MikeO Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Erm? image.jpeg Don't get the relevance to the topic . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Don't get the relevance to the topic . That image shows how the table would look if all ref decisions were made correctly. Doesn't mean much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Don't get the relevance to the topic . Quite a few people have mentioned the 'luck' element when others have been saying its down to roberto. Just showing that they actually might have a point! Not much of one, but there is some evidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Quite a few people have mentioned the 'luck' element when others have been saying its down to roberto. Just showing that they actually might have a point! Not much of one, but there is some evidence Just surprised that such a big "Martinez out" man would post something even remotely in his defence. In shock . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 That image shows how the table would look if all ref decisions were made correctly. Doesn't mean much. shows how much the refs favor the red shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/28/roberto-martinez-could-be-sacked-next-week-with-everton-board-me/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Just surprised that such a big "Martinez out" man would post something even remotely in his defence. In shock . Everyone deserves a fair trial! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-board-meeting-roberto-martinez-11259785 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 I thought they had already had one. Won't hold my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankurette Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 According to GOT, if the Echo says it, it's definitely on. Speaking of GOT, I'm following the Martinez thread over there and I wish people would cut it out with the creepy comments about Beth (Bob's wife). Whatever you think about Martinez, let's not bring his family into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 According to GOT, if the Echo says it, it's definitely on. the same Echo that reports everything after everyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Full page article in Telegraph Sport today headed 'Martinez exit is a matter of when, not if'. Says that board meeting today will discuss the future of Martinez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Martinez knows the writing is on the wall. The old " i'm ready to fight for the job ". Be very surprised if he's in charge against Norwich last game. Kankurette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofanon Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Is he still here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankurette Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 He's not trending on Twitter, so I'll take that as a yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 What's a GOT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 What's a GOT? Grand Old Team. (forum) They'll ban you for sneezing over there. Still NOT bitter. rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3566216/Everton-boss-Roberto-Martinez-speaks-Jamie-Carragher-t-manage-club-think-ve-got-win-losing-job.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethinO Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3566216/Everton-boss-Roberto-Martinez-speaks-Jamie-Carragher-t-manage-club-think-ve-got-win-losing-job.html The way he speaks in that interview makes me think he'll be here next season. I hope I'm wrong but have a bad feeling after reading that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3566216/Everton-boss-Roberto-Martinez-speaks-Jamie-Carragher-t-manage-club-think-ve-got-win-losing-job.html Good interview. Not sure what to make of the answers. Will read again when I'm not half asleep! I kind of get an idea that he is obsessed with winning silverware, which is fine but it seems to be at the expense of league results. I also get that he isn't going to change his methods and/or philosophy anytime soon, which again is fine, if they actually bloody work. Carragher tries to go at the weakness of our play...the bad defending...Martinez seems to dodge like a politician. It worries me that there doesn't seem to be any real recognition of a defensive issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) MARTINEZ: "We are not going to be a team that is just going to be solid, that keeps a clean sheet and waits for a chance to score. We have been built to take control of the game, to break teams down from open play. That is something I get a real joy from. CARRAGHER: But does that not change in the game at times? MARTINEZ: Yes, but that is game management. That is making certain decisions that you shouldn't throw those leads away. The modern trend now in football is to work on being very organised and hitting teams on the counter. That is the easiest and most economical way of playing. You don't get hurt. I don't want to be like that. As a manager, I will never look away from the style I want." Just a couple of observations in response: What is wrong with keeping a clean sheet? We don't control games, I can't remember the last time we completely bossed a team for 90 minutes. Why should your joy have anything to do with it? You are paid obscene amounts of money to get Everton FC winning, nothing else. Our game management is probably the worst in league. If we 'shouldn't throw those leads away', why do we keep doing it? Back to those clean sheets... In summary, you don't want to follow the trend of adopting, in your words, 'the easiest and most economical way of playing'. Obvious really, who doesn't mind making their job harder as long as they don't follow 'modern trends'? Apart from that, I agree whole heartedly with everything he says and everything he is trying to do for this football club... Edited April 29, 2016 by nogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Stubborn fool. He can take his philosophies, dip 'em in chocolate sauce, and shove 'em up is ass because they are worthless. So sick of his shit. Arrogant as they come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Where does he mention that we look like the most unfit team in the league at times. Where does that little detail fit into his brilliant grand master plan ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 MARTINEZ: "We are not going to be a team that is just going to be solid, that keeps a clean sheet and waits for a chance to score. We have been built to take control of the game, to break teams down from open play. That is something I get a real joy from. CARRAGHER: But does that not change in the game at times? MARTINEZ: Yes, but that is game management. That is making certain decisions that you shouldn't throw those leads away. The modern trend now in football is to work on being very organised and hitting teams on the counter. That is the easiest and most economical way of playing. You don't get hurt. I don't want to be like that. As a manager, I will never look away from the style I want." Just a couple of observations in response: What is wrong with keeping a clean sheet? We don't control games, I can't remember the last time we completely bossed a team for 90 minutes. Why should your joy have anything to do with it? You are paid obscene amounts of money to get Everton FC winning, nothing else. Our game management is probably the worst in league. If we 'shouldn't throw those leads away', why do we keep doing it? Back to those clean sheets... In summary, you don't want to follow the trend of adopting, in your words, 'the easiest and most economical way of playing'. Obvious really, who doesn't mind making their job harder as long as they don't follow 'modern trends'? Apart from that, I agree whole heartedly with everything he says and everything he is trying to do for this football club... Counter attacking football is trendy? The Italians have been doing it for decades!! Hardly trendy, he's delusional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 "I will never look away from the style I want" says it all for me he's as stubborn as Moyes was He does realise that every game and every opponent is different and it's a results game!? One dimensional system and mentality, fuck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 He is not even arsed about winning matches. Mentioning 650 passed per game rather than winning the league is just weird. Wrong priorities Roberto. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 It's the 'it gives me immense joy' bit that sums it all up for me. This is one big ego trip for him, all about watching nice tippy-tappy football on the training field, being hailed as a 'purist', and the rest doesn't register for him. There should be nothing giving him joy in football right now, he shouldn't be sleeping at night figuring out how to WIN, not talking about the 'joy' he gets in passing football. He's a dilletant, he might as we be playing Footba Manager, he doesn't get what matters to fans or to football clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 "I want to build my teams so I don't have to rely on the quality of the individual in order to break teams down and keep a clean sheet rather than the other way around. That is my choice." Interesting how completely at odds this is with Baines' 'no chemistry' comments. I'm with Leighton - we play like a team of individuals, there is no cohesion at the back especially, and if it wasn't for Lukaku's goals and individual moments from the likes of Geri, Lennon and Ross, we'd be in real shit this season. So if that is the exact polar opposite of what Martinez claims he is trying to achieve, it just shows how badly he has failed. I'm all for team over the individual; I don't see anything like that in our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/10263645/everton-legends-on-martinez Anyone notice Jurgen Klopp celebrating the Everton goal? Edited April 30, 2016 by duncanmckenzieismagic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankurette Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 How the hell did Carragher manage to sit through that without wincing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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