=DC&FOLDER1_REF=14/00665/NMA The Liverpoool Echo are reporting that today, aren't they Romey? (Proper thread!) http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-academy-stadium-set-built-11055799 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-release-first-images-finch-11114612 markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-release-first-images-finch-11114612 U21s leaving the Merseyrail Community Stadium ! John (Burns) is not going to be happy! markjazzbassist and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-release-first-images-finch-11114612 looks amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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