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1 hour ago, Bailey said:

Keane and Holgate had good spells and terrible spells. Keane's mistake was shocking, but Holgate panicked straight after when he could have bailed out his teammate. Keane was rocky until about 60 mins in, getting nudged off the ball by a far smaller man showinh where his head is. Holgate was bullied by both strikers and his long balls where shocking. One of the reasons we didnt have a stronger foothold in that first half. 

Michael Keane had one of the worse 45 minutes of any person I've seen in an Everton shirt (that's including lads at 5 aside with a replica jersey on).... Yet Holgate gets the blame?!

Allan looks like he's been watching Gana videos. Team looked a lot more settled with Davies last year instead of him. 

Imagine that was Holgate who made the mistake. Keane needs fucking off, simply not good enough. 

14 minutes ago, Palfy said:

I wouldn’t disagree with that, but we also have to be careful with what we wish for, we seem to have the empty wallet at this moment in time and it is having a very negative impact, plus I genuinely believe that Rafa was the best candidate for the situation the club was in. With James it’s not over yet he’s still an Everton player so the balls firmly at his feet if he wants to play for Everton and Benitez he still has the opportunity to stake his claim in the team.  

If a manager can't see his worth or too set in their ways then they shouldn't be here. He's world class. You build the team around the quality.

Must be selling him then...

3 hours ago, Palfy said:

I personally think he’s in a bad place at the moment, binned by his national team Ancelotti leaving Benitez not wanting him and as far as we know no one coming in for him. 

Absolute joke if the owners hired a manager who doesn't make him feel wanted, well even worse in what is speculated at the moment. Rather have an empty wallet an a world class player than a billionaire and Rafa. 

5 hours ago, Shukes said:

That clip had him showing decent control, silky turns, dribbling past players with a burst of pace, and splaying cross field passes with accuracy……

Just like Tom Davies

The lad who out played/classed Gomes, Gana, Allan and Sigurdsson. Oh wait I'm going off nighty minutes rather than motd clips and shit fans.

6 hours ago, Gwlad all over said:

Sky beyond themselves over VdD signing contract and 'recovering from horrendous injury'. Here we go!

He's a fucking joke. Other way round and they'd be saying it was a 50/50 that he deserved to lose after trying to injure two other players 5 minutes earlier. Dirty cunt came out smelling like roses, whereas a keeper that done exactly as any other keeper would do got death threats. Fucking scum. 

4 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

He wasn't though, it was an attempt (which was successful) to overthrow Bartomeu the then President of Barcelona.

Messi had no intention of leaving Camp Nou, hence why he didn't.

No intention? He got his lawyers last year to try and force a free transfer.

8 minutes ago, Palfy said:

We will have to see how it pans out, but the big clubs will just put the agent’s with the best players on their books on some sort of contract, but the original complaint was that agents get paid by the club, that will not stop the clubs who want first refusal on the better players will find away round any tax rules that the HMRC implement, when it comes to tax avoidance the best brains don’t work for HMRC they work in the private sector. 

Nothing to do with the brains there. Most staff at HMRC know how to close a loophole, legislation and stronger enforcement of penalties, but the managers won't escalate and the government for the most part are happy for the loopholes to exist see their voting on Google and Amazon to continue to take the piss.

The loopholes that can be used by everyone get closed a lot faster though. 

6 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

I'm reminded by people, from time to time, that the appropriate term is 'woman', not 'lady' (which, frankly, is the term I always used growing up). I hadn't realized that the latter term is viewed somewhat negatively and as borderline sexist (in the US, at least; not sure about in Britain).

He and she is seen as sexist by some in the UK at the minute. Much more to be concerned about in the world than honorifics.

17 minutes ago, Palfy said:

The tax implications are quite separate from the role an agent has with a club, whether the new HMRC rules change that I very much doubt it, the HMRC will struggle to try and dictate what an agent charges for his services and what a club is prepared to pay an agent who gets them what they want. All the HMRC are concerned about is that clubs are using their agent fees to pay less taxes by reducing profits, that’s not going to deter clubs from using agents to make sure they get the best players available.  

It's more that the agents fees should be from the player. HMRC collects more money if the player pays it out of his own pocket, albeit usually the club pays it on his behalf on a grossed up basis. The club's are using a loophole to only have to gross up half the agents fee. 

If say the fee is £1m. Then the grossed up amount is £1.8m. So the club would then pay HMRC £800k in tax on behalf of the player.

Whereas is By splitting the fee 50/50 they are saving about £400k per million.

21 minutes ago, Bailey said:

This.

The agent's do as much work for the clubs as they do for the players, buying and selling. Sometimes that works in our favour, sometimes it doesn't.

That would be if they were acting as a middle man. Before player power a club would contact an agent for help getting rid of a player. They are doing services for the club. 

But these days in football it's more common for a player to have sole representation, with the player paying for his agents services, usually % of the wage. Madness that they even ask for a fee from the buying clubs, even more so that the club's pay it.

For tax purposes HMRC soft on it and let them get away with it on a dual services basis.

https://www.saffery.com/news-and-events/press-releases/2021/new-hmrc-guidance-football-and-payments-to-agents-april-2021

isn't his brother the better one?

1 hour ago, MikeO said:

Such crocodile tears from Messi, he doesn't need to need to earn another penny in his life, if you love Barcelona so much then stay there (for free if necessary) ffs.

"I'm so sad because I have to go somewhere else to get another few million every year.."

What is the matter with people?

He was moaning last year they wouldn't let him leave for free.

Pickford

Coleman Holgate Mina Digne

Townsend Doucoure Davies Iwobi

James

DCL

He's the best of the four. Godfrey may be better in the future. Mina if he was more consistent. 

Crazy to sell. 

13 minutes ago, Bailey said:

Of course they aren't but if you have the chance to win a one-off game and get a recognised trophy for it, then fuck it, I am going to brag about it.

Like the Florida cup?

Everton 3-1 Southampton

Iwobi

9 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

Mike that has driven me nuts for decades now.  I have always said 3 for gold, 2 for silver, 1 for bronze and make a scoring system.  but the uS just counts total medals.  

Just most golds. No athlete would swap a gold for a silver and 2 bronze.

10 hours ago, Formby said:

Very impressed you have Spurs fielding two teams at the expense of Man Utd - more of that, please!

Cheers just edited it. Think spurs will be bottom half.

5 hours ago, Bailey said:

If you are going idealistic, why didn't you put us first! 

I'm being idealistic, not unrealistic. Maybe if we still had Ancelotti... By that I mean the guy we hired last year, not the rat who cost us Europe and fucked off to real Madrid.

59 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

They’d be mad to go for Messi tbh. They don’t need him and the amount they’d be paying him just makes it crazy. 

One footed tiny striker in the prem at a top 6. I hope one of them are stupid enough.

7 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

yeah i was confused by Pete putting Everton at 4 as well.  I thought he wasn't a Rafa fan.  @pete0 honest question why do you think we will finish that high?

I'm not a Rafa fan, just being idealistic.