Romey 1878 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I hope he still wants to come her permanently when his Galaxy contract ends. Er no thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Er no thanks! Thank god im not the only one! I think the loan spells are as much as we should expect or hope for.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 But if we can get him on a free (is it November?) then he is of no risk as a new player, we know he fits in and can do a job. He is defo better than Coleman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Er no thanks! 7 assists 9 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 as a free fine. 9 games is what, 1/4th of a season? Im not convinced he would show the sparkling form for the entirety and the romance would die off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 plus how old is he...his pace had dwindled in his second spell imo.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 as a free fine. 9 games is what, 1/4th of a season? That's a quarter of a season....spending too much time with Americans Matt . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 That's a quarter of a season....spending too much time with Americans Matt . indeed it is. I put 1/5th in then realized it was 1/4 and forgot to remove the 'th'.... Sorry boss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 that'd be a fifth then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 2369/10000ths of a season if we're going to be picky . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 2369/10000ths of a season if we're going to be picky . how long did it take you to work that out then Mike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverand Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 I believe he is 30 years old. He has lost a little pace, but he is good. He has done better than Coleman. He broke Ashley Cole's leg once, I'm sure that's worth something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 I believe he is 30 years old. He has lost a little pace, but he is good. He has done better than Coleman. He broke Ashley Cole's leg once, I'm sure that's worth something... SIGN HIM UP!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 as a free fine. 9 games is what, 1/4th of a season? Im not convinced he would show the sparkling form for the entirety and the romance would die off. You're right. I'm sure you'd rather have Osman or Coleman down the right side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 You're right. I'm sure you'd rather have Osman or Coleman down the right side. oooh, zing.... or how about that young french lad Maggie, impressive end to the season, can play left or right side...... Or, as you say, Coleman who is young and will only improve if he gets games when hes fit. Suppose you want an ageing American who has not played a full EPL season (just about half as season in 2 years) in his career ahead of developing youth that we already have on our books, who have played as well in just about as many games? It comes down to this - we have no cash. We might get enough for 1 player and that should be Pienaar (who is no spring chicken but has much more experience and has contributed much more than Lando). We will rely on our youth going forward and they should be given the chance. You could argue Donovan could come over and they could learn from him, but Im not sure theres nothing he could teach them more than Pienaar could. Lastly, Im worried that the same thing would happen as with Cahill - adored by the fans but starting to falter and the love is being tarnished. Can you imagine the disappointment in the team and fans if he didnt succeed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 I suspect you hit a nerve with an American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) if it wasnt meant to be bitchy, i apologise. Shitty day in the office... edit : and just as I write that, just had 2 weeks of vacation approved in June! WINNER! Edited May 25, 2012 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 edit : and just as I write that, just had 2 weeks of vacation approved in June! WINNER! Holiday!!! I won't tell you again . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Holiday!!! I won't tell you again . i work in an international community Mike (87 nationalities in the project so far), I cant help it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 oooh, zing.... or how about that young french lad Maggie, impressive end to the season, can play left or right side...... Or, as you say, Coleman who is young and will only improve if he gets games when hes fit. Suppose you want an ageing American who has not played a full EPL season (just about half as season in 2 years) in his career ahead of developing youth that we already have on our books, who have played as well in just about as many games? It comes down to this - we have no cash. We might get enough for 1 player and that should be Pienaar (who is no spring chicken but has much more experience and has contributed much more than Lando). We will rely on our youth going forward and they should be given the chance. You could argue Donovan could come over and they could learn from him, but Im not sure theres nothing he could teach them more than Pienaar could. Lastly, Im worried that the same thing would happen as with Cahill - adored by the fans but starting to falter and the love is being tarnished. Can you imagine the disappointment in the team and fans if he didnt succeed? Dream on Matt, he's going to have to massivly change his game or change postion if he is to ever improve as a player, one trick pony who has been found out pretty easily, it's a shame, but i don't see Coleman ever being anymore than a backup option for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Dream on Matt, he's going to have to massivly change his game or change postion if he is to ever improve as a player, one trick pony who has been found out pretty easily, it's a shame, but i don't see Coleman ever being anymore than a backup option for us. hes 23, hes got plenty of time. Ossie didnt start to show signs til his early/mid 20s. Hes never going to be a world beater, I accept this. However, he can play on the right - no dreaming involved, hes done it before and for the majority of this season, hes been hampered by injuries. He can only get better if he is given time to play and coached well. All that said, he should not, under any circumstances, be considered our future RB in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 hes 23, hes got plenty of time. Ossie didnt start to show signs til his early/mid 20s. Hes never going to be a world beater, I accept this. However, he can play on the right - no dreaming involved, hes done it before and for the majority of this season, hes been hampered by injuries. He can only get better if he is given time to play and coached well. All that said, he should not, under any circumstances, be considered our future RB in my opinion. He can't play on the right though, he has nothing to offer other than kicking the ball out infront and running past the man, he got found out after half a season, he needs a loan somewhere in the championship for 6 months to get some consistency into his game imo, i don't think he is anywhere near premiership standard at the moment, just look at the Liverpool game the stupid muppet nearly got himself sent off after 10 mins of being on the pitch because he was all over the place and ended up jumping in with both feet.We shall see anyway, Moyes seems to have an obsession with playing Osman on the right anyway, so Coleman needs to get past him first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 He can't play on the right though, he has nothing to offer other than kicking the ball out infront and running past the man, he got found out after half a season, he needs a loan somewhere in the championship for 6 months to get some consistency into his game imo, i don't think he is anywhere near premiership standard at the moment, just look at the Liverpool game the stupid muppet nearly got himself sent off after 10 mins of being on the pitch because he was all over the place and ended up jumping in with both feet. We shall see anyway, Moyes seems to have an obsession with playing Osman on the right anyway, so Coleman needs to get past him first. Bit of a different attitude to "dream on" though mate, recognizing he needs the experience. Hes young and not the brightest (at least, how he comes across), but he could come good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Bit of a different attitude to "dream on" though mate, recognizing he needs the experience. Hes young and not the brightest (at least, how he comes across), but he could come good. Not really, thats just the logical way of looking at the situation, honestly i don't think he will ever make it at the top level, and i think he's a championship player at the very best, and even thats pushing it imo, i would put his ability level less than the likes of Neville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Can't see Coleman making it either. Not enough skill, which is kind of understandable given the fact he didn't start to play football till he was 17 or something like that, right? Nevertheless, there literally are hundreds of better right midfielders out there imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 he's not a right midfielder...does a job there..he needs defensive experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 he's not a right midfielder...does a job there..he needs defensive experience How is he going to get that if Hibbo is picked before him, might need to go on loan as a right back for say, 3three months or so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 How is he going to get that if Hibbo is picked before him, might need to go on loan as a right back for say, 3three months or so? A season long loan at a Premiership (newly promoted maybe?) side would be ideal. Then we could see if he's got what it takes to start in the PL week in, week out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 west ham maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 west ham maybe? I was gutted Blackpool didn't come back up - it would have been tailor made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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