Shukes Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Palfy said: I never said it had definitely been turned down I said I can’t see them getting league approval, to which you responded it’s already a done deal You’re smarter than that mate. You know I am talking about my own opinion…. Or did you actually think I know Moshiri or 777. That’s what you get for drinking so heavily whole sunning it up! Bloody alright for some ain’t it. Just turned up into a rainy Liverpool haha. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 Going into St Hilda’s for a pint before the match. Will resume the battle later. COYBs!!!!!!! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, Matt said: Not really. There are business based around debt for example. Palfy knows the construction business, I'd be interested to know if its comparable but construction is only for profit, football is only for losing 6 minutes ago, Shukes said: You’re smarter than that mate. You know I am talking about my own opinion…. Or did you actually think I know Moshiri or 777. That’s what you get for drinking so heavily whole sunning it up! Bloody alright for some ain’t it. Just turned up into a rainy Liverpool haha. Sorry mate I genuinely thought I’d not heard they were given league approval, enjoy the game mate you should see a decent win today Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 Just now, Palfy said: In construction you can loan against your order book Sorry mate I genuinely thought I’d not heard they were given league approval, enjoy the game mate you should see a decent win today So equivalent might be buying against the TV money deal which is apparently getting a boost again. Right? If so, then they don't need to have the money to hand and are buying based on that. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Palfy said: Sorry mate I genuinely thought I’d not heard they were given league approval, enjoy the game mate you should see a decent win today Hoping mate. Just happy that we have a decent line up. Hoping to see a couple of the newer players for the first time. Got my lad with me so really want to come back with a win. London Blue and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Matt said: So equivalent might be buying against the TV money deal which is apparently getting a boost again. Right? If so, then they don't need to have the money to hand and are buying based on that. I think that would be more of a promised asset for the club rather than the buyer though. Could be wrong though. Anyway…. Enjoy your day all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt said: So equivalent might be buying against the TV money deal which is apparently getting a boost again. Right? If so, then they don't need to have the money to hand and are buying based on that. Exactly, legal borrowing is based on the lender’s criteria of getting their money back in the event of the borrower forfeiting on the repayments, there won’t be many if any who are cash rich, their values are based on so many factors which enable them to borrow, but with reportedly already £400m of debt that’s why it’s so important we get the stadium finished for the added revenue streams and the uplift in value of the business. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Shukes said: Hoping mate. Just happy that we have a decent line up. Hoping to see a couple of the newer players for the first time. Got my lad with me so really want to come back with a win. Don’t get done for being drunk in charge of a minor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 Josh Wander was at the game today in the directors box so I think it's more than likely that it's going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 We are also currently on the 77th page of this thread... meant to be? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 30, 2023 Report Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, plaidharper said: We are also currently on the 77th page of this thread... meant to be? Only another 700 short. c1982 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 1, 2023 Report Share Posted October 1, 2023 When it comes to fit and proper persons test, they have bought or invested into seven other clubs already. Every major league has their own equivalent for and proper persons test. If they got through them before I’m sure they will again. Do we expect our organisations to be more strict than any of the others? I’m sure they like to think their shit doesn’t stink down at the Premier League and the FA, but i doubt that’s the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 9 hours ago, StevO said: When it comes to fit and proper persons test, they have bought or invested into seven other clubs already. Every major league has their own equivalent for and proper persons test. If they got through them before I’m sure they will again. Do we expect our organisations to be more strict than any of the others? I’m sure they like to think their shit doesn’t stink down at the Premier League and the FA, but i doubt that’s the case. Yeah, sovereignty and all that bullshit StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 10 hours ago, StevO said: Do we expect our organisations to be more strict than any of the others? I’m sure they like to think their shit doesn’t stink down at the Premier League and the FA, but i doubt that’s the case. Before you can answer that do you know if other organisations have been heavily criticised from their governments who believe they aren’t fit to regulate themselves, and have other organisations allowed a sale to go through that their government isn’t happy with due to the history of the buyers, I ask because these are the hurdles that have to be jumped before any deal is made. I don’t think this deal will go through as easy as just two parties agreeing a figure they are both happy with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 Palfy asked me to post this... https://theesk.org/2023/10/01/777-partners-moshiris-final-misjudgement/amp/ Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 I quite like the new stadium location myself. I know Moshiri has made bucket loads of bad decisions. But I would not class the stadium as one of them. If anything it’s a shining light in an otherwise dire situation. Have to admit I didn’t read much past that as it set its stall out from the outset. Kind mid made me lose respect for the authors straight away. May have been a great informative article if I continued, but very poor way to start haha. Matt and StevO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, MikeO said: Palfy asked me to post this... https://theesk.org/2023/10/01/777-partners-moshiris-final-misjudgement/amp/ Thanks mate, I