markjazzbassist Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 If we get slaughtered here an already upset fan base might reach critical mass. I’m hoping sam concocts some sort of Leicester victory where We defend like Italians for 90 minutes and Cenk bangs in the winner in extra time. Sadly I think we will get beat 3 or 4 to nil. Pickford coleman Jags Mori Baines Gana Davies Rooney walcott Cenk Bolasie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Yes I'd go with that. Please don't let Keane or Schneiderlin near the team. plaidharper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 If we had a manager with some nous we'd tell our left winger to just run at Alexander-Arnold in this game because he is fucking awful defensively. As it is, we'll sit back and hope to absorb what they throw at us and hope they don't beat us too heavily. Watching them play with style and vigour as they hammer us is going to hurt like hell. pete0 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 My brother was well ahead of the curve.... he wanted us 5-0 down at half time. 1. To get that prick allardyce sacked and out of our club 2. Man city could take their foot off the gas and rest players in order to beat Liverpool in the champions league. Cos let's face it..... Liverpool could win the CL 3. If man city play at their best vs Liverpool it will stop their momentum. Liverpool could play man city at 100% intensity for 120 minutes and still piss all over us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: If we had a manager with some nous we'd tell our left winger to just run at Alexander-Arnold in this game because he is fucking awful defensively. Was thinking the same watching their match yesterday. Probably the worst full back in the league. No idea how he's getting a game for them lot. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 We need men to go out on the pitch for this one, players like Jags, Colman,Davies and Rooney who know how to fight and hit hard and understand what this game means, and most importantly we need a ref who understands it's a derby and isn'tt brandishing yellows and reds all over the place, it may not be pretty but there's more than one way to skin a cat and that's to battle for every ball and knock them off their stride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: If we had a manager with some nous we'd tell our left winger to just run at Alexander-Arnold in this game because he is fucking awful defensively. As it is, we'll sit back and hope to absorb what they throw at us and hope they don't beat us too heavily. Watching them play with style and vigour as they hammer us is going to hurt like hell. Agreed. Zaha was constantly running off him yesterday. The lad can really whip a ball in but just run off him time and time again and you will get a couple of chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir McGiven Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Pool's biggest handicap is their defense IMO. Their attacking force is almost like City, Salah is playing like an Egyptian god right now but their defense making them vulnerable more than City. As long as their attackers marked well enough, Everton can turn things around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Agreed their defense is terrible but we don’t have a manager who knows how to attack so it’s moot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 GOD HELP US!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 hour ago, yamar said: GOD HELP US!!!! Yamar your bigger than that mate stop the negative shit, I know it's hard but let's believe if just for a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 I fancy us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Quinn31 said: I fancy us. Me too. I fancy us to get squashed like a bug. MikeO and Quinn31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Not confident at all. I dread the derby most of the time, but this feels so much worse than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, tonkaroost said: Not confident at all. I dread the derby most of the time, but this feels so much worse than usual. It’s actually entered my mind to not go and just watch it on the tv instead. Thats not right at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 It’s actually entered my mind to not go and just watch it on the tv instead. Thats not right at all. I don't even know if I'll watch it(I will), but I fucking hate it. I bet THEY are looking forward to it though. I really hope City crushes them in CL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 54 minutes ago, tonkaroost said: I don't even know if I'll watch it(I will), but I fucking hate it. I bet THEY are looking forward to it though. I really hope City crushes them in CL. Tonka your watch mate it's in our DNA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Tonka your watch mate it's in our DNA.Yeah, apparently I like being miserable. It's why I support Everton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 The problem, of course, will be Salah. Besic has the potential to mark him out of the game, but he's no longer here and we have no-one else who can do the job. Yes, their Achilles Heel is their defence, but we're, as always, going to set up not to lose instead of to win. The only hope really is that Liverpool will play half their second team after a close first leg this week with City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: The problem, of course, will be Salah. Besic has the potential to mark him out of the game, but he's no longer here and we have no-one else who can do the job. Yes, their Achilles Heel is their defence, but we're, as always, going to set up not to lose instead of to win. The only hope really is that Liverpool will play half their second team after a close first leg this week with City. Its very