Cornish Steve Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Watch for some explosive news to appear tomorrow - the day before the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Watch for some explosive news to appear tomorrow - the day before the election. That would be later today, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Very interesting article. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/7/13512960/donald-trump-plato-democracy-tyranny-fascism-2016-elections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Very interesting article. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/7/13512960/donald-trump-plato-democracy-tyranny-fascism-2016-elections It's definitely an interesting read. Trump is a loose cannon and should be nowhere the decision-making process. I'm completely disappointed by the two candidates we have, but at least Hillary is predictable to a certain degree. Trump is a bully and like the article points out, a vindictive and spiteful person. I was originally going to vote for neither, but I'm voting for Hillary now even though she won't win in my state; there is literally no one else to vote for. ...Sad times for the USA right now. Edited November 7, 2016 by TonkaRoost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Very interesting article. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/7/13512960/donald-trump-plato-democracy-tyranny-fascism-2016-elections Very. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Tonka if Trump gets in sad times for all of us mate the world's going crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Watch for some explosive news to appear tomorrow - the day before the election. Still waiting for that final shoe to drop... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Big day is here, I still think Hillary will win and the senate will go democrat, house will stay republican Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 congress, senate.... we have commons and lords, Government is in commons, but Lords can overule them in dire circumstances. Is it the same in USA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 congress, senate.... we have commons and lords, Government is in commons, but Lords can overule them in dire circumstances. Is it the same in USA? But then the commons can use the Parliament Act to overrule the overrule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 But then the commons can use the Parliament Act to overrule the overrule. Yes but trying to keep it simple so somebody can explain the USA system in an equally simple way. Lets be honest here I am simple too when it comes to government politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Big day is here, I still think Hillary will win and the senate will go democrat, house will stay republican That would realistically be the best case scenario. Hope you'll be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) 3 systems in us. Judiciary the Supreme Court. Executive the president and Vice President. Legislative congress. Congress is made up of the House of Representatives and senate. Bills and laws get passed in the house first then go to the senate (still in the congress) for approval then to the president. Edited November 8, 2016 by markjazzbassist rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 3 systems in us. Judiciary the Supreme Court. Executive the president and Vice President. Legislative congress. Congress is made up of the House of Representatives and senate. Bills and laws get passed in the house first then go to the senate (still in the congress) for approval then to the president. If the two houses disagree, then they must work together to resolve their differences. The president can choose to veto, but a sufficiently large vote can override that veto. rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 So the Senators are also Congressmen but not all Congressmen are Senators? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) So the Senators are also Congressmen but not all Congressmen are Senators?Technically correct but they go but congressmen (house) and senator (senate). To steve's point. House can pass and senate votes and denies, then house would need a super majority 66.66 to get it to bypass senate. President has ultimate veto power but senate super majority could bypass that. But since it's so divided a super majority in either house or senate is extremely rare so as to be non existent really. Edited November 8, 2016 by markjazzbassist rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Here's the most closely watched and most often quoted poll. This is painfully close. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Voted at 7:45 AM Eastern time. GO HILLARY. Still very nervous though. rubecula and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 does the losing person get secret service protection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Skybet currently have Hillary at 1/8, Trump at 5/1. Still not confident, remain were even more certain to win in their view at the equivalent stage of Brexit, 1/14 from memory. Everything crossed though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 does the losing person get secret service protection? Hopefully Trump doesn't even if he wins. Disgusting slob cunt. Ask me how I really feel. Good question though.... rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 First polls close in 17 minutes. rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Worth sticking a oner on that if Trump wins you could have a good weekend away to get over it and if he loses your be that relieved you wouldn't care about your loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Citizens are voting for more than a president, senators, and House members. There are several ballot initiatives, a common one being legalized marijuana. I predict that the latter will win hands down across the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Skybet currently have Hillary at 1/8, Trump at 5/1. Still not confident, remain were even more certain to win in their view at the equivalent stage of Brexit, 1/14 from memory. Everything crossed though. Mike - we've heard nothing but little hints so far, but I suspect this is going to be very very close - certainly closer than the polls have been predicting. I'll be very surprised if there's any kind of early result. This could drag on a bit. Then again, I have a poor track record of predictions in recent years, so there's hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Trump starting to pull away. Shit is getting scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Fuck fuck fuck trump is looking like he could win this FFS this is scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I'm so sorry everyone. The USA made a catastrophic mistake tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Yes, it really is that bad. I'd put money on him winning right now. Even now, I stick by this terrifying prediction. And I have another take on this election: It won't be won by either major party; it will be won by organized crime. I'm truly sorry, folks. Never in my life have I wanted to be more wrong, but I could see it coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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