jofanon Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I think this is going to happen - just hope we can pull something off... not a CM but a winger in addition to Drenthe. Drenthe would be great. Wonder if Bellamy is actually going to EFC not the shite.... That would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Buy Pienaar back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzp7zy Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Much as I love Mikel, and I do, I don;'t think we can afford to turn down 10mill, given his age, recent performances and injury record. I would like to see us bring in a creative midfielder - no idea who tho for the money we have??!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalewoodBlue Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Moyes no but Bill? I'm not sure if they will have a say whether the money stays in the club by the sound of it. Seriously how does a very succesfull businessman suddenly become stupid? Answer, when idiot fans with no clue about business get it into their heads he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Maybe Wenger is just pissing about, so he can say on 1 September 'I tried to buy, but the negotitations were too long/expensive...'. In any case, I think even 10m for a player who is nearly 30, on massive wages, injury prone and played poorly the last 2 years is a fair deal. Very sorry to see the lad go though - many happy memories. Only issue is, no time to replace him unless we've a deal in the pipeline somewhere, either that or a youngster comes in. In any case, this has the whiff that it might go ahead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Arteta going isn't the problem, it's the lack of replacement that will fuck us over. We lack creativity in midfield enough as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 maybe if the drenthe thing is true they see him as the replacement with arteta bein counted as our left winger? wouldn't shock me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 maybe if the drenthe thing is true they see him as the replacement with arteta bein counted as our left winger? wouldn't shock me... That would be a disgrace, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Fair point we lack creativity, but even with Arteta in the team at the moment we lack creativity. Get the 10m and someone else have a bash. Bearing in mind it's 1730 on deadline day and Moyes won't let the yougsters in, it is of course a forlorn, hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Arteta needs to agree personal terms with Arsenal. Drenth 'is' coming to Everton. SSN's Spanish reporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Fair point we lack creativity, but even with Arteta in the team at the moment we lack creativity. Get the 10m and someone else have a bash. Bearing in mind it's 1730 on deadline day and Moyes won't let the yougsters in, it is of course a forlorn, hope Exactly! So if we don't replace him (which I really think will happen) then we're screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I really dont think Bill and Moyes are that stupid to be honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalewoodBlue Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Arteta needs to agree personal terms with Arsenal. Drenth 'is' coming to Everton. SSN's Spanish reporter. Does Balague ever get anything right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 maybe if the drenthe thing is true they see him as the replacement with arteta bein counted as our left winger? wouldn't shock me... It would be sooooooooo Everton! Great Drenthe, excellent. Okay sad to see Arteta go but that seems a fair deal. No one else? Oh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 That would be a disgrace, IMO. would it shock you though? it's everton remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 The more I think about it the more it makes sense in my head. I think even Moyes sees Arteta and Cahill as replacable. Only Howard, Baines, Jagielka and Fellaini truly unsellable, I think. Arteta is earning wages way out of proportion to his value to the side. However, if Yak, Beckford and Arteta go and Drenthe and Stracqualursi are the only in's then I think there will be uproar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 would it shock you though? it's everton remember Sadly, I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest, but I will still be angry as fuck. Especially if that Argentinian is the only other signing other than Drenthe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Exactly! So if we don't replace him (which I really think will happen) then we're screwed. What i mean is, Arteta doen't seem to bring that creativity any more, so take the money and take a risk on someone else. Key word is of course RISK, but keeping him is too. We're unlikely to get a bid that good again, and if he plays like he did the last 18 months, it will be pitiful, plus Moyes will keep him in the team come what way, no matter how poor he is. I love Arteta and would love to think he'll get his old form back, but I don't think so. If we sell, or if we don't, it's a risk. I'd like to see the money and a new player to have a go. But then I'm a optimistic sort of twat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 This is definitely a Moyes decision. We can't say that "Moyes signs, the board sells". Arteta would be going nowhere if Moyes didn't want him to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Sadly, I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest, but I will still be angry as fuck. Especially if that Argentinian is the only other signing other than Drenthe. man you won't believe how mad i will be..i'm just holding it in cos i am givin moyes the credit that he can pull summat out his arse...drenthe might not even be true..that striker might be it..arteta, yak and beckford go and he comes in..i will go and sit outside for 2 hours at 11pm if this is the case and not say a word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinalaff Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 The more I think about it the more it makes sense in my head. I think even Moyes sees Arteta and Cahill as replacable. Only Howard, Baines, Jagielka and Fellaini truly unsellable, I think. Arteta is earning wages way out of proportion to his value to the side. However, if Yak, Beckford and Arteta go and Drenthe and Stracqualursi are the only in's then I think there will be uproar. Why uproar? Many fans are content that the club need to offload wages. I'm only shocked that Beckfords name has been mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Why uproar? Many fans are content that the club need to offload wages. I'm only shocked that Beckfords name has been mentioned. agree with this bar the Beckford part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 What i mean is, Arteta doen't seem to bring that creativity any more, so take the money and take a risk on someone else. Key word is of course RISK, but keeping him is too. We're unlikely to get a bid that good again, and if he plays like he did the last 18 months, it will be pitiful, plus Moyes will keep him in the team come what way, no matter how poor he is. I love Arteta and would love to think he'll get his old form back, but I don't think so. If we sell, or if we don't, it's a risk. I'd like to see the money and a new player to have a go. But then I'm a optimistic sort of twat. We're not going to take a risk on any one though, that's my point. We're going to sell him and bring no one in to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I hate to say it bit wouldn't blame him if he went. Chance to play champs league. We not moving forward at all really and he now 29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 We're not going to take a risk on any one though, that's my point. We're going to sell him and bring no one in to replace him. Agree - still think we missed the boat on Barton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetland Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Gotta say this is the most pissed off I've been on transfer deadline day, can cope with Mikel going in a way as he's hardly on form but with the money probably paying off debt and if not no time to spend the money. Add that to the probable loss of 2 strikers and it shows how fucked we are!!!!!! I'm usually pretty positive about things but it's getting worse every season so imagine next summer!!!! Anymore of this and relegation is a very serious prospect imo!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I will be gutted if this goes through it will leave us with absolutely no creativety at all in midfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) Barkley and Ossie have been more creative than Arteta this season and the end of last, Drenthe may add creativity. Edited August 31, 2011 by scouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) I don't get all this shock and disappointment. What we are seeing is a manager having to operate under the constraints that have been made clear of recent. Whatever your views of the blue union, we are seeing the symptoms of a club in financial turmoil. I'm prepared for all this. Will be sorry to see arteta go. At his best was one of the best. Edited August 31, 2011 by Hafnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Yes, well done to the Blue Union. Telling every club in the world how broke we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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