Cornish Steve Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Games in Europe are quite different from games in the Prem. They are a lot more cagey, a lot more strategic, and a lot less entertaining in our eyes. We shouldn't translate that to mean that we're not playing well. The results speak for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Games in Europe are quite different from games in the Prem. They are a lot more cagey, a lot more strategic, and a lot less entertaining in our eyes. We shouldn't translate that to mean that we're not playing well. The results speak for themselves.spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Games in Europe are quite different from games in the Prem. They are a lot more cagey, a lot more strategic, and a lot less entertaining in our eyes. We shouldn't translate that to mean that we're not playing well. The results speak for themselves. spot on So we struggled to string passes together because the games in Europe are different? Not being able to do the basics right is inexcusable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 So we struggled to string passes together because the games in Europe are different? Not being able to do the basics right is inexcusable.Games are very different tactically. Just because we're underperforming doesn't change that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Games are very different tactically. Just because we're underperforming doesn't change that But our whole problem was that we couldn't pass to save our lives for big chunks of the game, that's got fuck all to do with the games being different tactically. MC11 and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 But our whole problem was that we couldn't pass to save our lives for big chunks of the game, that's got fuck all to do with the games being different tactically. After the game, both managers commented on the pitch. Apparently it was very heavy and slow due to a lot of recent rain. Yes players must adjust, but it explains why so many passes were not completed by both teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 After the game, both managers commented on the pitch. Apparently it was very heavy and slow due to a lot of recent rain. Yes players must adjust, but it explains why so many passes were not completed by both teams. Some of the loose passes were down to the pitch but a lot of the misplaced passes were ridiculous and absolutely nothing to do with the pitch. MC11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 But our whole problem was that we couldn't pass to save our lives for big chunks of the game, that's got fuck all to do with the games being different tactically.Neither Steve nor I mentioned passing, so I don't get your point? I was agreeing that European games are tactically very different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Neither Steve nor I mentioned passing, so I don't get your point? I was agreeing that European games are tactically very different People were concerned at our performance, Steve said the games are very different (tactically) in Europe, but people were concerned about the performance (partly) because our passing was atrocious, which is nothing to do with tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 People were concerned at our performance, Steve said the games are very different (tactically) in Europe, but people were concerned about the performance (partly) because our passing was atrocious, which is nothing to do with tactics.Ok, missed that. I just took the statement as it was, which I still agree with. Can't comment on the game as I was in the hospital Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Wolfsburg proving lethal once again against Krasnodar. Statistics: Total shots: 17-16 On target: 7-6 Score: 5-1 Two late goals, four in total by substitutes (Hunt & Bendtner). Edited November 6, 2014 by millwallforever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Wolfsburg proving lethal once again against Krasnodar. Statistics: Total shots: 17-16 On target: 7-6 Score: 5-1 Two late goals, four in total by substitutes (Hunt & Bendtner). Krasandor are shite mate. But I reckon we'll get a hiding at Wolfsburg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) From the UEFA site: "In the last 32, group winners and the four third-placed sides from the UEFA Champions League with the best records are seeded, guaranteeing they will play the second leg at home. Teams from the same group or the same association cannot be drawn together. From the round of 16 onwards, the draw is free." We need to win this group. Now that we are in pole position, there is no need to hand over the momentum to the Germans. We will have to do our utmost to make life as hard possible for Wolfsburg. Edited November 6, 2014 by millwallforever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 We need to win this group. Now that we are in pole position, there is no need to hand over the momentum to the Germans. We will have to do our utmost to make life as hard possible for Wolfsburg. They're second behind Bayern in the Bundesliga currently and on a great run (won their last five) so not easy, but with the support we'll have there all is possible. Say it for every away game in Europe, a draw is enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 They're second behind Bayern in the Bundesliga currently and on a great run (won their last five) so not easy, but with the support we'll have there all is possible. Say it for every away game in Europe, a draw is enough. agreed, that match more than most. a draw would be a massive result there. i feel the last fixture at home against Krasnodar is winnable and hopefully they'll be out of the competition by then and field a low strength team. the Wolfsburg match is paramount now. COYB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 They're second behind Bayern in the Bundesliga currently and on a great run (won their last five) so not easy, but with the support we'll have there all is possible. Say it for every away game in Europe, a draw is enough. This. Win our home games and draw the aways and I'm happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLord Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Congratulations,real good and leg-printing victory against Lille.This meet in my hometown each other, the two best of this group. I especially look forward to hopefully loud support from your supporters.If anyone still needs a few tips on where you can drink a few beers before, I'm happy to help. Or other advices like traffic and so on.Maybe we'll meet, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) MADE UP, won our group. Guaranteed a seed for the round of 32 with the other group winners and the top 4 teams from Champions League (the rest of the 3rd place CL guys are unseeded). Here are the other possible teams Group A - Borussia Monchengladbach, Villarreal, FC Zurich Group B - Brugge, Torino, Helsinki Group C - Spurs, Besiktas Group D - Salzburg, Celtic Group E - Dinamo Moscow, PSV Eindhoven Group F - Inter, Other 3 wide open (St. Etienne, FK Qarabag, Dnipro) Group G - Feyenoord, Sevilla, Rijeka Group H - Everton, Wolfsburg Group I - Napoli, Sparta Prague, Young Boys Group J - Dynamo Kiev, AAB, Steaua Bucuresti Group K - Fiorentina, Guingamp, PAOK Salonika Group L - Legia Warsaw, Trabzonspor CL 3rd place teams - Group A - Olympiakos 6 points Group B - Liverpool 4 pionts, Basel 6 points Group C - Zenit St. Petersburg 7 points, AS Monaco 8 points Group D - Anderlecht Group E - Roma, CSKA Moscow, Man City all 5 points Group F - Ajax 2 points, Apoel 1 point Group G - Sporting Lisbon 7 points, Schalke 04 5 points , NK Maribor 3 points Group H - Athletic Bilbao 4 points, Bate Borisov 3 points Of the possible 2nd place teams I really don't want to play Villarreal, Borrussia Monchengladbach, and Sevilla. Some of the 3rd Place CL guys could be trouble as well such as Roma, Zenit, Bilbao, and Olympiakos. Not really scared by any others. Edited November 28, 2014 by markjazzbassist MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest millwallforever Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Thanks for the very useful overview. I would assume that we as group winners will meet a second place team from another Europa League group?? Celtic would be nice; like playing a mediocre Championship side :piss: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Thanks for the very useful overview. I would assume that we as group winners will meet a second place team from another Europa League group?? Celtic would be nice; like playing a mediocre Championship side :piss: possibly (yes i'd love that matchup). the group winners and top 4 CL 3rd place teams get seeded. all 2nd place europa and other 4 CL teams are unseeded. So we'd play one of them, which could be some difficult teams depending on the results (sevilla, zenit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 There are a LOT of very good sides we can get in the first knock out stage. Knowing our luck we'll get the hardest draw possible but regardless, there are still plenty of really really good sides that are not seeded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Id actually like to get Villarreal... We owe them one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Id actually like to get Villarreal... We owe them one! I thought that reading this thread yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 There are a LOT of very good sides we can get in the first knock out stage. Knowing our luck we'll get the hardest draw possible but regardless, there are still plenty of really really good sides that are not seeded. You need to see the glass as half full, not half empty. We're seeded, and we're going to play an unseeded team. That's much better than playing a seeded team. To win the whole thing, we're going to have to play strong sides eventually, so there's no point fretting about it right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 You need to see the glass as half full, not half empty. We're seeded, and we're going to play an unseeded team. That's much better than playing a seeded team. To win the whole thing, we're going to have to play strong sides eventually, so there's no point fretting about it right now. I'm not seein the glass as anything nor am I fretting. The simple fact of the matter is we can get a hard team whether we're seeded or not. Obviously I'd prefer us to be seeded but just because we are doesn't mean we're getting an easy ride. There is going to be a fair few un-seeded teams that are as good if not better than some seeded so it's a bit of the luck of the draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 possibly (yes i'd love that matchup). the group winners and top 4 CL 3rd place teams get seeded. all 2nd place europa and other 4 CL teams are unseeded. So we'd play one of them, which could be some difficult teams depending on the results (sevilla, zenit) It's guaranteed we'll get Sevilla and Deulofeu will have hand knocking us out.... **vault** it markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 The first 4 teams from CL 3rd place to Europa are here. Olympiakos, Liverpool, Zenit St. Petersburg, and Anderlecht. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 The first 4 teams from CL 3rd place to Europa are here. Olympiakos, Liverpool, Zenit St. Petersburg, and Anderlecht. And Liverpool have the worst record of those four, so they will need to be almost impossibly lucky tonight to be seeded for the last thirty-two (too many permutations to be specific); not that we could be drawn against them, the draw isn't completely open until the last sixteen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 And Liverpool have the worst record of those four, so they will need to be almost impossibly lucky tonight to be seeded for the last thirty-two (too many permutations to be specific); not that we could be drawn against them, the draw isn't completely open until the last sixteen. spot on. i've been reading the rules of the league and getting familiar as well. i'm just glad we're seeded, it should help a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I've got a feeling we'll draw Anderlecht. Is it true we're away first as the seeded team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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