rare that you will ever see a winger man marked for the whole game. In fact I dont think I have ever seen or heard of it before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Liverpool predominately try and beat you through the middle. They aren't really the type of team that will beat you with width, they will just try and plough straight through the middle and catch you on the counter. Firminho always drops deep and Salah and Mane will try and get in behind. Likewise, the two more offensive midfielders, whoever they may be, also try and get past Firminho. Its probably the most aggressive and attacking front 5 in the league. With that in mind, we need to plug the centre of midfield with as many men as we can, albeit sacrificing our own width at the same time. Anyone thinking we can go toe to toe with them is deluded, so we need to do a job on them and get them on the counter instead, because as its been pointed out, they are weak at the back, especially against the counter and particularly off their right. The big problem for us is that we have gone from having a really strong midfield to a weak as piss midfield, and thats probably another good reason to pack it as best we can because at least one of them might be able to do their job but we also need them to be able to support the striker when we do get out, and for the most advanced midfielder to play on the turn and carry the ball up the pitch. I would play the following: Pickford Coleman / Jags / Keane / Baines Schneiderlin Davies / Gana Vlasic Klaassen Walcott I cant have Rooney deep based on his performance this weekend where he barely laid a glove on City, I don't really like having Schneiderlin either but there arent many other options. If Gana isnt fit then I think you have to put Klaassen in deeper and Rooney in. I'd want that midfield to be really narrow, Vlasic and Klaasen arent to be played as wingers, they are almost wide central midfielders and one of them needs to make sure Can (or whoever plays deep) doesnt get an easy time on the ball. They also need to make sure they get forward and support Walcott. I have picked Walcott because I want his pace to scare the shit out of them. Vlasic and Klaassen can both play through balls, they can both carry the ball too, they both have very good movement. Cenk is a battler but I dont think he will worry their CB's much. He isnt going to get in behind and if VVD plays he isnt going to get much change out of him. As we saw with DCL in the away leg, they are panicky and rash when players get in behind them and we have to make them worry about something. I dont think they will like Walcott running at the either, so even if he picks it up on the flank and can turn and run at them, hopefully it will give some space to our midfield breaking forward. It is defensive, it is designed to stifle them rather than express ourselves, but we don't have the quality in midfield to go toe to toe with them in my opinion and at least there is a plan to cause them a problem. Whether it would work or not is a different story, and Walcott could be left chasing shadows and not getting a sniff without quality ball but I would like to think with that midfield they could at least string a few passes together. That in itself could be our downfall as they are great at turning over possession but if the players are brave and take that chance to pass through their press we will get at them time and time again. Sir McGiven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 This might sound an odd thing to say, but I would suggest our best forward option for this game is Niasse: His energy and persistence would pay off. Schneiderlin shouldn't even be on the bench, but we need Rooney's experience in games like this. Vlasic won't get a look in as long as Crooked Sam is manager, much as I agree he should play: It will be Bolasie, for sure. What team would I like to see? Pickford Coleman / Keane / Jagielka / Holgate / Baines Davies Rooney Walcott Vlasic Niasse Who will our inept manager put in as starters? Pickford Coleman / Jagielka / Keane / Baines Schneiderlin Rooney Walcott Bolasie DC-L If Schneiderlin plays, which unfortunately he will, he'll get himself sent off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 You know who would make a difference in this game if he were available? McCarthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: You know who would make a difference in this game if he were available? McCarthy. McCarthy Gana and Davies in a midfield threee would give us the energy and pressing to jam the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 7 hours ago, Bailey said: Its very rare that you will ever see a winger man marked for the whole game. In fact I dont think I have ever seen or heard of it before. He's scoring goals for fun and must therefore be stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 11 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: He's scoring goals for fun and must therefore be stopped. But it's not like this lad is Messi or KDB pulling loads of strings. He is just very quick and takes a chance with his positioning and his runs. You stop him by stopping the source, which given how Liverpool play, isn't easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Matip expected to miss the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 43 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Matip expected to miss the rest of the season. All the more reason to go at that Backline. Klavan and lovren are terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Matip won’t be a loss for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Would love to see Beni get a start. Won't happen though. Davies, Jags, and Coleman will all put in a shift. COYBS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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