duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/04/29/do-report-everton-want-to-sign-marseille-fowrard-lucas-ocampos/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 6'2" and 185 lbs. primarily a winger and has been for many years, i don't see this as the striker solution. Pass from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: 6'2" and 185 lbs. primarily a winger and has been for many years, i don't see this as the striker solution. Pass from me. Maybe Silva isn'tt looking for an out and our centre forward, but rather 2 or 3 forward players that can all rotate across the front line. Or maybe it is a turd article, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 29, 2019 Report Share Posted April 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Aidan said: Maybe Silva isn'ttt looking for an out and our centre forward, but rather 2 or 3 forward players that can all rotate across the front line. Or maybe it is a turd article, who knows. he scores about 3-5 goals and assists that many each year regardless of if he's with marseille, monaco, or in italy. i don't see how that would translate to be our big goal scoring machine in a league that's more difficult. i agree with your second statement, i think it's a turd article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Still eyeing him, according to David Ornstein: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Has looked great for Sevilla in the last few rounds of Europa. Powerful, bit of a unit, think he could handle the premier league. Not sure where exactly he fits for us, but I like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 I see we are linked with him again. This season for Sevilla hes played 13 on the left side (5 goals 3 assists) and 23 on the right (10 goals, 1 assist). Last season he managed 5 goals and 7 assists for Marseilla in 37 apperances. Takes a lot of shots on and likes to beat a man. Seems to muck in in and work hard as well. This is statistically as I've never seen him play but he seems to have a similar profile to Richarlison. Only downside is he's another right footed player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, Aidan said: I see we are linked with him again. This season for Sevilla hes played 13 on the left side (5 goals 3 assists) and 23 on the right (10 goals, 1 assist). Last season he managed 5 goals and 7 assists for Marseilla in 37 apperances. Takes a lot of shots on and likes to beat a man. Seems to muck in in and work hard as well. This is statistically as I've never seen him play but he seems to have a similar profile to Richarlison. Only downside is he's another right footed player. Wonder if he could work in a midfield 3 (with say 2 of Gomes, Allan, Doucoure), or only as an attacker StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, chicagoblue said: Wonder if he could work in a midfield 3 (with say 2 of Gomes, Allan, Doucoure), or only as an attacker I had this conversation with a mate today. Honestly think the three of them could be a good mix in the middle. But I also like us having two up front rather than just a lone striker. Maybe in a front three if we could pick up a striker than can also play on the wing (like Richarlison) and have them play either side of DCL. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, chicagoblue said: Wonder if he could work in a midfield 3 (with say 2 of Gomes, Allan, Doucoure), or only as an attacker I've been thinking this since the Doucoure links. It would be strange for us to buy 2 central midfielders who would be expecting to start when we already have Gomes. Carlo may want us to line up in a 433. Maybe he sees this formation more suitible as Gomes would have 2 players doing the dirty for him with Richarlison as a left forward where he is comfortable. I dont think he has ever played in central midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, StevO said: I had this conversation with a mate today. Honestly think the three of them could be a good mix in the middle. But I also like us having two up front rather than just a lone striker. Maybe in a front three if we could pick up a striker than can also play on the wing (like Richarlison) and have them play either side of DCL. Ocampos seems to have the physique of a striker so him being linked would make sense if that's what hes going for. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, StevO said: I had this conversation with a mate today. Honestly think the three of them could be a good mix in the middle. But I also like us having two up front rather than just a lone striker. Maybe in a front three if we could pick up a striker than can also play on the wing (like Richarlison) and have them play either side of DCL. I think the 3 man midfield is the go for us. We need to add another goal scoring forward and this guy fits the bill with those stats. Iwobi needs to become one of the more advanced of 2 midfielders as well - he is not a winger/forward imo. richarlison DCL Ocampos Midfielder Gomes Allan Something like that StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, Btay said: richarlison DCL Ocampos Doucoure Gomes Allan Fits perfectly. