Steve_E Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Never been a top striker in world football. Huge prospect at Arsenal had all the ability and could well of been one of the best in the world however due to his attitude never really achieved anything in his career. You're rewriting history. He scored 100+ PL goals and 200+ career goals, was the PL's top goal scorer in 08-09, won the Premier League twice, the FA Cup three times, the Turkish league once, the Champions League once and a European Championship once (even though he didn't feature in the Final). Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 You're rewriting history. He scored 100+ PL goals and 200+ career goals, was the PL's top goal scorer in 08-09, won the Premier League twice, the FA Cup three times, the Turkish league once, the Champions League once and a European Championship once (even though he didn't feature in the Final). Yeah, but apart from that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 You're rewriting history. He scored 100+ PL goals and 200+ career goals, was the PL's top goal scorer in 08-09, won the Premier League twice, the FA Cup three times, the Turkish league once, the Champions League once and a European Championship once (even though he didn't feature in the Final). And it what sides was he an integral part of the team? Arsenal that's it? You could look at Phil Neville's honours and think wow what a player. But in truth they don't paint the true picture of a player. Darren Bent and Emile Heskey are 2 other players who have scored more than 100 PL goals there just off the top of my head and there no greats in world football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Never been a top striker in world football. Huge prospect at Arsenal had all the ability and could well of been one of the best in the world however due to his attitude never really achieved anything in his career. Never really achieved anything in his career? That comment is so far off base. You don't play for Arsenal, Real Madrid and Chelsea all combined if you aren't a top striker. He's been a bit of a journeyman but that's not based on ability it's attitude. He was a top class player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Never really achieved anything in his career? That comment is so far off base. You don't play for Arsenal, Real Madrid and Chelsea all combined if you aren't a top striker. He's been a bit of a journeyman but that's not based on ability it's attitude. He was a top class player Yes he was a top class player at Arsenal and a good player everywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Never really achieved anything in his career? That comment is so far off base. You don't play for Arsenal, Real Madrid and Chelsea all combined if you aren't a top striker. He's been a bit of a journeyman but that's not based on ability it's attitude. He was a top class player Hate that argument "played for these teams so he must be world class" That argument is non relevant and also boring could list a thousand and one rubbish players that have played at top clubs. Total non starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Hate that argument "played for these teams so he must be world class" That argument is non relevant and also boring could list a thousand and one rubbish players that have played at top clubs. Total non starter. If he'd played for one top club I would agree with you. But he's played consistently at 3 big clubs Chelsea, Arsenal &Madrid. Also played for Juventus (albeit twice), Fenerbache & PSG. He's been a big name in world football for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 If he'd played for one top club I would agree with you. But he's played consistently at 3 big clubs Chelsea, Arsenal &Madrid. Also played for Juventus (albeit twice), Fenerbache & PSG. He's been a big name in world football for a long time. Spot on he's a big name in world football for all the wrong reason "le sulk". Big name because he had huge potential but never got anywhere near filling it. Played consistently? He had two years at Arsenal (where he looked fantastic), Real played about 20 games, Chelsea played there for four years at the end of his playing career scoring 38 in 125 games not world class and never has been. Played about 40 times for PSG and they were never the club they are now when he played for them. Had the potential to be a world class talent and is famous for being le sulk and a bit of a failure I suppose. Anyway.... Back on topic, not to bothered about AJ could take him or leave him but if was available for a cut price fee I would like to think we would be interested especially now with the injury to Bryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Spot on he's a big name in world football for all the wrong reason "le sulk". Big name because he had huge potential but never got anywhere near filling it. Played consistently? He had two years at Arsenal (where he looked fantastic), Real played about 20 games, Chelsea played there for four years at the end of his playing career scoring 38 in 125 games not world class and never has been. Played about 40 times for PSG and they were never the club they are now when he played for them. Had the potential to be a world class talent and is famous for being le sulk and a bit of a failure I suppose. Anyway.... Back on topic, not to bothered about AJ could take him or leave him but if was available for a cut price fee I would like to think we would be interested especially now with the injury to Bryan. We all see it differently. Personally I would have loved Anelka here when he was in his prime. I personally think the majority of clubs around Europe would have had Anelka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Shite!!! Anelka meltdown, the man's a prick but as a footballer he has pace, control, finishing, intelligence, he can play across the front three. A very good player. As for Adam Johnson, he's a quality player. Matt and marcus jones 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Never really achieved anything in his career? That comment is so far off base. You don't play for Arsenal, Real Madrid and Chelsea all combined if you aren't a top striker. He's been a bit of a journeyman but that's not based on ability it's attitude. He was a top class player Good thing you said striker and not player, otherwise Lassana Diarra would have broke the theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nikica Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Hate that argument "played for these teams so he must be world class" That argument is non relevant and also boring could list a thousand and one rubbish players that have played at top clubs. Total non starter. I hate that argument too - Le Tissier for example was a class player and could have did better than Soton at the time. Gabriel Heinze on the other hand played for RM and Man United and almost Liverpool...decent but not great player, and lots of poor players have played at those clubs. As for Anelka, I thought he was brilliant at Arsenal, but he never fulfilled his promise and was simply a very good player after that, never one of the best in the world. Could probably have gone close to being as good as Henry if he didn't act like such an egomaniac. On Johnson, it's a strange situation - I thought he looked great for City quite often and was a great dribbler (in the twisting and turning and dropping shoulder sense, not the kick and run sense). He would often get past his full-back, and get to the by-line with the opportunity of a cut-back to an unmarked player. However, City fans saw it differently and many of them swore he was a highlights player. What I certainly believe is that - like what happened to Anelka, albeit is on a lower level of talent - his attitude is stifling his potential and he's too good to be playing for a team in the bottom half. I think he could do a job at Everton easily. I reckon he's better than McGeady (just being honest). Edited February 5, 2014 by Nikica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Le Tiss in his prime was one of my favourite players ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus jones Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Le Tiss in his prime was one of my favourite players ever. Ah, mine too just wondered if he could cut it at a top club though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memmaclub Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Adam J yes please having a great season scored As many as lukaku from the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Rather have ince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 We loan who we want!!! http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/sunderlands-adam-johnson-poised-everton-3659061 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 Hope this happens always rated the lad he'd do well here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted June 7, 2014 Report Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) I would like a left-footed wide man. Still just 26 years old. I'd like him on a permanent deal. Edited June 7, 2014 by Steve_E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I'd love the loan to go well and then we would get a permanent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I'd be happy with getting him. Would prefer a permanent deal but this would be fine as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiediow Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Loan with a view to permanent would be very good deal. Feel he could really add something to our team and would become a much better performer in our team with the way we play. He is unplayable on the odd game, feel Martinez magic could make that happen more and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I'm happy with this news He's still my favourite English player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Loan to buy ok. I know he hit a decent spell of form this season but I'm still to be convinced. Would also depend on his wages and the loan fee going towards the final transfer fee, should we take him on permanently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I approve. Get him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBlood81 Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I agree with most, would have to be with an option to buy at the end of the loan. Would do well here I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Yes, that will do nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Loved him at city and couldn't understand why he wasn't playing. Apparently he is a piss can. He is only 26 and all the ability in the world. His wages would be high I imagine but as a loan he could have something to prove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 (edited) He would be a great replacement for Pienaar. We need a LW, and I would not be too disappointed if it were him. Edited June 8, 2014 by TonkaRoost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Loan to buy ok. I know he hit a decent spell of form this season but I'm still to be convinced. Would also depend on his wages and the loan fee going towards the final transfer fee, should we take him on permanently If his wages are indeed high, would Sunderland still be paying a percentage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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