Ant1979 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Could possibly have nabbed him for half his current price if it had been a few weeks ago, just shows what a few good games can do to restore a reputation. Class player on his day, would probably thrive under a manager like Roberto too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Mancini ruined this lad. He was absolutely class when he turned up at City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Haha. I suggest him a couple weeks ago and everyone thinks he sucks and is overrated. Now the first rumors are coming through and he's suddenly welcome. You guys. Mancini ruined this lad. He was absolutely class when he turned up at City. I disagree. His best games were during ManCity's title season in my opinion. He was an absolute class act, better performer than Milner. I never understood why he let him go to Sunderland. Adam Johnson is very welcome at EFC! One of my favourite footballers in the world. (in 2011/12 he was even my favourite of all) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 He was awful against United. Haven't seen him in any other games though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I've always been a fan, but now? Squad filler at this point, don't let the recent goal glut delude you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Haha. I suggest him a couple weeks ago and everyone thinks he sucks and is overrated. Now the first rumors are coming through and he's suddenly welcome. You guys. I disagree. His best games were during ManCity's title season in my opinion. He was an absolute class act, better performer than Milner. I never understood why he let him go to Sunderland. Adam Johnson is very welcome at EFC! One of my favourite footballers in the world. (in 2011/12 he was even my favourite of all) Mancini never played him, even when he was ripping teams apart he'd drop him the next game. In the latter of his City career he hardly took anyone on. Mancini totally changed him for the worst. He could have been one of the best wingers in Europe if he'd been given faith. Matt and Mirallas 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Mancini never played him, even when he was ripping teams apart he'd drop him the next game. In the latter of his City career he hardly took anyone on. Mancini totally changed him for the worst. He could have been one of the best wingers in Europe if he'd been given faith. Not sure what kind of information you're basing this on, but I've seen every single game of ManCity in their title season. Johnson didn't play all the time, but he did a whole lot of substitute appearances in which he took on opponents all the time and scored important goals that showed just what kind of class act AJ is. In his last season at MC he featured in 38 games. Even though mostly as a substitute, that still is 38 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Not sure what kind of information you're basing this on, but I've seen every single game of ManCity in their title season. Johnson didn't play all the time, but he did a whole lot of substitute appearances in which he took on opponents all the time and scored important goals that showed just what kind of class act AJ is. In his last season at MC he featured in 38 games. Even though mostly as a substitute, that still is 38 games. It's based on facts. Even you openly admit he was mostly used as a substitute. He never got a proper run in the first 11. If you read Johnson's comments about his time at City he says no matter how well he played he would find himself on the bench the next game. Mancini never spoke to him. The only thing he ever said was yes to him leaving, at the first opportunity. Edited January 25, 2014 by MiguelCotto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Id rather we took Sebastian Larsson off their hands. Can be used as RB, RM ans CM. Good passer of the ball, great freekicks (to add to our impressive freekick taking hoard, Baines, Barkley and Mirallas, no one would want to concede a freekick near the home goal.) Both would have to sit on the bench anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted January 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 i'd love to have larsson here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 It's based on facts. Even you openly admit he was mostly used as a substitute. He never got a proper run in the first 11. If you read Johnson's comments about his time at City he says no matter how well he played he would find himself on the bench the next game. Mancini never spoke to him. The only thing he ever said was yes to him leaving, at the first opportunity. I refer to my previous comment: though mostly as substitute, STILL 38 games. And you can argue all you want about his role at Man City, his game was a lot better then than it is now at Sunderland, where he plays all the time. In my opinion, AJ needs to be surrounded by ambition and a team worthy of his great talent. EFC fits the bill better than Sunderland. With a head coach like Roberto Martinez in a system like EFC, where he'll get a good bit of competition from Mirallas, Barkley, Pienaar and McGeady (and Gerry) behind the striker, I think we'll see the good old AJ surface again, though he's already showing bits of it in the past few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 I refer to my previous comment: though mostly as substitute, STILL 38 games. And you can argue all you want about his role at Man City, his game was a lot better then than it is now at Sunderland, where he plays all the time. In my opinion, AJ needs to be surrounded by ambition and a team worthy of his great talent. EFC fits the bill better than Sunderland. With a head coach like Roberto Martinez in a system like EFC, where he'll get a good bit of competition from Mirallas, Barkley, Pienaar and McGeady (and Gerry) behind the striker, I think we'll see the good old AJ surface again, though he's already showing bits of it in the past few games. Which is exactly what I said, when he turned up for City he was absolute quality. The fact that no matter how well he performed there he found himself on the bench. Which is why I'm saying Mancini ruined him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Id rather we took Sebastian Larsson off their hands. Can be used as RB, RM ans CM. Good passer of the ball, great freekicks (to add to our impressive freekick taking hoard, Baines, Barkley and Mirallas, no one would want to concede a freekick near the home goal.) Both would have to sit on the bench anyway i'd love to have larsson here Sebastian Larsson? That must be a wind up. He's shocking. I'd take Johnson any day of the week over him. Edited January 25, 2014 by MiguelCotto marcus jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted January 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 didn't say i didn't like johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Which is exactly what I said, when he turned up for City he was absolute quality. The fact that no matter how well he performed there he found himself on the bench. Which is why I'm saying Mancini ruined him. I'm sorry, I must have misread that part. I'm not sure if Mancini ruined him though, I suppose it depends on how you look at it. Cause, as you are saying, he did perform very well when he was playing under Mancini. I think it's a mental thing, rather than how he's coached sportively. The 'cataclism' was when he went to Sunderland, cause there he suddenly started playing on an average Sunderland level. It would seem like he adjusts his level to the team in which he features. I think he needs a challenge that brings up the best in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Can't see Sunderlamd selling anyway, he'll be key in their survival. Another player who has really impressed me for Sunderland is Ki. He seems to just control games effortlessly. When we went down to 10 at Goodison. He got on the ball and slowed everything down. Not sure why Swansea loaned him out. He's a very good player. