smulliga Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 When this first happened it was supposedly a one match absence as a precautionary measure because he had been concussed, now all we know is it's "a soft tissue injury" ( where is the soft tissue on your head ? ) but no update on when he is coming back or if he is even training, the club really are lousy at communicating these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I'm pretty sure I have read somewhere that he has since picked up a hamstring or groin injury. I think it's the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve blue Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) That's what annoys me with Martinez , he plays down injuries , jags last year , soft tissue injury to me means a bruise not a six week hamstring , now Coleman with a bang on the noggin causes a hamstring , Barkley pre season WTF What is worrying is the amount of hamstring injuries we pick up , I often wonder if it's the artificial surface we train on contributing to this or his training regime , Edited October 9, 2014 by Steve blue evilweevil666 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Yeah, he was out with concussion then did his hamstring in training, which is a soft tissue injury. Damn. Not sure why peeps get heated over a soft tissue injury being described as a soft tissue injury. We do seem to struggle with injuries in recent history but then we do have tend to have small pools of quality in our squads so we notice the impact of injuries more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 That's what annoys me with Martinez , he plays down injuries , jags last year , soft tissue injury to me means a bruise not a six week hamstring , now Coleman with a bang on the noggin causes a hamstring , Barkley pre season WTF What is worrying is the amount of hamstring injuries we pick up , I often wonder if it's the artificial surface we train on contributing to this or his training regime , Said this many a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Yeah, he was out with concussion then did his hamstring in training, which is a soft tissue injury. Damn. Not sure why peeps get heated over a soft tissue injury being described as a soft tissue injury. Exactly I really don't understand it. Moaning for the sake of moaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Exactly I really don't understand it. Moaning for the sake of moaning. Nitpicking. A lot of it going on just now. Us 'men' are worse than bitches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smulliga Posted October 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Exactly I really don't understand it. Moaning for the sake of moaning. Sorry , beg to disagree ! A pulled hamstring is a hamstring, an Achilles is an Achilles, a dead leg is a dead leg, soft tissue is bruising. evilweevil666 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Sorry , beg to disagree ! A pulled hamstring is a hamstring, an Achilles is an Achilles, a dead leg is a dead leg, soft tissue is bruising. Beg to differ all you like. Go do a bit of research. I'll help you.... Soft tissue injury A Soft tissue injury (STI) is thedamage of muscles, ligaments and tendons throughout the body. Common soft tissue injuries usually occur from a sprain, strain, a one off blow resulting in a contusion or overuse of a particular part of the body. Maybe you're getting your STI's mixed up?! evilweevil666 and chicagoblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Actually just noticed the word 'contusion'. So we are all correct! Happy days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve blue Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Contusion: Another name for a bruise. What is a bruise ? A bruise, or contusion, is caused when blood vessels are damaged or broken as the result of a blow to the skin (be it bumping against something or hitting yourself . Even so I would rather Berto just come out an say that rather than being left out as a precaution , same as jags last year , I understand he keeps his cards close to his chest but honesty rather than a positive spin on everything is sometimes a better option evilweevil666 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smulliga Posted October 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 O.k. So Roberto is trying to be cute, suddenly a hamstring is no longer called a hamstring (most other clubs continue to call it a hamstring however) it's called a "soft tissue injury" as must be, ligament and tendon damage, add to that sprains and we might as well call all injuries a "soft tissue injury" doesn't sount quite as bad as a torn hamstring does it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Sorry , beg to disagree ! A pulled hamstring is a hamstring, an Achilles is an Achilles, a dead leg is a dead leg, soft tissue is bruising. Soft tissue is anything that isn't either hard tissue (bones/teeth) or an organ; so I agree that "soft tissue injury" is a pretty useless catch-all description that's really pretty meaningless; but strictly speaking he's being accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve blue Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Good point , let's just get him back asap , Jesus we need him , Barkley hopefully back at the end of the month as well on another note would anyone try besic at centre half his original position ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Here's Martinez on injuries recently. He seems specific enough? "Sylvain needed a bit of a rest. He is fully fit, has trained really well and is ready to fight for a place in the team," Martinez added. "It's too early to tell whether Coleman and McCarthy can play against Villa. We are going to assess them day by day. "Kevin has got a typical sprinting injury. "We expect him to be out for a few weeks as well. "Kevin does not need surgery, just conservative treatment. We hope to have him fully fit soon." "Bryan has reacted well to the procedure," he said. "In a couple of days, he will be working towards selection again." