MC11 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 I really dont know how to feel about Martinez. I like him, i like what he wants to do with the team but he might be trying to push a square peg through a round hole. Someone mentioned that the players are better than this, which is true but they are also not good enough to play the way Martinez wants them to play. So who's fault is it? Martinez for setting up a tactic that the team cant play or the team for not playing as well as last year because lets face it, they are shite at the moment. None of the following are even near their best. Howard, Coleman, Jagielka, Distin, Baines, Barry, McCarthy, Lukaku, McGeady and Barkley. Thats almost an entire starting eleven. Dogshite all fucking season. We dont know much about Kone or Besic, are they good enough? It has nothing to do with players not being good enough - they are. It's the manager who is tactically inept. He plays one way and he is point blank refusing to change it... He's said himself, he won't change it. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Martinez isn't lasting the season. If any of you are betting men get some money on him being the next manager to get the sack. MC11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Martinez isn't lasting the season. If any of you are betting men get some money on him being the next manager to get the sack. Who comes in for him though? There aren't many decent candidates knocking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Martinez isn't lasting the season. If any of you are betting men get some money on him being the next manager to get the sack. The problem is Romey our board are more forgiving. The 5th place finish last season has bought him time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Martinez isn't lasting the season. If any of you are betting men get some money on him being the next manager to get the sack. Kenwright's not paying that contract up though so he'd need to walk or come to some arrangement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Who comes in for him though? There aren't many decent candidates knocking about. Who is worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 I can understand playing badly. I don't understand not giving 100%. Barry is seriously fucking me off This for me. It's more damning for Martinez that the players act like they couldn't care less rather than his tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Oviedo and Lukaku on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 250 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 If we can only just get a goal back..........we might only lose 4-1. If you don't laugh, you'll cry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 It is pointless to continue to ask people to do something they are unable to do. Most of our players can't do what Martinez expects or wants them to do. As it stands we will be 4 points, possibly 3, off 18th place in an hour or so. If we weren't in Europe Martinez would be sacked. Just because we're in Europe is no reason to keep him. Sideliner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Come on now lads let's go for it. Fuck all to lose now. Rom and Ovy on for Besic and Mirralas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Who comes in for him though? There aren't many decent candidates knocking about. I'm not saying sack him, btw, I just think the board are going to get very twitchy and hit that button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 It has nothing to do with players not being good enough - they are. It's the manager who is tactically inept. He plays one way and he is point blank refusing to change it... He's said himself, he won't change it. Still does not change the fact that the players are nowhere near their best. Barkley looks lost, Coleman and Baines nowhere near their best. Distin and Jags are just terrible. Barry who was brilliant at times last year is not good enough for Everton. Lukaku dropped because he has been bad. Etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 What would Barry have to do to get taken off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Besic and Mirallas off!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 So you dont remember the Mike Walker days in the 90s? I've seen a lot fucking worse than this. The problem is we have last year to compare, that's what making this season seem to bad. Martinez must learn from his mistakes and quickly. Sacking him would result in us getting a toss manager that could never dream of getting us 5th ever. Who is available that could do that? Mclaren? hahah Yes, agreed. The Mike Walker days were dire too. But there seems something more fundamental wroong at the moment. I guess it's because Walker was never successful at Everton but Martinez is going backwards at a frightening rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msloan78 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 We are dreadful. 5pt gap to the team above us before kick off... Same gap to the bottom 3. I've not got a feed for this game, but everything I've read and heard so far says that we could get a bit of a smacking here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 There's no way he'd be sacked if he hadn't splashed 28 mil on one player. That will kill bill. If it hurts his pockets and he sees no positivety, he's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Barkley should have scored there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddytoffee Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Besic off what the fuck how is Barry on also mirralas off I'm flabbergasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 How does Barry not get subbed out? I just don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 How many times does Barkley wanna kick his own feet this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Alcaraz, Coleman and Naismith fucking around with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddytoffee Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Should have been 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 I'm seriously starting to get annoyed by Martinez' love affair with Barry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Why is Naisy defending alone in the corner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee_in_LA Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 I guess Besic being on a yellow is why he was taken off but FFS, how is Barry not playing for the reserves right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanna Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Not jumping for that ball is fucking pathetic. Im not sure you can blame Martinez for players not giving 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Coleman day dreaming but made up for it with a great last ditch block/tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Angel Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 I'm sure we play no contact football in training cause I'm looking at something very unique out there. We are losing every battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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