AlbanyNYToffee Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 As the 32 teams settle into their place in the draw I thought it would be fun to get the conversation started. We have been knocked out of the competition previously by Villareal, Sporting and Fiorentina. Only villareal available for round of 32. Personally i casually follow celtic and fiorentina so i would love to get them as well. Ideally we would play and beat the following teams: Villareal (r32), Liverpool (r16), Sporting (qf), Celtic (semis), Fiorentina (final) Quote
MikeO Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 As the 32 teams settle into their place in the draw I thought it would be fun to get the conversation started. We have been knocked out of the competition previously by Villareal, Sporting and Fiorentina. Only villareal available for round of 32. Personally i casually follow celtic and fiorentina so i would love to get them as well. Ideally we would play and beat the following teams: Villareal (r32), Liverpool (r16), Sporting (qf), Celtic (semis), Fiorentina (final) Villarreal knocked us out of the Champions League, not UEFA (as Europa was then). Quote
Deacs Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Can we draw the shite in the next round or can we not get teams from the same country at that stage??? Quote
gethinO Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) We can't draw them as you won't play a team from the same country as you until the last 16 (if it happens obviously). Really hoping for a decent draw. The away game will fall on the Thursday in half term so as a teacher, I'm really excited that I might actually be able to go away this year. Ajax, Andrelecht, Sevilla, PSV would all be great trips. Can we draw the shite in the next round or can we not get teams from the same country at that stage??? Edited December 11, 2014 by Geth Quote
MikeO Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Can we draw the shite in the next round or can we not get teams from the same country at that stage??? No we can't, we can't be drawn against any English team (or Wolfsburg) until the last sixteen, when the draw is completely open. Quote
MikeO Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Teachers obviously type faster . Quote
MC11 Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 We can't draw them as you won't play a team from the same country as you until the last 16 (if it happens obviously). Really hoping for a decent draw. The away game will fall on the Thursday in half term so as a teacher, I'm really excited that I might actually be able to go away this year. Ajax, Andrelecht, Sevilla, PSV would all be great trips. We don't want Sevilla. If any team is going to knock us out it'll be them. markjazzbassist 1 Quote
MikeO Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Much more open and interesting competition to be in than the Champios League; there you have maybe four possible winners. Europa is wide open; any one of Fiorentina, Inter, Sevilla, Villarreal, Zenit, Sporting, Wolfsburg, Bilbao + us, Liverpool and (even) Spurs have a good chance; and there are decent outside bets beyond those eleven. Intruiging, far more so than the CL imo. Quote
MikeO Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Possible opposition. Europa League runners-up: Villarreal, Torino, Celtic, PSV Eindhoven, Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk, Sevilla, Young Boys, Aalborg, Guingamp, Trabzonspor Unseeded Champions League teams: Anderlecht, Roma, Ajax Quote
markjazzbassist Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Possible opposition. Europa League runners-up: Villarreal, Torino, Celtic, PSV Eindhoven, Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk, Sevilla, Young Boys, Aalborg, Guingamp, Trabzonspor Unseeded Champions League teams: Anderlecht, Roma, Ajax thanks mike. really fear Roma, Sevilla. Wouldn't like Torino or Villareal till later on, but the rest I'm confident with. Would really really love Celtic. Nice and easy travel, players wouldn't be out of whack for the prem and i'm pretty sure we'd win both matches. Quote
AlbanyNYToffee Posted December 12, 2014 Author Report Posted December 12, 2014 Best case: Celtic, Dnipro, Young Boys, Aalborg, Guingamp Fair enough: Villareal, PSV, Trabzonspor Difficult: Ajax, Anderlecht, Torino Disaster: Sevilla, Roma Elston Gunnn 1 Quote
marcopaulo Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Wonder if collina will come out of retirement again Quote
Cornish Steve Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Isn't Celtic the same country - or did the Scottish independence vote actually pass? Quote
Elston Gunnn Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Best case: Celtic, Dnipro, Young Boys, Aalborg, Guingamp Fair enough: Villareal, PSV, Trabzonspor Difficult: Ajax, Anderlecht, Torino Disaster: Sevilla, Roma I'd think the very best case, in terms of combo of relatively weak opponent and close travel would be Aalborg, Guingamp, Young Boys. Celtic, too? Are they weak squad? Dnipro looks a long trip. Quote
markjazzbassist Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Isn't Celtic the same country - or did the Scottish independence vote actually pass? Great point Steve. My understanding is since they play in a different league we can play them. Quote