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 I agree with Aidan. I was agreeing with Btay, and then he mentioned playing Iwobi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, StevO said: I agree with Aidan. I was agreeing with Btay, and then he mentioned playing Iwobi. Think he would be far better a bit more centrally (or at least good enough to sell in 6 months without losing our shirt). All at sea on the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 I keep hearing this idea he’s a number ten. I’ve barely seen him play the kind of passes needed in that area. I just don’t see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Aidan said: Fits perfectly. I like him, he’s a powerhouse and all that but if there’s a James Rodriguez available for £8m or barca are moving Rakitic on Id be leaning towards either of them first. Either way, that midfield you said - dominates most games we play and can hold their own against some of the top teams in the league. 2 hours ago, StevO said: I agree with Aidan. I was agreeing with Btay, and then he mentioned playing Iwobi. We need to play him to get any return if we sell him. I think he would be suited to a roll similar to what I mentioned more so than stuck on the wing. Played the 10 role against west ham and he ran the show. Tough first season for him but he can play a bit StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Btay said: We need to play him to get any return if we sell him. I think he would be suited to a roll similar to what I mentioned more so than stuck on the wing. Played the 10 role against west ham and he ran the show. Tough first season for him but he can play a bit He did well late in the game agaisnt Utd when he was moved into a deeper roles as part of a true 3 man midfield as well. He wasn't there for long but he played like a midfielder rather than an attacker dropping deeper. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 12 hours ago, Bailey said: He did well late in the game agaisnt Utd when he was moved into a deeper roles as part of a true 3 man midfield as well. He wasn't there for long but he played like a midfielder rather than an attacker dropping deeper. People talking about Gomes mentality in games and Iwobi also seems to drop his head when things aren't going well. We don't have many that step up in those times. Not knowing what his natural position doesn't help either, I wonder where he prefers to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Aidan said: People talking about Gomes mentality in games and Iwobi also seems to drop his head when things aren't going well. We don't have many that step up in those times. Not knowing what his natural position doesn't help either, I wonder where he prefers to play. I’m not sure what happened to Iwobi. When he first signed - his best quality is getting the ball and carrying the team upfield with his dribbling, on the half turn and just drives at the other team. 13 hours ago, Bailey said: He did well late in the game agaisnt Utd when he was moved into a deeper roles as part of a true 3 man midfield as well. He wasn't there for long but he played like a midfielder rather than an attacker dropping deeper. Exactly. See him in a very similar mould to the ox across the park. Needs to work on his shooting as he sends it over far too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 He's linked with Wolves today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 13 hours ago, Aidan said: People talking about Gomes mentality in games and Iwobi also seems to drop his head when things aren't going well. We don't have many that step up in those times. Not knowing what his natural position doesn't help either, I wonder where he prefers to play. I wouldn't disagree, I think he falls into the typical Arsenal mentality of the final Wenger years which has caught on at Everton. From what I have seen with all of our wingers, they have struggled in a 442. Due to our overall play, they have spent a lot of time deep in our own half and they are doing a lot more defending than they are used to. I don't think any of our wingers have played consistently well under Ancelotti. Walcott has played better, but that's because he is operating almost as the 3rd striker when he does get forward but I doubt that will be something he maintains. 12 hours ago, Btay said: I’m not sure what happened to Iwobi. When he first signed - his best quality is getting the ball and carrying the team upfield with his dribbling, on the half turn and just drives at the other team. Exactly. See him in a very similar mould to the ox across the park. Needs to work on his shooting as he sends it over far too much. There is definitely a player there and I think he would benefit from playing regularly and in a more central position however I don't see where he fits into our current set up. Matt and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Btay said: Needs to work on his shooting as he sends it over far too much. He’d fit in well here then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Bailey said: I wouldn't disagree, I think he falls into the typical Arsenal mentality of the final Wenger years which has caught on at Everton. From what I have seen with all of our wingers, they have struggled in a 442. Due to our overall play, they have spent a lot of time deep in our own half and they are doing a lot more defending than they are used to. I don't think any of our wingers have played consistently well under Ancelotti. Walcott has played better, but that's because he is operating almost as the 3rd striker when he does get forward but I doubt that will be something he maintains. There is definitely a player there and I think he would benefit from playing regularly and in a more central position however I don't see where he fits into our current set up. Rotation at the moment. Id rather see him come on than walcott these days and like you mentioned, centrally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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