was hoping people might post their thoughts on the article and how they feel about the direction the club maybe heading. From my point of view if a majority of the article as any truth about it we look like a club going into receivership with or without 777 with a stadium no where near finished and stadium company as well as the club completely maxed out without the means to make the repayments. I’ve been an Evertonian for just over 57 years and in all that time I never thought in my wildest dreams that we would ever find ourselves in this position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Palfy said: Thanks mate, I was hoping people might post their thoughts on the article and how they feel about the direction the club maybe heading. From my point of view if a majority of the article as any truth about it we look like a club going into receivership with or without 777 with a stadium no where near finished and stadium company as well as the club completely maxed out without the means to make the repayments. I’ve been an Evertonian for just over 57 years and in all that time I never thought in my wildest dreams that we would ever find ourselves in this position. I'll be in hospital again tomorrow so I'll give it a proper read then. But... "A man who has injected £770 million into Everton, " I struggle with that. Moshiri has a net worth £1.8b, does anyone think hes put nearly half of that into the club after a lifetime of earning it? Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 33 minutes ago, Matt said: I'll be in hospital again tomorrow so I'll give it a proper read then. But... "A man who has injected £770 million into Everton, " I struggle with that. Moshiri has a net worth £1.8b, does anyone think hes put nearly half of that into the club after a lifetime of earning it? This is why I struggle with a lot of what we read. So much of it just doesn’t add up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Shukes said: I quite like the new stadium location myself. I know Moshiri has made bucket loads of bad decisions. But I would not class the stadium as one of them. If anything it’s a shining light in an otherwise dire situation. Have to admit I didn’t read much past that as it set its stall out from the outset. Kind mid made me lose respect for the authors straight away. May have been a great informative article if I continued, but very poor way to start haha. It wasn't. Due to the ongoing regulatory approvals being sought, it was not appropriate to record the meeting nor discuss outside of the meeting any of 777’s answers relating specifically to Everton. So a whole load of questions and no clear answers. Matt and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Formby said: It wasn't. Due to the ongoing regulatory approvals being sought, it was not appropriate to record the meeting nor discuss outside of the meeting any of 777’s answers relating specifically to Everton. So a whole load of questions and no clear answers. My problem being is with the amount of borrowing the club has made that they are now unable to make further borrowing, even though he did say it would be inappropriate not to discuss or record the meeting, he was there and what he heard obviously didn’t impress him or he wouldn’t have said he felt they were wrong for the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Matt said: I'll be in hospital again tomorrow so I'll give it a proper read then. But... "A man who has injected £770 million into Everton, " I struggle with that. Moshiri has a net worth £1.8b, does anyone think hes put nearly half of that into the club after a lifetime of earning it? Hope you’re well mate, when I hear in hospital I become concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, Formby said: It wasn't. Due to the ongoing regulatory approvals being sought, it was not appropriate to record the meeting nor discuss outside of the meeting any of 777’s answers relating specifically to Everton. So a whole load of questions and no clear answers. So why on earth did he want to meet with them to have questions answered? I'll tell you why - to satisfy his own ego. It's all he's about. Matt, Formby and Shukes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: So why on earth did he want to meet with them to have questions answered? I'll tell you why - to satisfy his own ego. It's all he's about. Regardless of the personalities involved don’t you find the figures of debt we are in concerning. Another thing I’m upset about is Moshiri refusing to put any more money in the club, yet what he has invested in the club he wants back, which is a kick in the teeth when what ever he invested he blew on poor deals but he wants it back at the expense of the club and fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Palfy said: Hope you’re well mate, when I hear in hospital I become concerned Extended glucose test to see why I keep passing out. Already did it in July but they lost the blood work so no confirmed diagnosis. It scared the hell out of them when I blacked out, hopefully it'll happen quicker this time so I can get out quicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Matt said: Extended glucose test to see why I keep passing out. Already did it in July but they lost the blood work so no confirmed diagnosis. It scared the hell out of them when I blacked out, hopefully it'll happen quicker this time so I can get out quicker Good luck mate. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Matt said: Extended glucose test to see why I keep passing out. Already did it in July but they lost the blood work so no confirmed diagnosis. It scared the hell out of them when I blacked out, hopefully it'll happen quicker this time so I can get out quicker Best to you and your family Matt. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 4 hours ago, Matt said: I'll be in hospital again tomorrow so I'll give it a proper read then. But... "A man who has injected £770 million into Everton, " I struggle with that. Moshiri has a net worth £1.8b, does anyone think hes put nearly half of that into the club after a lifetime of earning it? Or............? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 9 hours ago, Gwlad said: Or............? Has arranged deals, received "gifts" etc. Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 11 hours ago, Matt said: Extended glucose test to see why I keep passing out. Already did it in July but they lost the blood work so no confirmed diagnosis. It scared the hell out of them when I blacked out, hopefully it'll happen quicker this time so I can get out quicker Hope all goes well Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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