Sibdane Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 The first presidential debate is tonight. I'm hoping Biden keeps his composure and Trump gets flustered and acts like the big baby he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 my local baseball team is in the playoffs i'm watching that. cleveland is hosting baseball playoffs tonight and the presidential debate. baseball at the heart of downtown, debate is at the cleveland clinic about 80 blocks east. big day for the city. hope trump supporters don't burn it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 That was tough to watch but exactly what was expected. Trump just talked over Biden and the moderator, and Biden stammered a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 On 24/09/2020 at 18:47, Palfy said: We live in a fucked up world mate, and unfortunately we live under the shadow of the two most fucked up Government's in the western world. Welcome to the pleasure dome. Not even close old mate, you live in a country where every politician in the parliament are all varying flavours of milquetoast liberal, the rest of the western world are voting in people with roots in actual fascism and actual nazism https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36130006 We have been living in the most peaceful, prosperous period of human history for the last 85 years and a good part of that has to be attributed to relatively benign US hegemony. The Dunning-Kreuger effect is a cognitive bias that it's very useful to be aware of but cognitive distortions are probably doing the most damage to our politics right now. Have a read up on catastrophising and have a cup of tea. https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/basics/catastrophizing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Chach said: Not even close old mate, you live in a country where every politician in the parliament are all varying flavours of milquetoast liberal, the rest of the western world are voting in people with roots in actual fascism and actual nazism https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36130006 We have been living in the most peaceful, prosperous period of human history for the last 85 years and a good part of that has to be attributed to relatively benign US hegemony. The Dunning-Kreuger effect is a cognitive bias that it's very useful to be aware of but cognitive distortions are probably doing the most damage to our politics right now. Have a read up on catastrophising and have a cup of tea. https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/basics/catastrophizing No you are wrong Trump and Boris are dictators, they sack and use smear tactics against anybody who disagrees with there policies, they aren’t responsible for most of the last 85 years of peace and prosperity. Obviously whilst you’ve been away you have been brushing up on your reading, so you have probably been waiting for a while to use catastrophizing theory, but on this occasion you have used it in the wrong context, because others and myself have not been catastrophizing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 Trump has covid. One month before the election. The writers of 2020 are really pulling out all the stops. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 Oh no. How terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: Trump has covid. One month before the election. The writers of 2020 are really pulling out all the stops. Could be a campaign move. When you're behind in the polls something like this could rally the public behind the leader in a surge of patriotic support. Johnson got a bump in popularity when he had Covid. If he does have it, I wish him a speedy recovery. Old and overweight he is right in the danger zone. I wish him a crushing defeat in November, not death. MikeO and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, holystove said: Could be a campaign move. When you're behind in the polls something like this could rally the public behind the leader in a surge of patriotic support. Johnson got a bump in popularity when he had Covid. If he does have it, I wish him a speedy recovery. Old and overweight he is right in the danger zone. I wish him a crushing defeat in November, not death. My immediate rection also. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 campaign move to cover up the fact he didn't pay taxes for decades. just trying to get that out of the media cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 hours ago, holystove said: Could be a campaign move. When you're behind in the polls something like this could rally the public behind the leader in a surge of patriotic support. Johnson got a bump in popularity when he had Covid. If he does have it, I wish him a speedy recovery. Old and overweight he is right in the danger zone. I wish him a crushing defeat in November, not death. I’m almost embarrassed to say I didn’t think he’d stoop so low. But now you’ve said it, makes utter sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 6 hours ago, holystove said: Could be a campaign move. When you're behind in the polls something like this could rally the public behind the leader in a surge of patriotic support. Johnson got a bump in popularity when he had Covid. If he does have it, I wish him a speedy recovery. Old and overweight he is right in the danger zone. I wish him a crushing defeat in November, not death. This was exactly my first thought. When an individual has no regard for truth versus fiction such that everything that comes from his mouth is designed to maximize self-interest, you have to consider whether this announcement falls into the same category. He can win sympathy, with the country uniting around his recovery; he can avoid the remaining debates; he can suddenly emerge healthy to claim it's a scam or that he's discovered the vaccine; he can pressure his opponent to stop campaigning, thereby recovering from his crippling shortage of campaign cash; and so on. Having said all that, there does appear to be a certain level of panic among West Wing staff and senior party officials who, largely to appease the president, have deliberately avoided wearing masks around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 There's a conspiracy theory wherever you look. Now some Republicans are claiming that the Democrats managed to infect the president by hiding the coronavirus in his debate microphone. https://www.newsweek.com/trump-coronavirus-debate-democrats-1535910 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: There's a conspiracy theory wherever you look. Now some Republicans are claiming that the Democrats managed to infect the president by hiding the coronavirus in his debate microphone. https://www.newsweek.com/trump-coronavirus-debate-democrats-1535910 So they’re accusing Democrats of treason?