MikeO Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Isn't Celtic the same country - or did the Scottish independence vote actually pass? As you well know Steve for the purposes of football England, Scotland and Wales are separate countries......apart from the several Welsh teams that count as English and the English team that's Scottish. It's perfectly simple . Quote
markjazzbassist Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 As you well know Steve for the purposes of football England, Scotland and Wales are separate countries......apart from the several Welsh teams that count as English and the English team that's Scottish. It's perfectly simple . Which English team is Scottish? Quote
Cornish Steve Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 As you well know Steve for the purposes of football England, Scotland and Wales are separate countries......apart from the several Welsh teams that count as English and the English team that's Scottish. It's perfectly simple . I wasn't 100 percent sure, because there's a certain greyness to it. As you say, Berwick (English team) plays in the Scottish league. Swansea (Welsh team) plays in the English league while Rhyl (Welsh team) plays in the Welsh league. What if Rangers, for example, chose to play in the English league? It gets a bit messy. Anyway, for now, what you're saying is that Everton could face Celtic. Quote
Cornish Steve Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Which English team is Scottish? Berwick Rangers. Berwick-on-Tweed is just south of the border. Quote
Cornish Steve Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Thinking about this more, it could get even more confusing if/when the Ulster teams play in the Irish league. The rule, in effect, has nothing to do with countries but with the leagues in which teams play. Quote
MikeO Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 I wasn't 100 percent sure, because there's a certain greyness to it. As you say, Berwick (English team) plays in the Scottish league. Swansea (Welsh team) plays in the English league while Rhyl (Welsh team) plays in the Welsh league. What if Rangers, for example, chose to play in the English league? It gets a bit messy. Anyway, for now, what you're saying is that Everton could face Celtic. Thought you were being sarcastic, sorry. Not forgetting Cardiff (Welsh playing in England), Merthyr Town, Newport County, Wrexham and Colwyn Bay (also Welsh) playing further down the pyramid. Also Guernsey play in the English system. Thinking about this more, it could get even more confusing if/when the Ulster teams play in the Irish league. The rule, in effect, has nothing to do with countries but with the leagues in which teams play. Absolutely. Quote
Cornish Steve Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Thought you were being sarcastic, sorry. Not forgetting Cardiff (Welsh playing in England), Merthyr Town, Newport County, Wrexham and Colwyn Bay (also Welsh in England) playing further down the pyramid. Also Guernsey play in the English system. Absolutely. For example, I could see the Benelux countries forming their own league at some point. Guernsey could play in the French leagues. Maybe, over time, there will be a European Super League. At that point, UEFA are going to have to switch explicitly from national leagues to simply leagues. Quote
MikeO Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Looking into it there are more examples in the UK and around Europe. The New Saints are based in England but play in the Welsh league system, likewise Newcastle (Shropshire) and Bucknell. San Marino Calcio play in the Italian league, Monaco play in France, Andorra play in Spain, UE Bossost (Spanish) play in France, FC Busigen (German) play in Switzerland, AP Campionese (Italy) play in Switzerland and so do Liechtensteiner. Quote
MikeO Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 For example, I could see the Benelux countries forming their own league at some point. Guernsey could play in the French leagues. Maybe, over time, there will be a European Super League. At that point, UEFA are going to have to switch explicitly from national leagues to simply leagues. That's been discussed several times. I hope it never happens. Quote
Cornish Steve Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 That's been discussed several times. I hope it never happens. Totally agree. It would ruin the sport and squeeze the very life out of it. Quote
Peter H Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 So the draw is on soon? We can get one of these, Villarreal, Torino, Celtic, PSV Eindhoven, Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk, Sevilla, BSC Young Boys, Aalborg, Guingamp, Trabzonspor, Roma, Anderlecht or Ajax. Id prefer Aalborg, would only take me a few hours by car and we should beat them. (famous last words) Quote
Hafnia Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Young Boys great.... they have won their last 5 games, 3rd in the swiss league... Edited December 15, 2014 by Hafnia Quote
Newty82 Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 Shouldn't be too bad. Are they Swiss?? Quote
MikeO Posted December 15, 2014 Report Posted December 15, 2014 Young Boys First game out. Not too bad is my first reaction, but that's not based on any knowledge, just reputation. Quote
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