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel Kane Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 didn't say i didn't like johnson Fucking hell, that's a concern... Not sure how far we'll get with this player and as stated in the above, Sunderland won't let go in the position they find themselves, but this is a kid with promise who can be a valuable asset to any club side. Would be a valuable addition if we could somehow bring him in, but dont think it will be anytime soon. If Sunderland do suffer a relegation this season, the best chance of a capture would seem in the summer, but there will be a lot of competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 didn't say i didn't like johnson Fnar Fnar chortle chuckle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Adam Johnson is pretty bad. I don't see what he brings to the table that we don't already have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Adam Johnson is a brilliant talent on his day. Chalk on his boots and tries to hit the by line. His inconsistency is the problem, with the right manager he will realise his potential. Ant1979, marcus jones and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Adam Johnson is a brilliant talent on his day. Chalk on his boots and tries to hit the by line. His inconsistency is the problem, with the right manager he will realise his potential. Same could be said about Freddy Adu, Anelka, Chamakh, etc. You're not wrong, but let's see him prove it with a bottom-table team first. I'd like to think our aspirations are higher than a project like that unless he's coming here on a free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Same could be said about Freddy Adu, Anelka, Chamakh, etc. You're not wrong, but let's see him prove it with a bottom-table team first. I'd like to think our aspirations are higher than a project like that unless he's coming here on a free. I know what you mean and I agree, but Anelka doesn't really belong in that list, does he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Same could be said about Freddy Adu, Anelka, Chamakh, etc. You're not wrong, but let's see him prove it with a bottom-table team first. I'd like to think our aspirations are higher than a project like that unless he's coming here on a free. Anelka has played for massive clubs, has won a lot of trophys including the Premier League (twice), FA Cup (3times) Champions League, Turkish League and the Euros with France. The guy doesn't belong in a list with Adu and Chamakh who aren't even in his league. marcus jones, Matt and EFC-Paul 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Same could be said about Freddy Adu, Anelka, Chamakh, etc. You're not wrong, but let's see him prove it with a bottom-table team first. I'd like to think our aspirations are higher than a project like that unless he's coming here on a free. He's already done that at Boro in the Prem and the Championship so that argument is nul and void. I do get what your saying but a player doesn't have to show his worth with a bottom half side to prove he's good enough to play for another as such most players are as good as those around them and to be fair to Him Sunderland have been dire since He arrived and you can't compare Johnson to players like Adu He's absolute garbage johnson is far more talented at what He does. I've always rated him highly and would love to have him here as Haf said he hits the line and has everything you need in a winger, He can be inconsistent but under a manager like RM he'd flourish I'm sure. Edited January 25, 2014 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Same could be said about Freddy Adu, Anelka, Chamakh, etc. You're not wrong, but let's see him prove it with a bottom-table team first. I'd like to think our aspirations are higher than a project like that unless he's coming here on a free. Are you kidding us? Johnson has been on top of his game for the majority of his playing career! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Anelka has played for massive clubs, has won a lot of trophys including the Premier League (twice), FA Cup (3times) Champions League, Turkish League and the Euros with France. The guy doesn't belong in a list with Adu and Chamakh who aren't even in his league. How much of that was done within the last year or so? Anelka was a hell of a player in his prime. He's not in his prime. MC11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 He's already done that at Boro in the Prem and the Championship so that argument is nul and void. I do get what your saying but a player doesn't have to show his worth with a bottom half side to prove he's good enough to play for another as such most players are as good as those around them and to be fair to Him Sunderland have been dire since He arrived and you can't compare Johnson to players like Adu He's absolute garbage johnson is far more talented at what He does. I've always rated him highly and would love to have him here as Haf said he hits the line and has everything you need in a winger, He can be inconsistent but under a manager like RM he'd flourish I'm sure. What I meant is that... yeah he has his moments but so have a number of players who aren't good enough. Let's see him build his career back up with a lesser team first. Right now Sunderland fans aren't exactly enthralled with him. I'm aware that he's produced at higher levels before. But right now his career has fallen to the point he's at Sunderland and not exactly tearing it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 How much of that was done within the last year or so? Anelka was a hell of a player in his prime. He's not in his prime. You are using Anelka who is 35 and at the end of his career in comparison with Chamakh and Adu. Anelka has been a top striker in world football and does not belong in the same sentence as those other two players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Pipe down you 3! Let's not bicker about Anelka. Edited January 25, 2014 by Quinn31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 You are using Anelka who is 35 and at the end of his career in comparison with Chamakh and Adu. Anelka has been a top striker in world football and does not belong in the same sentence as those other two players. Never been a top striker in world football. Huge prospect at Arsenal had all the ability and could well of been one of the best in the world however due to his attitude never really achieved anything in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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