Elston Gunnn Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I'm so sorry everyone. The USA made a catastrophic mistake tonight. Agree with Keithb18 here. A hate-filled, reckless decision, electing a sociopathic near-fascist. A man who has cheated virtually everyone with whom he has done business. One can speculate that this is a result of profound alienation, so profound that Trump voters don't care what Trump says. But my guess is that some significant numbers of his voters absolutely agree with his ugly views, with every ugly thing he says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Very interesting article. http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/7/13512960/donald-trump-plato-democracy-tyranny-fascism-2016-elections Good read. "A vulgar right-wing populism emerges out of a whirlwind of anti-establishment hysteria." After Trump and Brexit, there is no doubt in my mind that Le Pen will win in France in May '17. China doesn't have to do anything to become the world power, we (western civilization) will just take ourselves down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/cnns-van-jones-this-was-a-white-lash-against-a-changi-1788735808 this for me.. also "imagine how scared the women whom he sexually assaulted then threatened again last month feel right now" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Stop the World I want to get off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 America is forever sticking it's nose in saying which countries shouldn't have nuclear weapons. After this result the same needs to be done to America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Well... I'm a little speechless to be honest. 2016 seems to be sending the world back to pre-WW2. It's got to be a social experiment led by aliens, it's the only explanation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Well... I'm a little speechless to be honest. 2016 seems to be sending the world back to pre-WW2. It's got to be a social experiment led by aliens, it's the only explanation... 2016 = non-educated white voter responding to a populist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 2016 = non-educated white voter responding to a populist well, yeah, if you want to get all factual about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I really have no words. I didn't think he'd win, and I definitely didn't think he'd pull away like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I'm truly sorry, folks. Never in my life have I wanted to be more wrong, but I could see it coming. Me also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 No wonder so many great people died in 2016, they saw it coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 There are no words to describe my feeling right now. As an American, I am fucking scared beyond belief and feel this is quite possibly the worst thing that has happened to not only the USA but the world in a very long time. To have this sociopath in power in 2016 is beyond any logical thinking. This is Brexit 2.0 and I could smell this from 1,000 miles away. If I manage to avoid major depression setting in, it will be a fucking miracle. I feel like crawling into a hole and never coming out. Fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkpie Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 PS - To think I used to get so worked up and bent over Everton losing (and Roberto for that matter) is now laughable at this moment. This puts everything into perspective in a way that I never imagined before. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 The Republicans won the House and the Senate too. I also didn't see that coming. This is just insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Fuck. This goes to prove a point that America is made up of a lot of uneducated people. We are well and truly fucked. My only hope is that the republican fight with trump and it becomes a disaster where they don't get anything done. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 2016 = non-educated white voter responding to a populist well, yeah, if you want to get all factual about it Bit unfair to imply everyone who voted this way (and for Brexit) was uneducated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Bit unfair to imply everyone who voted this way (and for Brexit) was uneducated. True, but it's certainly a factor along with desperation for change from disenchanted people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 And maybe politicians will now realise they should do their fucking job and look after ALL the people, rather than just a select few. You can only shit on the people for so long before they'll fight back and bite you on the arse. Now everyone has to deal with the consequences. Matt, Lowensda and rubecula 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 True, but it's certainly a factor along with desperation for change from disenchanted people It's their own doing. The politicians have created that scenario for themselves, and now they're seeing what happens when they neglect their duties. holystove, Matt, Lowensda and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Five years ago, if you had asked a betting shop for the odds on Trump being a future president of the USA, I reckon you would have got odds of maybe 10,000 / 1. Mind bogglingly disastrous result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 It's good to be a bookie at the moment I'd imagine How many people bet on a Clinton victory? something like 80% Hahaha! Silly people. Also a good moment to be an unborn baby I'd imagine. Hopefully a number more will survive in the coming years than if Clinton were president. Never forget the important things. It's easy to make Trump look like a disaster, but it's genuinely not as bad as he's made out to be. Presidents aren't as powerful as they're sometimes said to be. The USA can be glad about this result. Lots and lots of salty comments around the internet, but that's of course a direct result of the high degree of polarization. People think it's a disaster. Nah it's not. Matt, Sibdane, Chach and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Matt and Mirallas 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 It's their own doing. The politicians have created that scenario for themselves, and now they're seeing what happens when they neglect their duties. Yeah, but it's still going to be the people that suffer. Either way, this doesn't look good at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 It's good to be a bookie at the moment I'd imagine How many people bet on a Clinton victory? something like 80% Hahaha! Silly people. Also a good moment to be an unborn baby I'd imagine. Hopefully a number more will survive in the coming years than if Clinton were president. Never forget the important things. It's easy to make Trump look like a disaster, but it's genuinely not as bad as he's made out to be. Presidents aren't as powerful as they're sometimes said to be. The USA can be glad about this result. Lots and lots of salty comments around the internet, but that's of course a direct result of the high degree of polarization. People think it's a disaster. Nah it's not. I've been here a long time and I don't think I've ever read a more ridiculous post in all these years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I've been here a long time and I don't think I've ever read a more ridiculous post in all these years. Not sure what you're referring to, but I'm talking about the biggest hidden genocide in the world. Chach, MikeO, Sibdane and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Not sure what you're referring to, but I'm talking about the biggest hidden genocide in the world. Honestly, I'm speechless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) Honestly, I'm speechless. This is the most poignant thing about all this. Looks like European news reporters have succesfully diverted your attention to trivial things and convinced you to feel strongly about it. Those downvotes on my post are shocking. Edited November 9, 2016 by Mirallas Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 This is the most poignant thing about all this. Looks like European news reporters have succesfully diverted your attention to trivial things and convinced you to feel strongly about it. Those downvotes on my post are shocking. I'm all ears - what is it you are talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Was what I expected. Just saw a stat from a journo, the two lowest wage brackets voted for Hillary. Not sure how accurate that is though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirallas Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I'm all ears - what is it you are talking about? I just wanted to point out that if a European thinks Trump isn't a worse alternative than Clinton, that it rather shows independent thinking rather than blind copy-pasting of newspaper/tv reporting. But I hope that what I express here, an opinion that doesn't seem popular, doesn't affect the facet through which my EFC-related posts would be viewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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