MC11 Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 OMFG....some of the shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 It's ok MC, just allow people to appreciate a good midfielder who is committed to the team. We aren't calling him the best player in the team or the most talented player in the team. Just appreciating him in the way carragher does along with the likes of Roy Keane. It's not like it's the rolling stones vs the Beatles or blur vs oasis. It's possible just to buy both bands albums without the need to be a fanboy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 It's ok MC, just allow people to appreciate a good midfielder who is committed to the team. We aren't calling him the best player in the team or the most talented player in the team. Just appreciating him in the way carragher does along with the likes of Roy Keane. It's not like it's the rolling stones vs the Beatles or blur vs oasis. It's possible just to buy both bands albums without the need to be a fanboy. What ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 It's ok MC, just allow people to appreciate a good midfielder who is committed to the team. We aren't calling him the best player in the team or the most talented player in the team. Just appreciating him in the way carragher does along with the likes of Roy Keane. It's not like it's the rolling stones vs the Beatles or blur vs oasis. It's possible just to buy both bands albums without the need to be a fanboy. The wonderful life of Walter Mitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Thought process of a juvenile forum poster:- "I love Kevin Mirallas" Then "People are giving too much love to James McCarthy" Then "I need to tell them that Kevin Mirallas is the best player in the team" Then "They think he's ok, talented but a bad attitude and use McCarthy as an example of a good attitude and what he brings to the team" Then "I will tell them McCarthy is average" Then "They aren't really bothered and just dismiss my comments" Then "I need to make them realise how great my Kevin is" Then "Ffs I'm being taken the piss out of everyone because I'm blaming Martinez for mirallas behaving like a prick" Then "Back to the James McCarthy thread it is then" Anyone remember Gunter Parche? If I was James McCarthy I wouldn't take any throw ins too close to the fans.... Matt and Chach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofanon Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 I don't think McCarthy is a Gerrard type far from it tbh hatred of the man aside he's a different level and has far more ability and to his game than McCarthy will ever have in my eyes He's a great young player but he's more of a Mascherano type I think Henderson is on the right path to partly filling the void he's left/leaving Agreed. I'm going to get slated for this...but Gerrard at his prime is 100x the player than anyone we have at the club right now Ross has the raw ability to be as good (or better) but only time will tell how that pans out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Agreed. I'm going to get slated for this...but Gerrard at his prime is 100x the player than anyone we have at the club right now Ross has the raw ability to be as good (or better) but only time will tell how that pans out. Wouldn't say 100 times like but you're right, in his prome he was much better than anything we have had for years. Barkleys a different type of player annd he wont get anywhere near Gerrards standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Basically Gerrard and Scholes are the best 2 midfielders England have had since Gazza and there hasn't been anyone close to them. Scholes was the better of the two IMO. McCarthy is more of a Keane type player, you wouldn't compare Keane to Gerrard so I don't see the point in comparing McCarthy to Gerrard. If he gets goals to his game and gets more forward then he has potential to be a real eye opening player. Matt and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/455867/Arsenal-Tottenham-target-James-McCarthy-leave-Everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/455867/Arsenal-Tottenham-target-James-McCarthy-leave-Everton Don't want him to leave, but looking at our club as a supporter of another club you would be pissing yourself. I could totally understand it if McCarthy and Stones leave, as gutted as I will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 If its true I don't blame him..beat the rats off the titanic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Its strange but, gosling ( perhaps garbutt as well ) aside, we are generally very very good at renewing or rewarding players contracts. Younger players who have performed well even with 3-4 years left have had new contracts to reward their progression. McCarthy should have gotten a new contract if he is only on 40-50k but who knows the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Great, another story about a player wanting out. Even if all these stories aren't true (Mirallas, Stones, McCarthy) I think the mere fact that the stories are out there show where we're at as a club this summer - not a good place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) I find it amazing that McCarthey goes and has a conversation with Martinez about his contract with a reporter in the room! I mean that's just asking for trouble! Martinez himself has openly said McCarthey is loving life at Everton and I'm sure he's on a decent contract as he's one of our most important players. Shite story by a journalist with a bit of time on his hands and a page to fill! Edited July 26, 2015 by smeghead1 MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Anyone who doesn't want to play for us can leave if all they are interested in is money,no one is irreplaceable. Btay only 40 or 50 grand ffs. Almost every player is only interested in themselves. How much money they can make or how to get a move to a club that offers more money. Trophies are a nice bonus, as is CL football. Do you really think Lukaku, Mirallas, etc. care about Everton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Anyone who doesn't want to play for us can leave if all they are interested in is money,no one is irreplaceable. Btay only 40 or 50 grand ffs. I see how that came across. I more meant his performances warrant that he be up around the 60k mark with the other key members of the squad. 40-50k isnt alot for a footballers wage, its just the way it is now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Both of those sides are graveyards for midfielders especially Spurs if true and he had any sense he'd surely know he wouldn't play constantly Arsenal have Coquelin who has rapidly cemented his place and Spurs have an abundance of midfielders Tinted glasses aside he'd have been perfect for United before LVG fully got his hands on a blank cheque book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 "If" this is true - (I for one would love to know how it's got out). I kinda understand, Rom is on a well publicised £75k a week, jags £60k as well as Coleman I believe. The lad deserves parity with top earners IMO. It's the way the game has gone, more tv money = more agents mischief. Btay and Chach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 "If" this is true - (I for one would love to know how it's got out). I kinda understand, Rom is on a well publicised £75k a week, jags £60k as well as Coleman I believe. The lad deserves parity with top earners IMO. It's the way the game has gone, more tv money = more agents mischief. Thats sort of what i meant earlier. I feel he contributes around the same as the boys on the higher pay packet and i think its fair enough that he ask to be around that wage too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Do you think that the papers do this because they hate the fact that we don't make all of our business known to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 I've said this loads of times, he's not long signed for usz he will get his bigger deal after this season imo when he's done 3 years of this one. Everyone moans at the board for being shit but why pay him more money if we don't have to? Players can't expect to sign a 5 year deal then automatically double their salary in 12 months flat. He signed for 5 years on those terms, it's perfectly reasonable to expect to play 3 seasons on them then get an improved deal if warranted in the 4th year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 I've said this loads of times, he's not long signed for usz he will get his bigger deal after this season imo when he's done 3 years of this one. Everyone moans at the board for being shit but why pay him more money if we don't have to? Players can't expect to sign a 5 year deal then automatically double their salary in 12 months flat. He signed for 5 years on those terms, it's perfectly reasonable to expect to play 3 seasons on them then get an improved deal if warranted in the 4th year. i agree to an extent but when one player is pulling his tripe out every game and others aren't you have to question your worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 I'd argue that a massive part of "performance management" is ensuring your employees feel they are fairly reimbursed for what they do compared to their peers. Contracts mean nothing with players who are money motivated. Agents know this and footallers do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-open-james-mccarthy-talks-6155252 Not like the Mirror to try and sell one of our players! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 He's not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 What have we done to the Mirror? Always complete w*nkers toward us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 The mirroe and Echo all part of the same newsgroup. There you go! Especially when they have Brain Reade and that McGovern writing for them who are big reds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 mccarthy wont go to spurs. nip this shit in the bud and pay him what he is worth. Barkley is reportedly on £70k and was/is the future of english football. get somewhere near and tie him up for fucks sake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 I would be shocked if Barkley was even on half that much. He has potential, but he hasn't done anything to warrant a salary like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Whispers that he's close to signing a new 5 year deal. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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