MC11 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Rumour on twitter Liverpool FC have contacted Garbutts representatives and are hoping to secure his services via a tribunal in July. http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2015/01/liverpool-want-luke-garbutt/ Edited January 4, 2015 by MC11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Someone told me this at the match weeks ago. I'll be fucking furious at the club if this happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 It wouldn't surprise me. Would hate it but wouldn't be shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 He's someone I've spoken about on here for a while as a player I really rate, so I'd be so pissed off that the club allowed that to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 This is why we need to give him a few games. Anyone on the sideline for a long time would want to move. I just wish it wasnt to the shite. Baines should get a few games in the middle and Garbutt get a few at LB Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 The amount they spent on a young lb in Moreno makes me feel that this is no more than a twitter rumour. He'd be closer to a starting spot here than there. It wouldn't shock me if he opted to leave but more likely for somewhere he'll play as 1st choice. I'd be gutted if we didn't hang onto him because I think he'll be international quality in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 If he has decided to leave there is nothing the club can do to stop him, this rumour has been around for months so he may well have been tapped up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 If he has decided to leave there is nothing the club can do to stop him, this rumour has been around for months so he may well have been tapped up Exactly what I was going to say, pointless saying we'd be annoyed if the club allowed it to happen, if he won't sign he won't sign, fuck all we can do about it other than going silly money/making daft promises which is giving in to blackmail and not the way we want to be going as a club. Don't need mercenaries, however good. Damn sure the club are doing everything they can to keep him. Matt and duncanmckenzieismagic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Exactly what I was going to say, pointless saying we'd be annoyed if the club allowed it to happen, if he won't sign he won't sign, fuck all we can do about it other than going silly money/making daft promises which is giving in to blackmail and not the way we want to be going as a club. Don't need mercenaries, however good. Damn sure the club are doing everything they can to keep him. What I meant is that we shouldn't have allowed him to run his deal down this low. We've handed out contracts to people with 4 years left on their contracts. If for no other reason than to make sure we don't get fucked on a fee. Learnt nothing after Gosling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Exactly what I was going to say, pointless saying we'd be annoyed if the club allowed it to happen, if he won't sign he won't sign, fuck all we can do about it other than going silly money/making daft promises which is giving in to blackmail and not the way we want to be going as a club. Don't need mercenaries, however good. Damn sure the club are doing everything they can to keep him. I don't mean we "allowed" him to go to Liverpool,I mean thefact we've let one of our best prospects contract to run down thus giving him the opportunity to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Has he really got such thick skin to do that??? I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 What I meant is that we shouldn't have allowed him to run his deal down this low. We've handed out contracts to people with 4 years left on their contracts. If for no other reason than to make sure we don't get fucked on a fee. Learnt nothing after Gosling. I don't mean we "allowed" him to go to Liverpool,I mean thefact we've let one of our best prospects contract to run down thus giving him the opportunity to do it. Can anyone tell me exactly how we stop him running down his contract if he (and/or his agent) decide that's what they want to do? How do you know we've learned nothing from Gosling? The only mistake we made there was not putting a new offer on paper thus losing ourselves compensation, the loss of the player was a blessing. Luke's twenty times the prospect Gosling was, there'll be something on paper without a shadow of a doubt and the backroom team will be moving heaven and earth to get him to sign an extension. No-brainer. But I say again; If he won't sign one it's out of our hands and down to a tribunal. Fuck all we can do about it and fuck all we could ever have done about it without completely destabilising the squad and signing someone who stayed purely for money rather than any desire to play for Everton. duncanmckenzieismagic and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 im not sure hes that good to worry about losing him. Yes he is. He's going to go far. Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted January 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Yes he is. He's going to go far. He does the simple things well, which is always a good sign. I also think he'll go all the way. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Can anyone tell me exactly how we stop him running down his contract if he (and/or his agent) decide that's what they want to do? How do you know we've learned nothing from Gosling? The only mistake we made there was not putting a new offer on paper thus losing ourselves compensation, the loss of the player was a blessing. Luke's twenty times the prospect Gosling was, they'll be something on paper without a shadow of a doubt and the backroom team will be moving heaven and earth to get him to sign an extension. No-brainer. But I say again; If he won't sign one it's out of our hands and down to a tribunal. Fuck all we can do about it and fuck all we could ever have done about it without completely destabilising the squad and signing someone who stayed purely for money rather than any desire to play for Everton. Come on, Mike, the interest is recent (if it's even a reality), so we've had ample time to get something done while we were his best option. We've learnt nothing from Gosling because we've allowed him to get to the arse end of his deal before making any sort of effort, leaving us open to this sort of thing. I wasn't meaning about the balls up of not writing the offer down. We didn't 'steal' him from Leeds because he was crap, he hasn't had really good reviews from his loan spells because he's not very good, he isn't highly thought of in the England youth ranks for nothing. It just seems amateurish to let it get to this stage. With any luck, it's a load of bollocks and he re-signs with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 I can see where many are coming from here with it not being all EFC's fault... players will often have their own agenda/plans. It happens to the best of them - Barca have lost a few over the years, Pogba's a massive recent example. Fingers crossed we offer and he signs but none of us know the full story on this. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Come on, Mike, the interest is recent (if it's even a reality), so we've had ample time to get something done while we were his best option. We've learnt nothing from Gosling because we've allowed him to get to the arse end of his deal before making any sort of effort, leaving us open to this sort of thing. I wasn't meaning about the balls up of not writing the offer down. We didn't 'steal' him from Leeds because he was crap, he hasn't had really good reviews from his loan spells because he's not very good, he isn't highly thought of in the England youth ranks for nothing. It just seems amateurish to let it get to this stage. With any luck, it's a load of bollocks and he re-signs with us. Going round in circles so may as well stop. You don't have an iota of evidence to back any of that up (any more than I do my opinion) but if you think we're administrivlly really that pitiful then (imo) we'd be playing in Stanley Park on a Sunday morning with seven regular players. A football club is a vast multi-multi million pound operation and we have people of the callibre to run a company of that size. Maybe not at the level we'd like at times but they're not dave. duncanmckenzieismagic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Going round in circles so may as well stop. You don't have an iota of evidence to back any of that up (any more than I do my opinion) but if you think we're administrivlly really that pitiful then (imo) we'd be playing in Stanley Park on a Sunday morning with seven regular players. A football club is a vast multi-multi million pound operation and we have people of the callibre to run a company of that size. Maybe not at the level we'd like at times but they're not dave. Martinez has said we'll sit down with him soon to try and get something sorted, which suggests that we haven't at any point until now done that does it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Martinez has said we'll sit down with him soon to try and get something sorted, which suggests that we haven't at any point until now done that does it not? No manager in their right mind is going to divulge details of internal player negotiations. It's not the manager that arranges the contracts anyway, doesn't mean things haven't been going on behind the scenes for months or even years. It's inconceivable to me when you look at our record of tying down youngsters and established stars that he (and Mirallas for that matter) haven't been being worked on for a long time. Doesn't fit the model of how we work. Why would we single those two players out to be ignored? What can we possibly hope to gain from it? You think we want them to leave for free/on the cheap? Have we forgotten them? We don't know the story but it's certainly neither of those; it's nonsensical to believe otherwise imo. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 I occasionally talk sense, don't be so mean . MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 didn't a lot of people say the same about gosling and we're wrong it saved us money in the long run. Until they saw him play. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 didn't a lot of people say the same about gosling and we're wrong it saved us money in the long run. I don't know how anyone who has watched Garbutt play could say he's not good and wouldn't be a loss. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Garbutt is a £10m player already based on what I've seen. Seriously. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Garbutt is a £10m player already based on what I've seen. Seriously. So lets play him at LB and move Baines into the middle i know I sound like a broken record but if you build it, they will come. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 So lets play him at LB and move Baines into the middle i know I sound like a broken record but if you build it, they will come. Who do you piss off to bring a LB into central midfield? I couldn't see any of them being particularly happy about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Who do you piss off to bring a LB into central midfield? I couldn't see any of them being particularly happy about it.It all depends on Baines I guess. He has been tried there a couple of times so Im assuming that he is up for it. Apparently RM took him to a game to see Lahm play there so I think they have discussed it. Barry should be dropped and RM seems to like to play players that he trusts (Baines, Barry etc) so by switching Baines to Barrys position he is able to keep a trusted player in the midfield. I dont reallt care if Barry gets pissed off. He should be pissed off considering his form this season. Edited January 5, 2015 by Peter H Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 It all depends on Baines I guess. He has been tried there a couple of times so Im assuming that he is up for it. Apparently RM took him to a game to see Lahm play there so I think they have discussed it. Barry should be dropped and RM seems to like to play players that he trusts (Baines, Barry etc) so by switching Baines to Barrys position he is able to keep a trusted player in the midfield. I dont reallt care if Barry gets pissed off. He should be pissed off considering his form this season. I was thinking of Besic, not Barry. He's brought in and then we convert a LB to play where he does. Great confidence boost for the lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Interesting debate this. Basically my two cents is this. He's 22 in May. Sit the lad down. Explain that he is Evertons future Number 1 left back. Sign a contract and he will play in cup games and get at least 20 minutes in most fixtures. Within 1 year he will be expected to be challenging Baines for the first team spot. If this doesn't happen we will sell him at an agreed price. He can't ask for much fairer Matt and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Or here's a left field suggestion...... Sell Baines for £12m+ - someone will deffo pay that, Spurs, Arsenal, City. Put that money into a class centre half. Oviedo can cover at Left back. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenosetoffee Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 I would hate it if he went to Liverpool. If he went to another premier league club and got game time then I would be a bit happier about it but to leave Everton to sit on the bench at Liverpool would be frustrating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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