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: There's a conspiracy theory wherever you look. Now some Republicans are claiming that the Democrats managed to infect the president by hiding the coronavirus in his debate microphone. https://www.newsweek.com/trump-coronavirus-debate-democrats-1535910 It was a fox debTe. Chris Wallace is fox. So trump and co would be blaming their propaganda wing for doing it. there is no depth they won’t stoop to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 13 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: There's a conspiracy theory wherever you look. Now some Republicans are claiming that the Democrats managed to infect the president by hiding the coronavirus in his debate microphone. https://www.newsweek.com/trump-coronavirus-debate-democrats-1535910 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted October 4, 2020 Report Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 02/10/2020 at 09:13, holystove said: Could be a campaign move. When you're behind in the polls something like this could rally the public behind the leader in a surge of patriotic support. Johnson got a bump in popularity when he had Covid. If he does have it, I wish him a speedy recovery. Old and overweight he is right in the danger zone. I wish him a crushing defeat in November, not death. That’s what I thought, but hope I’m wrong not even Trump could sink that low, could he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 24, 2020 Report Share Posted October 24, 2020 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54674313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Sibdane Posted November 2, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 Tomorrow is the big day. Keeping my fingers crossed that Trump becomes a lame duck. Romey 1878, markjazzbassist, Zoo 2.0 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sibdane said: Tomorrow is the big day. Keeping my fingers crossed that Trump becomes a lame duck. With all the anti-Trump stuff online it seems like a forgone conclusion that he's going to lose, but that's what it was like four years ago and he ended up being elected. I'd be very, very surprised if Biden isn't the winner, but stranger things (ironically surrounding this very subject) have happened before so anything is possible. I'm not interested one bit in politics, so whoever is going to help to rebuilt the US economy best following what is a global pandemic gets my nod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallToffeee Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: With all the anti-Trump stuff online it seems like a forgone conclusion that he's going to lose, but that's what it was like four years ago and he ended up being elected. I'd be very, very surprised if Biden isn't the winner, but stranger things (ironically surrounding this very subject) have happened before so anything is possible. I'm not interested one bit in politics, so whoever is going to help to rebuilt the US economy best following what is a global pandemic gets my nod. I think people are in for a massive shock with this. I can see a landslide for Trump. Theres no enthusiasm for Biden its just a matter of anyone but Trump. Having left wing riots all over the country isn't helping the Dems cause. His fans love him and wont budge. On twitter seen plenty of Hillary voters saying they're voting Trump this time.. doesnt carry too much weight mind with the amount of bots out there Matt and Zoo 2.0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 16 hours ago, Sibdane said: Tomorrow is the big day. Keeping my fingers crossed that Trump becomes a lame duck. I wish today was the big day, and that we would have an answer by tomorrow. Unfortunately, we're probably not going to know anything for a few days, possibly weeks. Seeing as how the outcome likely won't be known tonight, I'm more anxious to see how a bunch of these Senate races turn out. Democratic fundraising shattered records this campaign, and if they can take the Senate and retain the House (which is very likely), even if Drumpf is re-elected, he won't be able to get shit done. Which sounds just... absolutely lovely to me. markjazzbassist, Palfy and Sibdane 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 I'm in a hurry to replace the thread title that irks me every time I view discussions in the 'Off Topic' area. There's no doubt that Biden will handily win the popular vote. The big question is whether Trump's allies (including judges) can tip the balance in enough swing states - through voter suppression, throwing out votes, Post Office delays, and intimidation - for him to win the electoral college vote. I'm concerned but quietly confident this evil man will be forced out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 Well now you’ve jinxed the whole thing Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: I wish today was the big day, and that we would have an answer by tomorrow. Unfortunately, we're probably not going to know anything for a few days, possibly weeks. Seeing as how the outcome likely won't be known tonight, I'm more anxious to see how a bunch of these Senate races turn out. Democratic fundraising shattered records this campaign, and if they can take the Senate and retain the House (which is very likely), even if Drumpf is re-elected, he won't be able to get shit done. Which sounds just... absolutely lovely to me. You can imagine the tantrums now if that was to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 my wife and i voted, lets hope the orange man is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 I got back a little while ago. Luckily, I didn't have to wait very long. I was in and out in about 5 mins. Curious to see if Espy can win a Senate seat in MS. Obviously hoping Drumpf is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 It's uh....it's not looking good. We still might not know by tomorrow, but right now it's looking bleak. And I also don't see the Senate flipping. Honestly at this point, how am I shocked by this. We have an openly white supremacist in office, in a country built upon and continuing to further white supremacy. This shouldn't be shocking anymore. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: It's uh....it's not looking good. We still might not know by tomorrow, but right now it's looking bleak. And I also don't see the Senate flipping. Honestly at this point, how am I shocked by this. We have an openly white supremacist in office, in a country built upon and continuing to further white supremacy. This shouldn't be shocking anymore. Currently praying that PA and one of the other swing states currently red will flip to blue. We also have to keep hold of Nevada... but yeah, it's not looking too great. It's also likely that Biden wins the popular vote which makes this even harder to take. I could see this coming, but I'm still shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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