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Anyway, I've just give myself a slap for being overzealous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Don't say that Newty82 he hasn't given the exact injury name, or given a date they start training or named the game they will next play and in which position. What on earth are all of us doctors and physios on TT going to do now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) No matter how Newty tries to dress things up, Martinez should be more clear on all aspects of Injurys. He is by far the worst communicator we've had in my life time on Injurys. He talks in riddles. Just say it as it is. Ie john Stones is looking at a minimum of 3months. Ross Barkley is looking a 4 months. Job done we all move on and we arent all guessing and complaining when he's says they should be back in training.... 3 weeks later they've only just started kicking a ball again, it's as though he's scared to admit players are going to be out for a long time. Edited October 9, 2014 by MC11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve blue Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 We just need them all back as quick as possible or our hopes for this season will take a soft tissue injury , it's been a really dissapointing month for us with results and injuries . Onwards and upwards COYB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 We can't change anything. Bobby should just tell all of moaning twats "he'll be back when he's back" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Who's this MC11? Reminds me of an equally irritating poster...went by the name of MiguelCunto. No Brett and Bailey...Martinez must give a full diagnosis and exact length of lay off in his post match interview. Like every manager does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) Who's this MC11? Reminds me of an equally irritating poster...went by the name of MiguelCunto. No Brett and Bailey...Martinez must give a full diagnosis and exact length of lay off in his post match interview. Like every manager does. Columbo? Is that you? It's Sherlock.... Over http://www.toffeetalk.com/index.php?/topic/26656-username/&do=findComment&comment=430687 Edited October 9, 2014 by MC11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Hands up all those who are qualified physios? No one? Oh, wait, is that you Roberto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Hands up all those who are qualified physios? No one? Oh, wait, is that you Roberto? Actually I am, in Sports Injury Prevention. No joke. But i've avoided this topic. For me, if he's out, he's out, nothing we can do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Martinez must give a full diagnosis and exact length of lay off in his post match interview.Why does he have to do this? Following North American sports would drive you crazy. All you ever get in hockey is "upper body" or "lower body" injury. In the NHL and NFL, they try to hide exactly what the injury is, so that nobody can specifically target it in a game. Some teams even put players on their injury reports to make opposing teams think they might not start the next game. I'd rather have Roberto stay relatively vague on injuries. That way, even if we may be unsure if we will have Coleman or Ross starting the next match, other teams will prepare for them. Then, maybe we get a mismatch elsewhere on the pitch at the next match. Edited October 10, 2014 by JoeQuince markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Why does he have to do this? Newty was saying it tongue in cheek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Newty was saying it tongue in cheek. Goddammit. Sometimes it's tough to tell who's whining and who's being sarcastic when the bitching and moaning has been so over-the-top and absurd lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Why does he have to do this? Following North American sports would drive you crazy. All you ever get in hockey is "upper body" or "lower body" injury. In the NHL and NFL, they try to hide exactly what the injury is, so that nobody can specifically target it in a game. Some teams even put players on their injury reports to make opposing teams think they might not start the next game. I'd rather have Roberto stay relatively vague on injuries. That way, even if we may be unsure if we will have Coleman or Ross starting the next match, other teams will prepare for them. Then, maybe we get a mismatch elsewhere on the pitch at the next match. exactly tom brady had a lower body injury every game one season just cause he wanted to keep the other team thinking he might not play. there might be strategy here and that's why RM is coy, also maybe they just don't know. i'd rather have he's out, and then (like with ross now) he'll be in training next week. that's much better than the Kone out 8 months, then another setback, then no he's not fit, then he's still hurting. too much information, if he isn't playing or match fit i could care less of the timetable. just tell me he's out and when he's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Columbo? Is that you? It's Sherlock.... Over http://www.toffeetalk.com/index.php?/topic/26656-username/&do=findComment&comment=430687 Fuckin hell it's you! Gutted. Thought you'd keeled over and fell into a hole. Would never have guessed that MC11 was actually MiguelCotto who's favourite player is No.11, Kevin Mirallas. Had me there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Goddammit. Sometimes it's tough to tell who's whining and who's being sarcastic when the bitching and moaning has been so over-the-top and absurd lately. It can help if you read previous posts?!!! Anyway, it's always tough to tell in 'type'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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